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We are not protesting that we got HL2 removed from us or anything of the sorts, but we are protesting that valve took software which we legally owned, please understand this.
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Nov 2004 03:03 Post subject: |
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It's your own fucking fault ffs. What did you expect?
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Nov 2004 03:05 Post subject: |
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I do.
But I see it this way, you stole something from Valve and they compensate their loss by taking something away from you. Is that legal? Probably not. Can you go and sue them based on the fact that you stole something from them? Certainly not. So I'd say tough luck for you. And I also think you deserve it and have no right to complain (no offense intended). Did you really think you could fool an authentification platform like steam? I didn't think for a moment that Valve could be cheated that easily.
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Nov 2004 03:06 Post subject: |
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Like I said before dryan. Imagine yourself going into best buy. You steal something. (yes this is wrong) Now that you have stolen that item, and best buy did catch you and punish you by the way, they now procede to come into your house, and take away all the stuff which you have legally purchased from them (which is a lot of things to).
Tell me, does that sound right, in any way shape or form?
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Nov 2004 03:08 Post subject: |
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It does not. I never disputed that, but you knew the risk and still chose to try it.
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Nov 2004 03:09 Post subject: |
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| bnf wrote: | I do.
But I see it this way, you stole something from Valve and they compensate their loss by taking something away from you. Is that legal? Probably not. Can you go and sue them based on the fact that you stole something from them? Certainly not. So I'd say tough luck for you. And I also think you deserve it and have no right to complain (no offense intended). Did you really think you could fool an authentification platform like steam? I didn't think for a moment that Valve could be cheated that easily. |
I would have been more happy if valve sent me mail saying they want 50 dollars for their HL2, or else. At least then It is
A.) More appropriote of a punishment
B.) Not taking something which I legally owned (Yes, I do realize I stole their game as well, but please refer to my best buy statement)
Might I also mention that if valve did that, I would be scared shitless, and probally never do warez ever again.
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Nov 2004 03:12 Post subject: |
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That's a stupid comparison. Firstly, if you stole from BestBuy you would know that they have no way of taking all the other stuff back. Secondly, when you buy from Steam you know that it is the distribution method for all of Valve's games. To pirate HL2 and then complain because they took away your other games is rediculous. You should have either used another account to try the shit which got you banned or bought HL2. You did neither and it was obvious what could happen therefore you deserve everything you get.
Valve probably know that this will happen to a few people but why should they care when you have stolen their software.
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Nov 2004 03:16 Post subject: |
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| Mchart wrote: | | bnf wrote: | I do.
But I see it this way, you stole something from Valve and they compensate their loss by taking something away from you. Is that legal? Probably not. Can you go and sue them based on the fact that you stole something from them? Certainly not. So I'd say tough luck for you. And I also think you deserve it and have no right to complain (no offense intended). Did you really think you could fool an authentification platform like steam? I didn't think for a moment that Valve could be cheated that easily. |
I would have been more happy if valve sent me mail saying they want 50 dollars for their HL2, or else. At least then It is
A.) More appropriote of a punishment
B.) Not taking something which I legally owned (Yes, I do realize I stole their game as well, but please refer to my best buy statement)
Might I also mention that if valve did that, I would be scared shitless, and probally never do warez ever again. |
What is easier/cheaper? To send out an email asking for $50 from people who have been banned and perhaps get about 1% of people buying the game which results in fuck all cash for them or simply run some script which bans everyone who has done it.
I know which I would choose. They don't give a toss about you because you've pirated their software and that's a position you've put yourself in.
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Nov 2004 03:16 Post subject: |
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I see what your saying, but there is no way I will ever buy another valve product ever again.
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Nov 2004 03:17 Post subject: |
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| dryan wrote: | | Mchart wrote: | | bnf wrote: | I do.
But I see it this way, you stole something from Valve and they compensate their loss by taking something away from you. Is that legal? Probably not. Can you go and sue them based on the fact that you stole something from them? Certainly not. So I'd say tough luck for you. And I also think you deserve it and have no right to complain (no offense intended). Did you really think you could fool an authentification platform like steam? I didn't think for a moment that Valve could be cheated that easily. |
I would have been more happy if valve sent me mail saying they want 50 dollars for their HL2, or else. At least then It is
A.) More appropriote of a punishment
B.) Not taking something which I legally owned (Yes, I do realize I stole their game as well, but please refer to my best buy statement)
Might I also mention that if valve did that, I would be scared shitless, and probally never do warez ever again. |
What is easier/cheaper? To send out an email asking for $50 from people who have been banned and perhaps get about 1% of people buying the game which results in fuck all cash for them or simply run some script which bans everyone who has done it.
