I'm a communist. Money means almost nothing to me. As long as i have a decent computer, a fast connection, and a giganews account, i'm all good. Everything else i can live without.
I am married to a woman who actually lived under communism. NO THANKS.
Go move to China where the fast internet connections and giganews accounts flow like honey. Or perhaps North Korea. How you going to have that giganews account without money? And I am sure a communistic government will insure all residence will have highspeed internet connections, the latest computers and gaming consoles to keep the populace happy. How about music... do you like music? I am sure a communistic society will let you listen and watch anything and everything you want to watch.
Its a company's choice if they wish to sell or not. Don't blame EA. Blame the people selling their companys (and I can't much blame them). Hell, give me 26 billion dollars and i'll go hire a team and make all the dambned games I want to shitty or not.
Your wife lived under a dictatorship which made itself to follow the ideals of communism, there hasnt been nor ever will a communist rule in this world simply because its agaisnt human principles.
Business 101 is the rule of supply and demand in a free society
With the demand comming first then competition to supply that demand
People always want better, faster, newer, latest technolgy
Try to sell something to a person and convience them they need it at the same time
Thats a hard sell
Take it from me I sell life insurance
Even if we end up buying Take Two it wouldn't change a thing for the gamers just like it did for Vivendi/Blizz buying Activision.
Publisher-wise this would mean more great games from EA.
Developer-wise this would mean tools and resources sharing.
Interfering with the company's internal life doesn't happen at that level anymore.
BioWare is still doing whatever they want. We didn't even get Mass Effect for free or at a discount.
These buyouts are solely based on the publishing side of things. Just like EA did with Valve.
John Riccitiello is making alot of positive changes within EA and it's clear that he is taking those changes from the gamers' feedback.
We know you all love to hate on us because the publishing side of EA is so big and so making more money than you but take a second and have a look at us the developers. We're people like you and we started just like you by playing games. I respect all other developers be it from small companies or huge companies since we all share the same passion which is to make games for all of our enjoyment. EA buying TakeTwo would bring the very nice benefit of sharing knowledge and resources in between the studios and this would be helpful on both ways since EA and TakeTwo would improve their games like that.
On a final note; good comment as usual Epsilon, Serben you bore me with your lack of life experience and Cacaro you don't know shit.
We know you all love to hate on us because the publishing side of EA is so big and so making more money than you
I only hate EA because all they products are so buggy and unfinished , EA does the same crap like Ubisoft - milks down the known and successful francaise (moh 5 anyone) and when someone finds a bug they BAN the developers from they forum or BAN you for saying they game has bugs , furthermore EA and patches what patches maybe payed patches called BOOSTER PACKS (battlefield anyone) or adding no-life ADDONS patches (sims) ...
the third thing that bugs me allot in EA is they creativity , aheemmm what creativity they only can assimilate other companies that have or had creativity after they sold they soul
so as you see the hate is not directed at they moneyz but at they shitty customer support and assimilation tactics
I'm a communist. Money means almost nothing to me. As long as i have a decent computer, a fast connection, and a giganews account, i'm all good. Everything else i can live without.
I am married to a woman who actually lived under communism. NO THANKS.
Go move to China where the fast internet connections and giganews accounts flow like honey. Or perhaps North Korea. How you going to have that giganews account without money? And I am sure a communistic government will insure all residence will have highspeed internet connections, the latest computers and gaming consoles to keep the populace happy. How about music... do you like music? I am sure a communistic society will let you listen and watch anything and everything you want to watch.
Its a company's choice if they wish to sell or not. Don't blame EA. Blame the people selling their companys (and I can't much blame them). Hell, give me 26 billion dollars and i'll go hire a team and make all the dambned games I want to shitty or not.
I love capitalism.
you do realize even countries like Canada has more socialistic values than China right? China is only communist in name, but not in action. Its "Capitalism with communist values" is only a cover for its capitalistic policies that is geared to favour China than other countries.
BlueSkyz; Unfinished products was before Riccitiello.
Ubisoft; Assassin's Creed far from completed; out anyway.
EA: Army of Two not completed; delayed.
Milking successful franchise is a sure way to make money and the second, you, gamer stop buying the franchise they stop developing the games. If everyone would stop buying Madden, EA would stop developing Madden. In the meantime that money generated from those fat cows is invested in development with new core teams such as Blueprint and others where they only work on new game concepts and new types of IPs developing original and amazing games such as the upcoming Spore. I get paid to develop new ideas and games and all other developers get paid and creating paid downloadable content is a good way to generate money along with the fat cows it helps keep the studios above water.
I've never heard of that banning thing you're talking about.
You're hating on the publishing side of EA and that's totally different and unrelated to the developers.
As for the creativity you are wrong; there are amazing games coming from EA and we already have skate., C&C, Spore, Need for Speed, Army of Two, Battlefield 2, Burnout Paradise, Battlefield: Bad Company, the upcoming Mass Effect for PC, etc etc.
