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Posted: Thu, 29th Nov 2007 12:54 Post subject: PC and Consoles |
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Cedge wrote: | See, this is what pisses me off. You don't just have your personal preference for PC games. You think you're smarter than people who enjoy console games. That's just disgusting. |
Wow so you get pissed by virtual people. That says alot about you. I didnt say that because i play PC games i am smarter then console users. I said that people who KNOW how use their PC to its full extent are much smarter then console users. You actually belive that pearson who works with databases is stupid? Or working with CAD?
Cedge wrote: | So, only software and hardware "pros" (and please, the average PC hardware "pro" is a stupid little boy who's basic understanding is more expensive = better) can enjoy videogames to their fullest? Being a computer engineer is a prerequisite for enjoying PC videogames? Wow, you make it sound better all the time. |
Person who knows about hardware doesnt think that more expensive is better. Simply because thats not true. Do i sense prejudice here? O yes i do. Youre trying to defend something with lame points is truly remarkable. I never said anything about computer engineers. Learn to read maybe?
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People who like to pop in a game and have it work instantly don't enjoy games as much as you, eh? Fascinating. Does the fact that it's much easier to get modern Windows games installed and running than it was to get old DOS games working make these newer games less fun for you, because they're easy to use? Hmm? |
Wtf you talking about? Do you even know how to use DOS? How in hell is harder to get game running in DOS then its in Windows? Maybe for someone with low intelect that might be true but for rest its same or even faster in DOS. It really depends on youre typing speed. I never said anything about how speed in starting game makes difference in enjoyment. I said that console games are dumbed down button masers with no depth or complexity. People do enjoy them and thats not the point. Point is that all games are getting shallow.
Cedge wrote: | Again, you seem to have a fetish for complexity in all things. It doesn't necessarily make things better. |
FYI some people like to use their brain to achive something. Some people dont like for someone to hold their hand and walk them through the game. This people play games on PC. Oh and like i said i dont use PC only for gaming. In fact i play 1h a day MAX. I use it for encoding,capping, doing flash for my amusement,a couple of y ago i used it for music making,watching HD,burning stuff,ETC. So you see because YOU dont know how to use it then it must mean that rest of use it only for gaming.
Any more points you wanna make?
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Posted: Thu, 29th Nov 2007 13:17 Post subject: |
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all bollocks from both of you.
consoles win! from my perspective its, 300quid hardware which is easily hackable (in the case of the 360) and game downloads which require no cracks or downloads, i dont need to configure anything.
i can use a pc... and a mac, but in my opinion they are not gaming platforms anymore.
obviously MHO and i dont care what other people think, pc vs console war is like two retarded kids fighting over a wheel chair
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Posted: Thu, 29th Nov 2007 13:19 Post subject: |
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just let it rest man lol. You won't wanna end up with a ban.
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Posted: Thu, 29th Nov 2007 13:59 Post subject: |
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watergem wrote: | just let it rest man lol. You won't wanna end up with a ban. |
Why should i be banned? Im not the one that came in PC section and told that all PC users are stupid and idiots. He did that. And since that came from pearson ,that finds ball on the floor rolling and collecting boxes or shooting kitchen with zapper innovating, well its rather funny.
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Posted: Thu, 29th Nov 2007 14:49 Post subject: |
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He's not even gonna reply to this thread..
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Posted: Thu, 29th Nov 2007 14:57 Post subject: |
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lul at this thread
just stick to your own shit and be done with it
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Posted: Thu, 29th Nov 2007 16:37 Post subject: |
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I have a hard time getting into console games. Maybe it is because my two favourite genres, FPS and RTS, are absolute shit on consoles.
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Posted: Thu, 29th Nov 2007 21:25 Post subject: |
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nouseforaname wrote: | I have a hard time getting into console games. Maybe it is because my two favourite genres, FPS and RTS, are absolute shit on consoles. |
same here
and I like being about to play say C&C while watching tv. With the console, you have to dedicate all your attention to one thing and it gets boring more quickly, for me anyway.
