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LeoNatan
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 Posted: Sat, 23rd Jun 2007 19:03 Post subject: Windows Vista - 6 Month Vulnerability Report |
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| Quote: | The results of the analysis show that Windows Vista continues to show a trend of fewer total and fewer High severity vulnerabilities at the 6 month mark compared to its predecessor product Windows XP (which did not benefit from the SDL) and compared to other modern competitive workstation OSes (which also did not benefit from an SDL-like process).
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[sYn]
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Kanee
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| Posted: Sat, 23rd Jun 2007 23:11 Post subject: |
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But XP is so old, lots of vulnerabilities have been found in the past. Vista is new, so there sould be many more vulnerabilities that are easy to discover, or am i wrong?
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| Posted: Sun, 24th Jun 2007 04:36 Post subject: |
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@ Kanee
You are wrong, the chart just show the number of High severity vulnerabilities found within the first 6 months of availability of the different OSes.
@ [sYn]
I guess that XP also wasn't used that much by big corp and companies within the first six months of its release, thus it must be somewhat balanced on this part.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sun, 24th Jun 2007 10:13 Post subject: |
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Actually, from charts I've seen, Vista has much larger marketshare than all linux distributions combined, so I'd say it's fair.
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| Posted: Sun, 24th Jun 2007 18:42 Post subject: |
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From all the famous people who know things in the world I heard that you were wrong Leo.
I also think fisk should be unbanned.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sun, 24th Jun 2007 19:48 Post subject: |
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[sYn]
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| Posted: Sun, 24th Jun 2007 20:43 Post subject: |
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That website is not representative of actual use, especially within the corporate market, its a web based detection system, nothing more.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sun, 24th Jun 2007 21:25 Post subject: |
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Any other source to counter their findings?
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| Posted: Mon, 25th Jun 2007 11:15 Post subject: |
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There is no need for a source to counter the findings of hitslink.com as it is useless "who browsed one of our websites using what os" crap. It has no baring on the millions of server machines or business desktop machines with no internet (or restricted) access around the world.
In order to show the true global market share of any OS we would need access to real market research companies results, which cost thousands. In truth the only real indication of Vista use is asking the members of the forum, but even that wouldn't bring a fair representation of its true use.
Seen as I know you will come back and say something like "ha, you can't prove it" I'll just post a link that provides an exact (and true) view into one section of the market meantioned above (web servers).
http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2007/05/01/may_2007_web_server_survey.html
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Mon, 25th Jun 2007 17:02 Post subject: |
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I won't say "ha, you can't prove it."
I'll say "Haha, you can't prove it." 
Nah, but that survey you posted is useless to our discussion, as we're talking about desktop oses. I'll try to look for more info on market share and post if I find something.
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| Posted: Mon, 25th Jun 2007 20:03 Post subject: |
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SLED (as in SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop) is geared toward the enterprise workstation, but a desktop OS nevertheless.
RHEL4WS (WS as in โWorkstationโ โ for technical power-user desktops or high-performance computing) is also an enterprise desktop OS.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RHEL
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SLED
 I see no server OS there...
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| Posted: Mon, 25th Jun 2007 21:44 Post subject: |
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My bad. You're still wrong though.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Mon, 25th Jun 2007 22:01 Post subject: |
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 Aight man. Like I said, when I have free time, I'll look for more info on the marker share. Not to prove you wrong, but because I'm interested now too. |
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| Posted: Mon, 25th Jun 2007 22:55 Post subject: |
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The average depth between england and france is lower than the average height of the average person in england, therefore the tunnel isn't needed as one can just walk to france.
And the moon is made of cheese 
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| Posted: Mon, 25th Jun 2007 23:02 Post subject: |
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Indeed.
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| Posted: Tue, 26th Jun 2007 00:32 Post subject: |
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vista is in its nascent .... that explains the low number.
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| Posted: Tue, 26th Jun 2007 09:48 Post subject: |
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pfft, I have a toaster that's more secure than linux, does it mean that it's better? No.
I also think fisk should be unbanned.
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| Posted: Tue, 26th Jun 2007 12:58 Post subject: |
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| dominae wrote: | | pfft, I have a toaster that's more secure than linux, does it mean that it's better? No. |
hahaha.. love it.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Tue, 26th Jun 2007 13:36 Post subject: |
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A toaster is better than Linux, duh...
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Epsilon
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| Posted: Mon, 2nd Jul 2007 23:02 Post subject: |
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http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2007/Jun/0528.html
The 6 month vulnerability report debunked...
So basically what they did was they counted bugs in programs like Firefox, Emacs and whatnot and bugs pertaining to different distributions and threw them all in as "Linux bugs" also they went on to count bugs that had been filed on development mailing lists as bugs when they weren't verified by the maintainers but at the same time did not count Vista bugs which weren't acknowledged by Microsoft eventhough multiple people encountered them.
Also on the Vista side, they did not count bugs in programs like Internet Explorer as a Vista bug or vulnerability.
Microsoft FUD eaten raw by fanboys
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| Posted: Fri, 6th Jul 2007 06:31 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | A toaster is better than Linux, duh... |
lol I'd like to know why you think Vista is such the greatest thing on the world compared to anything. The only real validation you showed torwards XP is it's old and outdated. a 1968 Chevelle SS is also outdated but none the less, well kick the shit out of just about anything released now. XP is still going strong because it works how it's supposed to. Linux on the other hand will always be on the top mainly because it powers just about anything and everything. Millions of websites aren't powered by windows, it's powered by linux as well as a lot of game servers  Just because it doesn't play your games or offer DX10 doesn't mean it sucks the least bit |
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