Good melee action game
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fizzy69




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PostPosted: Fri, 18th May 2007 21:15    Post subject: Good melee action game
hey, i've been playing alot of DMMM recently and its friggen fun as hell
any other games out there that are like it?
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Fri, 18th May 2007 21:29    Post subject:
Nope, at least not to the same degree. There will probably be some on consoles. It is really good fun, I hope more games come out with similar melee features in the future maybe in a proper RPG setting.


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th May 2007 21:35    Post subject:
These games are not like DMMM, but are good melee games.
Knights of the Temple 1 + 2
Bloodrayne 1 + 2
Beyond Good And Evil
Conan
Prince Of Presia series
Mage Knight Apocalypse
Forgotten Realms Demon Stone
Jade Empire Special Edition
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th May 2007 21:42    Post subject:
Severance, Rune and Enclave also has some interesting melee combat but are a little dated by now, still fun to play though. Smile
(But if you want older games feel free to try Ecstatica, Hexen, Heretic and Die by the Sword)

EDIT: Riddic: Escape from Butcher Bay, alot of fine memories from that game.
(EDIT: Typo - Riddic, return to butcher bay is not a existing game)


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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Fri, 18th May 2007 21:43    Post subject:
Veki wrote:
These games are not like DMMM, bu are good melee games.
Knights of the Temple 1 + 2
Bloodrayne 1 + 2
Beyond Good And Evil
Conan
Prince Of Presia series
Mage Knight Apocalypse
Forgotten Realms Demon Stone
Jade Empire Special Edition
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles


Hehe, most of those are shit apart from PoP and JE. Although worth a try Fizzy. Is Mage Knight Apocalypse any good? Not really heard much about it.

JBeckman is right on with Severence, Rune and Enclave, very good games for their time plus Severence and Enclave are still quite pretty considering their age, which is a bonus. Forgot about those!


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pikachupi




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PostPosted: Fri, 18th May 2007 22:00    Post subject:
sorry for the stupidity, but what is dmmm?

back in the old days..somewhere in the late 90's came nice game name time commando, you played soldier who cross time gates and fight-starting at the stone age till the far future in the space.

this is one of the greatest games i played..i think i still have the original somewhere.

here are some memorial screenshots and...a little bird told me that you can find it even today;)


http://www.mobygames.com/game/time-commando/screenshots
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th May 2007 22:04    Post subject:
It's probably supposed to be "Dark Messiah of Might and Magic". Idea
(One of the more recent PC titles with a heavy focus on melee combat, don't think there's much else that fits the DMMM description.)


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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Fri, 18th May 2007 22:04    Post subject:
Dude Time Commando was one of the most annoying games ever, I remember playing through the demo and it took me like 10 minutes to just line it up to throw pebbles at ape men in the stone age.


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th May 2007 22:11    Post subject:
No one mentioned Condemned?
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pikachupi




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PostPosted: Fri, 18th May 2007 22:21    Post subject:
AnimalMother wrote:
Dude Time Commando was one of the most annoying games ever, I remember playing through the demo and it took me like 10 minutes to just line it up to throw pebbles at ape men in the stone age.


lol..dunno...i had no probs at all, i went to blockbaster store to buy the full game(coulden't find it at other stores) after i loved the demo, and i finished the game in day or two:)
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th May 2007 22:23    Post subject:
time commando was awesomeeee
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th May 2007 23:34    Post subject:
also oni was preety nice...a bit repeated after while' but not bad at all

http://www.mobygames.com/game/oni/screenshots
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th May 2007 23:35    Post subject:
Rune!!
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 03:18    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
No one mentioned Condemned?
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 03:38    Post subject:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
LeoNatan wrote:
No one mentioned Condemned?


i'm pretty sure it is the only melee game ever was, cuz all u get is pipes and woodsticks through out whole game Laughing

they giving out ammo like russians during WW2 Embarassed
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 03:42    Post subject:
Laughing Yeah, but where's the fun at shooting, when you can take a 2x4 or a pipe and crack someone's skull with it? And the sound effects... Oh...
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 03:45    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
Laughing Yeah, but where's the fun at shooting, when you can take a 2x4 or a pipe and crack someone's skull with it? And the sound effects... Oh...


i prefer this

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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 04:20    Post subject:
The gtfo from the melee thread! Razz

Actually I too like shotguns, my favorite weapons.
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 05:33    Post subject:
Severence:Blade of darkness <-- the best hack and slach action game of all time.
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 05:36    Post subject:
Hold on... I forgot the best melee game... Gothic 3 LaughingLaughingLaughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 05:49    Post subject:
The combat system in that game was supposed to be a little more involving but due to a balance problem most enemies are taken down by just spamming the lmb mouse button to do a fast attack wich often overwhelms the enemy.
(Giving little reason to the powergamers to try the various combos and special moves.)