Still, I do like a good console geame
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Posted: Thu, 29th Nov 2007 22:00 Post subject: |
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So what conclusion have we come to after this debate?
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Posted: Thu, 29th Nov 2007 22:02 Post subject: |
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No conclusion atm. But at least there is thread that future crap can go to. Its nice dont you think?
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Posted: Thu, 29th Nov 2007 22:12 Post subject: |
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I conclude PC is the better gaming platform (read sig).
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Well I dont really know where those quotes came from but this is hardly about PC vs console, more like Nakitu vs Cedge, and Cedge has yet to see the thread I imagine. Some of his points are valid though, like waiting for installs, and I agree DOS was much harder then windows installing and running games.
EMS, XMS, Conventional memory. I remember trying to get a game to run, required like 630 conventional, 10 megs EMS, 10 XMS, and cdrom, sound, mouse, and video drivers. Lotsa config.sys and autoexec.bat editing goes into that, and plenty of games in the later stages of dos required it. The games are better I agree, and I also find it very hard to enjoy most console games, but there is a lot of technical overhead that goes into getting them to run.
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So, someone's intelligence is measured in computer literacy now? Not everyone cares about computers, you know?
I enjoy the best of both worlds, RPG (except for Mass Effect), RTS and FPS are all on the PC.
If you're going out for a weekend you can always take a console and that's it. Instant action! I like to sit on the couch with my friends and play Gears in Co-op, or a 2vs2 PES match. That's the main advantage of the console, as I see it.
The price is another good reason... The PC will ALWAYS have superior hardware IF you have the money for it.
Finally, there's also the time factor. Some people just want to sit down and play without loosing time with installs, configurations, tweaks, cracks, etc. If a person has one spare hour in a day, he probably prefers to just start the console and play instead of loosing 1 hour preparing a game to play the next day.
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Posted: Fri, 30th Nov 2007 00:36 Post subject: Re: PC and Consoles |
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Nakitu wrote: | I said that people who KNOW how use their PC to its full extent are much smarter then console users. |
That's stupid to say, and it's a gross generalization. There could be a quantum physicist out there who enjoys playing casual Wii games, but it's only an avid PC user.
And how do you account for both people who are genuine PC experts, who play as much on consoles as they do PC? Again, your generalization is bullshit.
Quote: | Wtf you talking about? Do you even know how to use DOS? How in hell is harder to get game running in DOS then its in Windows? |
You clearly don't remember the days of having to make custom floppy DOS bootdisks with different EMS and XMS memory configurations and whatnot for different games.
Or are you going to tell me that doing that for many games back in the day is actually easier than installing Windows?
Quote: | FYI some people like to use their brain to achive something. Some people dont like for someone to hold their hand and walk them through the game. This people play games on PC. |
More bullshit generalizations and stereotypes.
Quote: | Oh and like i said i dont use PC only for gaming. In fact i play 1h a day MAX. I use it for encoding,capping, doing flash for my amusement,a couple of y ago i used it for music making,watching HD,burning stuff,ETC. So you see because YOU dont know how to use it then it must mean that rest of use it only for gaming. |
Oh, wow. You are clearly a genius, and a world-class computer systems engineer. You capture and encode video, make things in Flash (aka, a stupid children's toy), and even watch video files. Truly incredible.
Look, I know a thing or two about computers. I grew up playing with stacks of them we had around the house. My father is one of the top-ranked IT engineers in the world, according to rankings by the IEEE, and I learned so much from him. Through my dad's work, I got to see massive million-dollar government-use IBM mainframes, truly amazing machines. Wrote my first BASIC progs (simple data input, sorting, and storage apps, and arcade game clones) on a TI-99 when I was around 7 or 8. Grew up using OS/2, one of the greatest OSes ever designed. Started web design around 12. Et cetera, et cetera. Never bought a prefab PC in my life; every single one custom built, from the time I was a child. Nowadays I have my whole home networked, integrated, and automated, with all the most modern media convergence and whatnot, all working cross-OS, all work done by myself. I'm not a professional programmer now, but I'd call myself, ahem, a pretty advanced PC user.