I know which I would choose. They don't give a toss about you because you've pirated their software and that's a position you've put yourself in. |
Ahh, the mind of "THE MAN"
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Nov 2004 03:19 Post subject: |
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They're probably hoping the other 19,999 people who were banned are saying the same thing.
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Nov 2004 03:21 Post subject: |
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| Injurious wrote: |
-Simple fact is you're here on a site dedicated to piracy, don't pretend you're here because you searched for a forum dedicated to games, it's silly and nobody believes you anyway- As if you knew me. And that’s what makes us different! You and I both know nothing about each other and yet you have this mental image of me! |
| Injurious wrote: | | I’m sure you committed more online crimes violating copyright laws this week than I have done this whole year. |
You just owned yourself. That second quote shows what you assume of me and yet you say you don't have a mental image of me? You pissed me off by accusing me of that just like I pissed you off. Guess there's no difference after all.
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Nov 2004 03:24 Post subject: |
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| dryan wrote: | That's a stupid comparison. Firstly, if you stole from BestBuy you would know that they have no way of taking all the other stuff back. Secondly, when you buy from Steam you know that it is the distribution method for all of Valve's games. To pirate HL2 and then complain because they took away your other games is rediculous. You should have either used another account to try the shit which got you banned or bought HL2. You did neither and it was obvious what could happen therefore you deserve everything you get.
Valve probably know that this will happen to a few people but why should they care when you have stolen their software. |
Best case scenario. A wee tyke named Billy Bob buys hl, bs, of, hl2 but he doesn't have cs-cz so he tries the fake thing to see if it'll work. After four tries it doesn't work so he forces his daddy to buy him cs-cz. Now his account is blocked. Why? He didn't steal, he tried to steal. Valve doesn't know who stole what. All they know is that a person attempted in stealing it. In stealing something. And just because their account showed up using a fake cdkey/ccredit card number several times then they block the account. They can’t see who stole what. Would take a lot of work. They simply banned those who tried using several of the illegal methods in getting their game. Now there could be at least 35% of Billy Bob’s out there who just tried doing it to see if it would work. Valve doesn’t care because they don’t know.
Valve made some money and some people lost their money. Who cares? people. Who doesn't care? valve. Who's going to do anything? nobody.
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Nov 2004 03:25 Post subject: |
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| dryan wrote: | | it was obvious what could happen therefore you deserve everything you get |
It was obvious what could happen?
Is it just me, or is the NFOrce community ceasing to be intelligent people, and once again splitting up into the angry and the gloating?! Neither of those does much good.
If you want to bitch about your Steam account being revoked, there's the bitching forum, there's Valve's forums, and there's elsewhere. Pick one, and go there.
If you want to gloat because the one game you legally bought in your life turned out to be the one game you were in danger of somehow being punished for pirating, for fucks' sake... get over it.
The constructive types of posts I could see being put here:
- Instructions for removing ban/restoring account
- Instructions/link to instructions on getting online access to your LEGALLY bought games.
- Instructions for not getting caught
- Anything else that is not either bitching or flaming
This bullshit is seriously unlike NFOrce peeps. Take it to slashdot. |
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Nov 2004 03:28 Post subject: |
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Why should Valve care about people who attempt to pirate their games?
I download games all the time but I know that if the companies knew what I was doing they wouldn't give a fuck about me or my cash and would do everything they could to stop me doing it again.
I'm afraid that any sort of consumer rights go out of the window when you attempt to pirate something. This seems pretty obvious to me so how can people complain?
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Nov 2004 03:32 Post subject: |
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To bad I cant post in valve's forums, because for some strange reason, my forum account does not have that right.
BTW My friend who has 2 steam accounts, both which had legit games on them, the one that he tried HL2 was of course banned, but his other one, he got an email from steam that said it was somehow lost in a database update. Wow.
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Nov 2004 03:32 Post subject: |
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That certainly was unexpected.
