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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Jan 2007 12:10    Post subject:
The... "Aero 3D window thing"?



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THE ANTIWPA CRACKS WORK ON BOTH x86 AND x64, AND WINDOWS UPDATE WORKS TOO. THERE ARE NO UPDATE AS OF NOW TO COUNTER THE CRACK. IN ORDER TO BE SAFE, SET WINDOWS UPDATE TO MANUAL DOWNLOAD, SO YOU COULD MONITOR WHAT PATCHES ARE INSTALLED.

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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Jan 2007 16:58    Post subject:
dominae wrote:
I purchased Home Premium OEM. Have it on a separate partition, but don't run it as my primary OS yet, as the driver support is ftl. right now.
kk, thus where do you purchased it? Any link? What is your "cheap" price for the Ultimate version?
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Jan 2007 17:04    Post subject:
I thought OEM needs to be bundled with hardware or other software, not sold standalone? And OEM versions often have gimped functionality.


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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Jan 2007 21:15    Post subject:
Okay... so this Malicious Software Removal Tool released 1/8/07 is safe for download/install? (It won't fuck up my time freezing thing?)

Just being cautious. lol
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Jan 2007 21:28    Post subject:
Always have a look at the AntiWPA forums to be sure what you can and can not install. This one you can, as far as I know.
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Jan 2007 21:44    Post subject:
Parallax_ wrote:
I thought OEM needs to be bundled with hardware or other software, not sold standalone? And OEM versions often have gimped functionality.


CaptainCox wrote:

Brief translation : "Earlier OEM versions of OS where not allowed to be sold except when buying a new PC/System. But since the year 2000 that has changed due to a ruling in the State Court, OEM versions of OS can now be sold separately"


EDIT: 100% no need to buy any PC etc.
http://www.kmelektronik.de/
go to "Software/Betriebssysteme" MS Windows VISTA Ultimate 32bit OEM 199,90 €

Same here http://www2.atelco.de/7AqznD_iv6SBqA/1/articledetail.jsp?aid=8384&agid=185
MS Windows Vista Ultimate 32bit DSP 199,00 €


The OEM versions are EXACTLY like the "normal" version just no online MS support and no fancy box.


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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Jan 2007 22:13    Post subject:
CaptainCox wrote:
The OEM versions are EXACTLY like the "normal" version just no online MS support and no fancy box.

And no possibility to install on upgraded hardware. Once activated, OEM versions can not be activated on another PC (or upgraded hardware for that matter).
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jan 2007 06:39    Post subject:
lnatan25 wrote:
CaptainCox wrote:
The OEM versions are EXACTLY like the "normal" version just no online MS support and no fancy box.

And no possibility to install on upgraded hardware. Once activated, OEM versions can not be activated on another PC (or upgraded hardware for that matter).


Actually thats not true at all, I have an OEM version of XP and I have installed it several times, changed Motherboard, Ram, HDD's, CPU and Graphics card. All that has happened is I have had to talk to Microsoft and have them give me a series of numbers to re-activate. Vista will be the same I have no doubts on that.

A long as you tell them its not running on 2 machines all is good.
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jan 2007 08:11    Post subject:
Slider wrote:
lnatan25 wrote:
CaptainCox wrote:
The OEM versions are EXACTLY like the "normal" version just no online MS support and no fancy box.

And no possibility to install on upgraded hardware. Once activated, OEM versions can not be activated on another PC (or upgraded hardware for that matter).


Actually thats not true at all, I have an OEM version of XP and I have installed it several times, changed Motherboard, Ram, HDD's, CPU and Graphics card. All that has happened is I have had to talk to Microsoft and have them give me a series of numbers to re-activate. Vista will be the same I have no doubts on that.

A long as you tell them its not running on 2 machines all is good.

XP is possible, Vista not, do some research before telling shit here.


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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jan 2007 08:42    Post subject:
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Slider wrote:
Actually thats not true at all, I have an OEM version of XP and I have installed it several times, changed Motherboard, Ram, HDD's, CPU and Graphics card. All that has happened is I have had to talk to Microsoft and have them give me a series of numbers to re-activate. Vista will be the same I have no doubts on that.

A long as you tell them its not running on 2 machines all is good.

XP is possible, Vista not, do some research before telling shit here.

Indeed! Officially, MS never allowed that on XP as well, but because of the unclear EULA, they never enforced that rule. Same goes for XP retail. They never allowed to install it on multiple PCs. One license = one hardware.
With Vista they tried to fix that problem with a clear EULA, which in return raised a roar by many hardware enthusiasts, which were upset by the fact they couldn't install Vista on upgraded hardware. MS cowered, and changed the EULA for Vista retail. Vista OEM remains the same crap, though, so one license = one hardware.
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jan 2007 08:48    Post subject:
I have my current XP version from an old DELL "OEM" installed on MANY! PCs. I just call MS tel activation, get the question "is this the only PC you have this version installed with" answer...YES! "OK Sir, no problem, here is your activation key bla bla" But for VISTA OK, I only plan to install on this PC, no prob really, not for me anyway. And hey, we keep forgetting that $ rules the world Wink


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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jan 2007 16:13    Post subject:
In order to install the crack of the 64 bit version do i have to follow these instructions?:

1. Set BIOS date
2. Disconnect from I-net
3. Install 64 bit Ultimate (DO NOT enter key)
4. Set date back to present from within Vista (see 'Skip Activation w/ Timestopper.sys Crack' for method)
5. Run the patch
6. Reboot
7. Test through Command Prompt
8. Connect to I-net and do updates.