And yet, I play more console games than I do PC games. Hmmmm...guess that kills your stupid assumption that people only use consoles because they aren't expert computer users.
It just so happens that many of the games I find most fun are on consoles. I also enjoy lots of games like X3: Reunion, Homeworld, Galactic Civilizations, Civ, SimCity, SimTower, UT, Doom (I play Skulltag MP with tons of custom WADs), Age of Wonders, yadda yadda yadda. I own some 400 PC games legit retail, alongside about 600 console and handheld games.
I live with my wife-to-be, and especially with her now around to play games with me, we now find simpler, faster, funner MP games on consoles (WarioWare, Wii Sports, etc) to be more fufilling than sitting down and plunking 3 hours at a time into a 4X strategy game. It's just more fun and exciting now.
Again, you need to get over your stupid, blind prejudices and bullshit generalizations about gaming populations. They only make you look like a jackass to those of us without eyes clouded by bias about which systems are best.
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Posted: Fri, 30th Nov 2007 00:44 Post subject: |
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consoles are a much more streamlined entertainment experience these days than pc games.
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Posted: Fri, 30th Nov 2007 01:07 Post subject: Re: PC and Consoles |
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Cedge wrote: | Nakitu wrote: | I said that people who KNOW how use their PC to its full extent are much smarter then console users. |
That's stupid to say, and it's a gross generalization. There could be a quantum physicist out there who enjoys playing casual Wii games, but it's only an avid PC user.
And how do you account for both people who are genuine PC experts, who play as much on consoles as they do PC? Again, your generalization is bullshit |
Quantum physicist uses PC.
Cedge wrote: | Nakitu wrote: | Wtf you talking about? Do you even know how to use DOS? How in hell is harder to get game running in DOS then its in Windows? |
You clearly don't remember the days of having to make custom floppy DOS bootdisks with different EMS and XMS memory configurations and whatnot for different games.
Or are you going to tell me that doing that for many games back in the day is actually easier than installing Windows? |
Wow so on DOS there were only floppys? No cds? Dos didnt have registry errors,errors with updates,problems with sp, 2000 drivers and all other stuff that can make youre pc unusable. I never had any problems with dos and i had all games running in no time.
Cedge wrote: | Nakitu wrote: | FYI some people like to use their brain to achive something. Some people dont like for someone to hold their hand and walk them through the game. This people play games on PC. |
More bullshit generalizations and stereotypes. |
Name five complex games. Console only.
Cedge wrote: | Nakitu wrote: | Oh and like i said i dont use PC only for gaming. In fact i play 1h a day MAX. I use it for encoding,capping, doing flash for my amusement,a couple of y ago i used it for music making,watching HD,burning stuff,ETC. So you see because YOU dont know how to use it then it must mean that rest of use it only for gaming. |
Oh, wow. You are clearly a genius, and a world-class computer systems engineer. You capture and encode video, make things in Flash (aka, a stupid children's toy), and even watch video files. Truly incredible. |
Wow you have no idea what you are talking about. Go get HD source and rip it. Plz its so easy. Show me i wanna see. Oh you have knowledge about Flash? Its childrens toy. Plz do some scripts for me.Like i said i can do more shit with pc then you with youre console.
Cedge wrote: | Look, I know a thing or two about computers. I grew up playing with stacks of them we had around the house. My father is one of the top-ranked IT engineers in the world, according to rankings by the IEEE, and I learned so much from him. Through my dad's work, I got to see massive million-dollar government-use IBM mainframes, truly amazing machines. Wrote my first BASIC progs (simple data input, sorting, and storage apps, and arcade game clones) on a TI-99 when I was around 7 or 8. Grew up using OS/2, one of the greatest OSes ever designed. Started web design around 12. Et cetera, et cetera. Never bought a prefab PC in my life; every single one custom built, from the time I was a child. Nowadays I have my whole home networked, integrated, and automated, with all the most modern media convergence and whatnot, all working cross-OS, all work done by myself. I'm not a professional programmer now, but I'd call myself, ahem, a pretty advanced PC user. |
Wow you do all that and have the time to be on Nforce. Wow. How is that possible? You are not lying are you? O shit i forgot i do databases for CIA. My bad
Cedge wrote: | And yet, I play more console games than I do PC games. Hmmmm...guess that kills your stupid assumption that people only use consoles because they aren't expert computer users.