The previous Gothic games also had a somewhat special combat system instead of just pressing the mouse buttons randomly.

Can't remember any interesting melee combat games aside from the ones already mentioned but one could also try "Arx Fatalis" wich is Arkane's previous game before they released DMoMM but it's better known for it's unique spell system than for it's combat system.
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 14:16    Post subject:
The best melee games to this date are Jedi Knight (series) and the newer Mount and Blade. Period.

Die by the Sword was kind of a kool sword swinging game, but that system alienates most people.

DmoMM had nice combat, agreed, but it doesn't seem to have the "depth" of the fights as for instance Jedi Academy had.

JAcad duels (yes multiplayer of course) took weeks to practice before you had any chance of getting any good at it.
3 stances, 8 different swings for each stance. Like 3 Special "moves" for each stance. Very nice hitbox system and to spice it all up... Force powers.
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 17:14    Post subject:
Yeah, just wanted to mention Jedi Academy aswell Smile I hope they will release a sequel soon for the PC.

Enclave still looks awesome btw, I think I should play it again, I really enjoy this game.
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 17:31    Post subject:
Freudian wrote:

JAcad duels (yes multiplayer of course) took weeks to practice before you had any chance of getting any good at it.
3 stances, 8 different swings for each stance. Like 3 Special "moves" for each stance. Very nice hitbox system and to spice it all up... Force powers.


It doesn't take weeks, there are a few different moves you can spam and win 80% of fights. Still a good game though.


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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 18:29    Post subject:
Condemned
I kinda liked the fist fights in Matrix : Path of Neo (but I'm probably the only one).
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 19:42    Post subject:
maxiepaxie wrote:
Condemned
I kinda liked the fist fights in Matrix : Path of Neo (but I'm probably the only one).


lol..you are not the only one' this game got potential, they took one fight scene from jackie chan movie..that scene with the group of fuys that came after you in the wood building with the stairs and the axes (if you remember)

but somehow...this game sucked lol.
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 23:20    Post subject:
In my point of view Severance: Blade of Darkness was the best game in this category ever even if it is a quite outdated game


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PostPosted: Sun, 20th May 2007 02:50    Post subject:
AnimalMother wrote:
Freudian wrote:

JAcad duels (yes multiplayer of course) took weeks to practice before you had any chance of getting any good at it.
3 stances, 8 different swings for each stance. Like 3 Special "moves" for each stance. Very nice hitbox system and to spice it all up... Force powers.


It doesn't take weeks, there are a few different moves you can spam and win 80% of fights. Still a good game though.


All I can say is that when you started playing it really advanced, like the best guys out there in duels, there were no such thing as "spamming". You needed to learn what tactic/moves countered others. And that wasn't as simple as it sounds...

The guys with the most experience of the game and the ones with the best reflexes and "smarts" always won.

On the other hand, I don't know which patch you played... Maybe some balance mistake or a too early version. When I played it though the dual sabre wasn't ÜBER and could pwn all with spamming one or two moves.
Perhaps you played it when the console fanbois had had thier say and the game was made more simplistic?
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th May 2007 06:46    Post subject:
I had two friends who played it all the time, really got into it, joined a clan and considered themselves masters. They were even ranked on this site, something like 78th for one and 140th for the other. Plus they would say all this stupid shit when dueling like "Release your anger.." and "The light side has made you weak" stupid shit like that, anyway they were Jedi Knight/Academy geeks!

So I played against them on a LAN having played through singleplayer a few times and mutiplayer only enough to know the ropes. Well, the fighting is fairly simplistic in my opinion, especially considering blocking is automatic, I just figured out a few moves which seemed to connect the majority of the time and 'spammed' them, winning more fights against them then I lost. Using the lightside absorb power all the time makes it even easier. Needless to say it really pissed them off, so I took my spammage online and in 8/10 fights I would win, I didn't really play many duel maps though. Got boring fairly quick like this, but I din't have any motivation to change my tactic since it was so effective.

Of course half the people in online games don't even know what they're doing so maybe I would have had a better time playing on private servers with friends.


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PostPosted: Sun, 20th May 2007 13:07    Post subject:
Its a bit old and you got to like Star Wars but

Star Wars Jedi Knigh 2t: Outcast
Star Wars Jedi Academy

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