But looking at this thread, I'd say Valve won.
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Nov 2004 03:34 Post subject: |
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| bnf wrote: | That certainly was unexpected.
But looking at this thread, I'd say Valve won. |
No, I still have HL2, MUAHAHAHAH!
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Nov 2004 03:34 Post subject: |
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[quote="dryan"]Why should Valve care about people who attempt to pirate their games?
You must mean something other than what that statement means on face value - cause it's just silly.
I am running both HL2 Emporio, and CounterStirke Source. As i do plan on buying the thing at some stage - can anyone please tell me what it is that leads to this ban? So I can either uninstall the pirate version or (preferably) just avoid getting caught.
Cheers
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Nov 2004 03:36 Post subject: |
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[quote="speed999"] | dryan wrote: | Why should Valve care about people who attempt to pirate their games?
You must mean something other than what that statement means on face value - cause it's just silly.
I am running both HL2 Emporio, and CounterStirke Source. As i do plan on buying the thing at some stage - can anyone please tell me what it is that leads to this ban? So I can either uninstall the pirate version or (preferably) just avoid getting caught.
Cheers |
They say its from people that entered those bad CDkeys, and used the trick that tricked steam into thinking you owned HL2, so then you could unlock the HL2 files, But my friend didnt do that, he just has the emporio proper version. Im guessing steam is either checking registry data, or scanning the hard drive or something.
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Nov 2004 03:36 Post subject: |
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I'd say delete your steam entirely and make a new steam account before you install any legal steam games.
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Nov 2004 03:36 Post subject: |
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| Accelleron wrote: | | dryan wrote: | | it was obvious what could happen therefore you deserve everything you get |
It was obvious what could happen?
Is it just me, or is the NFOrce community ceasing to be intelligent people, and once again splitting up into the angry and the gloating?! Neither of those does much good.
If you want to bitch about your Steam account being revoked, there's the bitching forum, there's Valve's forums, and there's elsewhere. Pick one, and go there.
If you want to gloat because the one game you legally bought in your life turned out to be the one game you were in danger of somehow being punished for pirating, for fucks' sake... get over it.
The constructive types of posts I could see being put here:
- Instructions for removing ban/restoring account
- Instructions/link to instructions on getting online access to your LEGALLY bought games.
- Instructions for not getting caught
- Anything else that is not either bitching or flaming
This bullshit is seriously unlike NFOrce peeps. Take it to slashdot. |
It seems painfully obvious that if you attempt to "trick" the steam authentication servers you run a high risk that you might get banned. If fucking Ponygirl 2 had some sort of remote authentication thing that could be tricked I would be saying the same thing. The fact that I bought HL2 is irrelevant.
As for the rest of your post, this is a DISCUSSION forum, it is for DISCUSSING things. Whether or not Valve were right to ban users who attempted to pirate their games seems an incredibly relevant topic for discussion in this thread/forum!
Sometimes people disagree - don't get so upset.
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Nov 2004 03:40 Post subject: |
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| Mchart wrote: | | bnf wrote: | That certainly was unexpected.
But looking at this thread, I'd say Valve won. |
No, I still have HL2, MUAHAHAHAH! |
I just heard Gabe took time out from counting his millions to shed a tear for your lost $50!
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Nov 2004 03:42 Post subject: |
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I bet that cocksucker sucks his own dick.
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Nov 2004 03:46 Post subject: |
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You call that giant llama of his, his wife?
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Nov 2004 03:48 Post subject: |
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At least he has some one to whack him off and to give him occasional blow jobs. Ok...
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Nov 2004 03:50 Post subject: |
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How do we know if gabe is even real? He might be a steaming pile of shit, that some other dude at valve made just to take the spotlight off everyone else.
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you're on this forum! You’re a god damn pirate! Stop trying to sound civilized by saying you buy things! I buy things :O just last year I bought a condom! Did I use it? Nooo! I made a duplicate copy of it and stored it on my hard drive.
. Come on. I said stop it. There's nothing left to say. We could continue arguing but where would that lead? Huh. But I’m happy that you’re taking your time in reading my posts. That shows great depth of respect. And I really appreciate it. Even though we both share different views upon the topic at hand you still show respect. I’m flattered. Well just for that I give up. You won. 