Finally, I have no intent on convincing anyone since it's easier to follow the general mass and hate on EA.
LanceBullet, that's about it. They're only buying studios because the profit generated from the best-selling games is good and not to change anything within said studios.
I've never heard of that banning thing you're talking about.
they do it all the time
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As for the creativity you are wrong; there are amazing games coming from EA and we already have skate.(which is buggy , boring game), C&C (great game created by Westwood pulled into dirt by EA), Spore (lolol where maybe in the delayed section), Need for Speed (only porsche was good the other where Teen crap ), Army of Two, Battlefield 2 (you mean "you has got booster packs" ), Burnout Paradise, Battlefield: Bad Company, the upcoming Mass Effect for PC (made BY BIOWARE before EA snatched they soul), etc etc.
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LanceBullet, that's about it. They're only buying studios because the profit generated from the best-selling games is good and not to change anything within said studios.
As for the creativity you are wrong; there are amazing games coming from EA and we already have skate., C&C, Spore, Need for Speed, Army of Two, Battlefield 2, Burnout Paradise, Battlefield: Bad Company, the upcoming Mass Effect for PC, etc etc.
Finally, I have no intent on convincing anyone since it's easier to follow the general mass and hate on EA.
Fair play, you're right that EA now have some fantastic teams with a lot of talent, but the reputation for cynically cashing in on the loyalty of their customers is also very well earned.....
In the course of a single year we get a soccer game that focuses on the domestic premier league, then in the summer, a full six months later, we get the same game with different logos and and textures for the World Cup licensed games.....
That's taking the piss out of customer loyalty......
It's unfortunate that all dev teams get tarred with the same brush, but that's an unavoidable consequence.
I think it's actually ironic, that by purchasing great dev companies and teams they may be degrading the respective brands?
BlueSkyz they haven't done it to me and I've taken the leisure of chatting with Ao2 fans on the EA forums. You are also simply blinded by the fact that EA is big so whatever comes out you will not like it but that is only your personal taste in game which has nothing to do with the current discussion. It's not because you don't like it that it's a crappy game. Games released by small companies are buggy and boring as well, the only difference is that they have less funds available in quantity of games. They also have less studios around the world which also means less games released by them. Even if Spore is delayed again it doesn't mean it's a bad game so that's quite pointless.
Westwood did release C&C Renegade and Earth & Beyond before being bought out by EA and these two games really did suck so EA didn't change shit. Remnants of Westwood also reformed in to Petroglyph which released Universe at War and Star Wars Empire at War two games that weren't so good as well.
Need For Speed Porsche Unleashed was by EA and was good so your point doesn't hold here as well.
EA didn't snatched BioWare's souls you idiot. They are free to do as they wish as long as they keep generating money and Mass Effect is making sure of that.
All in all you're just uninformed and making pointless comments solely based on your taste of games and poor unreliable internet facts.
LeoNathan I couldn't agree more.
LanceBullet, that will always happen. They day Microsoft buys a new company people will start hating on that new company and on Microsoft saying their softwares sucks while posting this using Windows then going back to their Xbox360. It's always like that and always will be. EA does have some pretty crappy games such as alot of the sports games and did some stupid stuff marketting wise but this is slowly changing towards listening more to the gamers and developing more of what they want.
EA didn't snatched BioWare's souls you idiot. They are free to do as they wish as long as they keep generating money and Mass Effect is making sure of that.
that gave me a laugh , oh hmmm yeah lets go back to the topic ...didn't EA wanted to BUY ROCKSTAR just for GTAIV just to have the full control of the franchise ...
so what now , the next game will not create the income and they will be closed (but as we know Mass Effect is a trilogy so they will generate some income to EA for the next 4-6 years after this they will be turned into a MMO firm)... thats selling your soul mate , better to be the master of his own will then a puppet
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Need For Speed Porsche Unleashed was by EA and was good so your point doesn't hold here as well.
The old and the new EA are two different companies , the old one cared , the new one brings the quantity but not the quality
and by Westwood (old company) you mean the EA controlled Westwood Pacific(new one created in 98 after EA bought them ) ,
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Games released by small companies are buggy and boring as well, the only difference is that they have less funds available in quantity of games. They also have less studios around the world which also means less games released by them.
from the marketing point of view your theory is correct when it gets into the third faze it needs a new product to keep the company alive , the more studios they have , the more games they can make , flooding the market and keeping a constant flow of cash income {adding the EA factor} more doesn't mean better , by better i mean quality ... you can all ways rant that they will save some money/staff/resources to create/buy the next a cash cow
and if i may ask , you are developer/creative persona/artist/programmer for EA ? or marketing guy that snoops the net if Army of two is IN
I am a developer on the Ao2 team and marketting wouldn't be able to post on NFOrce, it's something beyond their knowledge since it does not generate any money immediately.
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Even tho they didnt accept the offer, so now EA really needs to boost the offer again...