Or i have to follow these?:

1. Install Windows Vista Ultimate edition (or other edition) without product key.
2. Windows Vista needs to be applied with 2099-ReArm trick, so that the counter of minutes to no activation required period will not return to normal after reboot. Click on Start Orb button.
3. Select “All Programs”, then “Accessories”.
4. Right click on “Command Prompt, then select “Run as Administrator (A)”.
5. If User Account Control (UAC) prompt a warning message, click on “Continue”.
6. In the command prompt, type date and press Enter. You will see the following:

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Windows\system32>date
Current date: 12/19/2006 Thursday
Enter new date:
7. Enter 12/31/2099 (December 31, 2099).
8. Next, type cscript slmgr.vbs -rearm. You will see something like the following:

C:\Windows\system32>cscript slmgr.vbs -rearm
Microsoft (R) Windows Script Host Version 5.7
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

The command completed successfully.
To make the change effectively, please restart the system.
9. Then reset the date of the system to current date again by typing date again. You will see the following:

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Windows\system32>date
Current date: 12/31/2099 Thursday
Enter new date:
10. Type in current date, i.e. 12/19/2006.
11. Exit from command prompt, but do not restart the computer.
12. Download StopTimer.zip, StopTimer.zip, StopTimer.zip or StopTimer.zip torrent.
13. Extract the downloaded archive file into a folder. It should contains “Vista test crack.exe” and “timerstop.sys”.
14. Execute or run the “Vista test crack.exe” by right click on “Vista test crack.exe”, and select “Run as Administrator (A)”.
15. Optional: Press in Test button, and it will pop up a message says 4 timers are stopped. At this time, the counter should be freezed, Check with slmgr.vbs -dlv command, with the minutes left should be the same after a few minutes interval. If it’s the case, continue with the following steps to run the crack every startup.
16. In the Vista test crack window, click on “Install” button. You will be prompted with “Service installed” message if everything is done properly and correctly. The crack will copy the patched stoptimer.sys to system folder and install a new service named “timerstop” to stop kernel-mode timers in spsys.sys system file.
17. Exit from the crack, and restart the computer.
18. The hacking is basically done. Next few steps to to verify that the activation grace period built-in countdown timer is actually stopped and disable the timers from working properly, and make sure that the crack is installed properly. After restart, log on to Windows Vista. Run for a few minutes.
19. Press on Windows + R keys.
20. Type slmgr.vbs -dlv to check the time left to activate Windows Vista. If the time left is 43200 minutes that’s mean the crack is successful.
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jan 2007 17:04    Post subject:
WalkerBoh, the easies way to install Vista with crack:
Install Vista with no key. Select any SKU you want. When Vista boots after install, run CMD with admin rights, type "date", change the year to 2052. Now type "slmgr.vbs -rearm". Wait for the confirmation. Type "date" again, and set year to 2007. Run the crack EXE, install the service and reboot. Woohoo, you have a cracked Vista.
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jan 2007 17:08    Post subject:
Finally that's what i need to know. The instructions on keznews.com of the 64bit version where totally different from the 32bit one so i was a bit confused. Now it's ok thanks.
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jan 2007 18:11    Post subject:
FnF wrote:
Slider wrote:
lnatan25 wrote:

And no possibility to install on upgraded hardware. Once activated, OEM versions can not be activated on another PC (or upgraded hardware for that matter).


Actually thats not true at all, I have an OEM version of XP and I have installed it several times, changed Motherboard, Ram, HDD's, CPU and Graphics card. All that has happened is I have had to talk to Microsoft and have them give me a series of numbers to re-activate. Vista will be the same I have no doubts on that.

A long as you tell them its not running on 2 machines all is good.

XP is possible, Vista not, do some research before telling shit here.


Maybe you should pratice what you preach before opening your trap..
If you did your own research you would have found this.

Announced November 2nd:
I’m very pleased to let you know you this morning (or afternoon, or evening, depending on where you are when you read this) that the Windows division has revised the retail license terms for Windows Vista in a significant way. Namely, the terms regarding license-to-device assignment of the retail product (including Home Basic, Home Premium, Business and Ultimate) now read as follows:

You may uninstall the software and install it on another device for your use. You may not do so to share this license between devices.

Now To me that says you can uninstall, and reinstall as many times as you like.
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jan 2007 18:49    Post subject:
Ow, nice news indeed Smile...
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jan 2007 18:55    Post subject:
Slider wrote:
Maybe you should pratice what you preach before opening your trap..
If you did your own research you would have found this.