It just so happens that many of the games I find most fun are on consoles. I also enjoy lots of games like X3: Reunion, Homeworld, Galactic Civilizations, Civ, SimCity, SimTower, UT, Doom (I play Skulltag MP with tons of custom WADs), Age of Wonders, yadda yadda yadda. I own some 400 PC games legit retail, alongside about 600 console and handheld games.
I live with my wife-to-be, and especially with her now around to play games with me, we now find simpler, faster, funner MP games on consoles (WarioWare, Wii Sports, etc) to be more fufilling than sitting down and plunking 3 hours at a time into a 4X strategy game. It's just more fun and exciting now.
Again, you need to get over your stupid, blind prejudices and bullshit generalizations about gaming populations. They only make you look like a jackass to those of us without eyes clouded by bias about which systems are best. |
No this only shows how you are not capable to understand complex games. I dont give a shit how many games you name. Its the internet. You find game that has ball rolling on floor innovation. Thats enough for me.
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Posted: Fri, 30th Nov 2007 04:36 Post subject: Re: PC and Consoles |
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Nakitu wrote: | Quantum physicist uses PC.  |
But isn't necessarily a PC expert, on the level that you or I might be.
Again, thinking that PC gamers are somehow smarter overall that console gamers is absolutely insane. Feeling that was is really not that dissimilar to sexism or racism. It's a horrible, stupid preconceived notion.
Nakitu wrote: | Wow so on DOS there were only floppys? No cds? Dos didnt have registry errors,errors with updates,problems with sp, 2000 drivers and all other stuff that can make youre pc unusable. I never had any problems with dos and i had all games running in no time. |
Uh, don't put words in my mouth. Again, ask anyone who remembers the time period: A lot of later DOS games gave users headaches over getting memory configured correctly, etc. And I never said Windows is error-free. I'm just saying that DOS often required some serious effort to get games working perfectly in.
Quote: | Name five complex games. Console only. |
It doesn't matter what games I name, because you'll just brush them off and say "No way, Civ is more complex." You're too fucking stubborn to see any other possibility.
Quote: | Wow you have no idea what you are talking about. Go get HD source and rip it. Plz its so easy. Show me i wanna see. Oh you have knowledge about Flash? Its childrens toy. Plz do some scripts for me.Like i said i can do more shit with pc then you with youre console. |
What do you mean "HD source"? You mean HD-DVDs or Blu-Ray discs? Please. Anyone can do that. DVDFab and AnyDVD do it practically automatically.
This debate was never about whether consoles or PCs are more versatile (of course, PCs are). This is about whether PC games are somehow automatically "better" by the simple virtue that they are PC games, which, I'm sorry, they're not.
Quote: | Wow you do all that and have the time to be on Nforce. Wow. How is that possible? You are not lying are you? O shit i forgot i do databases for CIA. My bad |
Wow, way to not pay attention to what I was saying. I was listing things that I did growing up during my childhood, not that I do everyday. You seemed to want proof that I'm not some moron who just started casually using PCs, and I gave you a little of my background.
Try again, and make a real response this time. Quit copping out because you don't have shit worth saying. If you don't have shit worth saying, be a man and admit it. You're trying to dodge the points I'm making, and I'm sorry, but acting like that won't win any debates for you.
Quote: | No this only shows how you are not capable to understand complex games. I dont give a shit how many games you name. Its the internet. You find game that has ball rolling on floor innovation. Thats enough for me. |
Uh, again, I just said that I play many of those "complex" games that you love so much, and that I also play console games, because I find them more gratifying these days, especially in the social context.
How can you say that console gamers are stupid, and only play consoles games because they aren't PC experts, when I'm right here, I'm a very proficient lifelong PC user, and I'm also both a lifelong PC gamer, and a lifelong console gamer? I'm living disproof of your stupid prejudice.
Again, the only things you seem to find "innovative" are increasingly complex tech trees in strategy games, and open-world RPGs. That shows me that you're too stubborn and blind to be able to admit that there can be innovation on any platform, from PC, to consoles, to handhelds, to cell phones even.
Question to other, more frequent users of these forums:
Is this user, Nakitu, generally regarded as stupid around here, or is he just acting really off about this subject? Honestly curious.
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Also, another question I have for you:
You seemed to have tried to dodge a point I made about Jet Grind Radio. You started making stupid claims about how it's a Tony Hawk clone (which, if you weren't ignorant, you'd know that it's NOT AT ALL), but I never said that anything about the gameplay being innovative (though I can't really recall tagging in any game before it).
What I said, was that it had innovative graphics. It was the last game to date to invent a completely new graphical style.
So, are you going to try and debunk that (don't try; it's impossible), or are you going to try and dodge my point and twist my statements again, which you've been doing constantly this whole time?
Correcting people since 2007 even if they're not wrong.
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mario 64
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ground breaking games
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Cedge wrote: | Nakitu wrote: | Quantum physicist uses PC.  |
But isn't necessarily a PC expert, on the level that you or I might be.
Again, thinking that PC gamers are somehow smarter overall that console gamers is absolutely insane. Feeling that was is really not that dissimilar to sexism or racism. It's a horrible, stupid preconceived
notion. |
Ok do this. Go back to topic. Read what i wrote. I never said that ALL PC gamers are smarter. There are those people that dont know how to use PC, and find it to complex.Thats why i said that people who KNOW
how use their PC to its full extent are smarter.Quantum physicist is an expert in certain fields of PC use so yeah he is an expert.
Cedge wrote: | Nakitu wrote: | Wow so on DOS there were only floppys? No cds? Dos didnt have registry errors,errors with updates,problems with sp, 2000 drivers and all other stuff that can
make youre pc unusable. I never had any problems with dos and i had all games running in no time. |
Uh, don't put words in my mouth. Again, ask anyone who remembers the time period: A lot of later DOS games gave users headaches over getting memory configured correctly, etc. And I never said Windows is
error-free. I'm just saying that DOS often required some serious effort to get games working perfectly in. |
So you dont wanna for me to put words in youre mouth? Well then you should stop that too.Im sorry but, when youre OS crashes when trying to install or run some game, doesnt sound fast or easy.
Cedge wrote: | Nakitu wrote: | Name five complex games. Console only. |
It doesn't matter what games I name, because you'll just brush them off and say "No way, Civ is more complex." You're too fucking stubborn to see any other possibility. |
Im stubborn and cant see other possibilities? You are joking right? Im the only one who acknowledged youre every good point. Go check it. On the other hand every point you loose to you simply ignore. Spot
on. If you cant name them, well its ok, there are none.
Cedge wrote: | Nakitu wrote: | Wow you have no idea what you are talking about. Go get HD source and rip it. Plz its so easy. Show me i wanna see. Oh you have knowledge about Flash? Its childrens toy. Plz do
some scripts for me.Like i said i can do more shit with pc then you with youre console. |
What do you mean "HD source"? You mean HD-DVDs or Blu-Ray discs? Please. Anyone can do that. DVDFab and AnyDVD do it practically automatically. |
Dude i am talking about doing rips of hd movies with H264 codec. Thats the one that has no gui and uses command line interface. In fact no comercial app can encode that. Good luck and dont foget the quants.
Hd DVD source is Vc1 or h264/AVC video with DD+ audio. BluRay is MPEG-2 or AVC video with LPCM audio. For capping TV its up to you.