Announced November 2nd:
I’m very pleased to let you know you this morning (or afternoon, or evening, depending on where you are when you read this) that the Windows division has revised the retail license terms for Windows Vista in a significant way. Namely, the terms regarding license-to-device assignment of the retail product (including Home Basic, Home Premium, Business and Ultimate) now read as follows:

You may uninstall the software and install it on another device for your use. You may not do so to share this license between devices.

Now To me that says you can uninstall, and reinstall as many times as you like.

Rolling Eyes Slider, before you open that <insert-insult-here> you call mouth, read the damn thing carefully, while paying attention to the bold, large text in my quote.
Retail License != OEM License


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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jan 2007 19:13    Post subject:
Be nice people, name-calling had nothing to your argument. Smile
I just screwed my years old xp mce2005 custom installation with a deffective corsair 1024mb memory module that corrupted checkdisk "fixes" in the mbr after a BSOD... Crying or Very sad With an half broken and unstable xp, my switch to Vista will be quicker than expected...
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jan 2007 19:17    Post subject:
Sensi, he started it, I just replied in his style.
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jan 2007 23:03    Post subject:
lnatan25 wrote:
Sensi, he started it, I just replied in his style.


So when you thought his way of acting was wrong, you did the same.

You're a smart kid.
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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Jan 2007 00:17    Post subject:
Eh, whatever... I'm just angry at idiots, and when I'm angry, I get down to their level and beat them on the head with theit stupidity, that is usually accompanied with some stupid quote (that they haven't even read) and think they are so smart their brain will explode.
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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Jan 2007 00:18    Post subject:
If they're so stupid,
why are you imitating them?


I also think fisk should be unbanned.
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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Jan 2007 00:24    Post subject:
It usually amuses people...

How is that related to Vista?
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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Jan 2007 19:46    Post subject:
lnatan you've got to chill out a bit and learn to respect people. you are in no way superior to anyone visiting these forums.
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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Jan 2007 23:44    Post subject:
Damn, Counter-Strike Source as well as a bunch of other games are running flawlessly on Vista. Now that I can use Perfect Disk with this OS im sticking with it and my Xi-Fi works perfectly.
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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Jan 2007 23:57    Post subject:
Invisible79 wrote:
lnatan you've got to chill out a bit and learn to respect people. you are in no way superior to anyone visiting these forums.

Try reading some of the comments on this thread, let alone the entire forum, then speak to me about superiority...

Now, KrAzY-KaMeL, is X-Fi that good? I'm considering buying one, because stupid Creative will not be releasing EAX capable drivers for my Audigy 2. Is it worth it, or just stay with this one?
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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Jan 2007 00:53    Post subject:
It really depends, people have really bashed creative for their drivers but I to this day have no run into a problem. If your going from an Audigy 2, I would suggest you stick with that.

Performance difference between the two is non existant and the only way you'd hear a difference in sound quality is if you already have a nice speaker set up. If you were moving from on board then definently but you already have a solid sound card.

I mean are you a audiophile? If you are then I guess the Crystalizer and certain features would benefit you but then again thats if you have high quality speakers. To be honest with or without EAX enabled I wouldn't be able to spot the difference in many games since I don't blast my volume but it is nice to be able to select the highest available EAX mode offered in each game and rest in peace with that. Maybe your ears are better then mind i dunno.

Also take into consideration that you now have the King of graphics cards and I know there has got to be an urge to grab what in many peoples eyes is the king of sound cards to balance your rig out.

I say if you've got some doubts about your current sound cards ability and have some spare change in your pocket go for the X-Fi but they are releasing the PCI-Express version very soon as it was displayed during CES.

I got the Extreme Music version which was the cheapest and I got a good deal on it, only $60. I didn't need on board X-Ram that no game on earth uses or will ever use nor did I need a front panel since I do no audio work. But for music and games its a really nice thing to have knowing your sound card is no way in hell holding you back in any way.

EDIT: Oh yeah to answer your question if its good! Yes its great!
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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Jan 2007 05:57    Post subject:
Thanks KrAzY-KaMeL, I'll see what Creative does with current hardware and then I'll decide to buy or not to buy.
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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Jan 2007 12:44    Post subject:
The crystallizer sounds fucking awful on quality HiFi.

On my cheap headphones it makes crappy encoded mp3:s sound a bit more full though.


I also think fisk should be unbanned.
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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Jan 2007 13:38    Post subject:
Which Firewall are you using with Vista folks?

KrAzY-KaMeL wrote:
Damn, Counter-Strike Source as well as a bunch of other games are running flawlessly on Vista. Now that I can use Perfect Disk with this OS im sticking with it and my Xi-Fi works perfectly.
PerfectDisk FTW. The only think that bothered me so far is the lame x64 support for video tools, i guess we will still be forced to stick to a 32-bit windows until dev move their butts.
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