Cedge wrote: | This debate was never about whether consoles or PCs are more versatile (of course, PCs are). This is about whether PC games are somehow automatically "better" by the simple
virtue that they are PC games, which, I'm sorry, they're not. |
You keep saying PC gamers while all the time i use the term PC users. Do you see the difference? Who in this day and age use PC for only games? And again i said PC games are more complex and they are bettar
for people that like to use their brain. I find button mashing insult to my intelligence.
Cedge wrote: | Nakitu wrote: | Wow you do all that and have the time to be on Nforce. Wow. How is that possible? You are not lying are you? O shit i forgot i do databases for CIA. My bad |
Wow, way to not pay attention to what I was saying. I was listing things that I did growing up during my childhood, not that I do everyday. You seemed to want proof that I'm not some moron who just
started casually using PCs, and I gave you a little of my background.
Try again, and make a real response this time. Quit copping out because you don't have shit worth saying. If you don't have shit worth saying, be a man and admit it. You're trying to dodge the points I'm
making, and I'm sorry, but acting like that won't win any debates for you. |
I dont remember saying anything insulting to you or asking for youre backround. So i dont see why do you feel the need to post youre BIO. You wanna feel superior? Youre bio doesnt mean anything here since
this is Internet. But calling people STUPID and IDIOTS does say alot about you. Im not the one doging anything.
Cedge wrote: | Nakitu wrote: | No this only shows how you are not capable to understand complex games. I dont give a shit how many games you name. Its the internet. You find game that has ball rolling on
floor innovation. Thats enough for me. |
Uh, again, I just said that I play many of those "complex" games that you love so much, and that I also play console games, because I find them more gratifying these days, especially in the social
context.
How can you say that console gamers are stupid, and only play consoles games because they aren't PC experts, when I'm right here, I'm a very proficient lifelong PC user, and I'm also both a lifelong PC
gamer, and a lifelong console gamer? I'm living disproof of your stupid prejudice. |
And i am very proficient Console user. I played god knows how many console games and PC games. All console games fail when compared to PC games. I never said that console gamers are stupid. Dont put words in my
mouth.
Cedge wrote: | Again, the only things you seem to find "innovative" are increasingly complex tech trees in strategy games, and open-world RPGs. That shows me that you're too stubborn and
blind to be able to admit that there can be innovation on any platform, from PC, to consoles, to handhelds, to cell phones even. |
Again lies. Go and check what games did i name as innovating then come back and check what you wrote.I didnt know that Diablo is complex and yet it was innovating.Alone in the dark ( thank you) (isnt complex) , Fallout, Flashback, Tomb raider,Deus Ex,Doom,GTA ......
But how can this be? Not all of this games are complex. I guess you are full of prejudice not me.
Cedge wrote: | Also, another question I have for you:
You seemed to have tried to dodge a point I made about Jet Grind Radio. You started making stupid claims about how it's a Tony Hawk clone (which, if you weren't ignorant, you'd know that it's NOT AT ALL), but I never said that anything about the gameplay being innovative (though I can't really recall tagging in any game before it).
What I said, was that it had innovative graphics. It was the last game to date to invent a completely new graphical style.
So, are you going to try and debunk that (don't try; it's impossible), or are you going to try and dodge my point and twist my statements again, which you've been doing constantly this whole time? |
Only one doging here is you. You ignore my points not me. I quote you on every statement. I said its clone which i later explaind. They took ONE PART of TONY HAWK and made game around it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Hawk_Pro_Skater
I did say that graphic part was innovative. And i am twisting youre statements?
[quote="MasterJuba"]mario 64 ,ocarina of time ground breaking games[/quote]
Hmmm no. Super mario was but these games were not.
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troll
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I didn't quite get the part where you laugh that quantum physicist uses computer... What's so funny? I'm a physicist (or at least I'll be ), and we have to use fu.... FORTRAN!!! Btw will anyone go to my term today... I kinda suck at programming...
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson chiv wrote: | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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rubbish thread.
Cohen wrote: | I'm a troll! well done, you caught me lying my ass off on a forum. I post pictures so that it makes you angry and that you wish you could have my awesome material things  |
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AAAA!!! Thnx for the explanation....
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson chiv wrote: | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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Cohen
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