HD-DVD AACS DRM Cracked?
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azzman




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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Dec 2006 06:27    Post subject: HD-DVD AACS DRM Cracked?
Can it be? Is Hollywood's new DRM posterchild AACS (Advanced Access Content System, see more here) actually quite breakable? According to a post on our favoritest of forums (Doom9) by DRM hacker du jour muslix64, his new BackupHDDVD tool decrypts and dismantles AACS on a Windows PC. Just feed the small utility a crypto key [none released with application, more about it in FAQ], and it'll dump the video right off the disc onto your hard drive, supposedly playable in any HD DVD compatible player. If true, this would instantly become the DeCSS of high def optical, as AACS is the copy protection scheme used not only by HD DVD, but by Blu-ray as well.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=119871
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Dec 2006 08:25    Post subject:
Cracking AACS is only a matter of time anyway...

But it would be great if it was just such a short time Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Dec 2006 10:59    Post subject:
If that is true, I laugh at the movie-industry. They spent ages on AACS, both HD DVD and bluray releases were also in part delayed because of it. Laughing

Now, who do you think are going to download 25gb movies? And more importantly, who can be bothered uploading movies at that size?


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Dec 2006 15:47    Post subject:
if i understood it correctly, the guy found the keys to the movie he was watching in his system memory. It was placed there unencrypted by the player software, most likely the PowerDVD HD Version, so all you need is the original disc, read out the key, feed that to the copy script and presto, your own copy on your harddrive Smile

edit: I just remembered, this will not work with BD since they can update the players with a blacklist of "compromised" keys
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Dec 2006 16:08    Post subject:
Parallax_ wrote:
If that is true, I laugh at the movie-industry. They spent ages on AACS, both HD DVD and bluray releases were also in part delayed because of it. Laughing

Now, who do you think are going to download 25gb movies? And more importantly, who can be bothered uploading movies at that size?


yeah haha, spending millions of dollars and then some guy or team comes along and crack/break it in a week or so Laughing


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Dec 2006 17:20    Post subject:
now those nifty 16mbit dsl connections finally make sense Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Dec 2006 17:57    Post subject:
Parallax_ wrote:
If that is true, I laugh at the movie-industry. They spent ages on AACS, both HD DVD and bluray releases were also in part delayed because of it. Laughing

Now, who do you think are going to download 25gb movies? And more importantly, who can be bothered uploading movies at that size?


Allready dl 18gb+ files here! lot's of 1080i or p rips out there.. Fiber ftw!!
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Dec 2006 18:01    Post subject:
proddan wrote:
Allready dl 18gb+ files here! lot's of 1080i or p rips out there.. Fiber ftw!!


Your so cool Wink


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Dec 2006 18:26    Post subject:
Ye I know... Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Dec 2006 20:04    Post subject:
Parallax_ wrote:

Now, who do you think are going to download 25gb movies? And more importantly, who can be bothered uploading movies at that size?


x264, my man... requires a pretty nice rig to run well, but it's awesome stuff. Take one of those 25gb movies and turn it into something quite more manageable... 4-5gb for a great quality rip.
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Dec 2006 21:34    Post subject:
I wouldnt mind see dvd sized divxHD rips. 900x500 sized rips are around 2 gigs with 5.1 audio, with a 4.3gig sized rip you can probably do 720p res with ease if not higher.
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Dec 2006 21:35    Post subject:
I'm talking DVDRips, not crappy divx/divx/whatever rips. Smile


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Dec 2006 22:17    Post subject:
Parallax_ wrote:
I'm talking DVDRips, not crappy divx/divx/whatever rips. Smile


So I guess they would be 1-2 DVDs rather than CDs?


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Dec 2006 22:55    Post subject:
knives217 wrote:
Parallax_ wrote:
I'm talking DVDRips, not crappy divx/divx/whatever rips. Smile


So I guess they would be 1-2 DVDs rather than CDs?


Or even just 1 Dual-Layer DVD Disk.
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Dec 2006 23:29    Post subject:
Parallax_ wrote:
I'm talking DVDRips, not crappy divx/divx/whatever rips. Smile


Well im talking about something else, divxhd is far from crappy. Looks better then dvd quality since its at higher res and its half the size.
If you're talking about the 20gig rips then good luck. Seems like every isp is capping peoples upload to 1mbit. Cant imagine how long it would take to upload 20gigs at that speed. Downloading on the other hand is easy.
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Dec 2006 23:32    Post subject:
Parallax_ wrote:
I'm talking DVDRips, not crappy divx/divx/whatever rips. Smile

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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Dec 2006 23:36    Post subject:
[quote="shabby"]
Parallax_ wrote:
Seems like every isp is capping peoples upload to 1mbit. Cant imagine how long it would take to upload 20gigs at that speed. Downloading on the other hand is easy.


Not really, ive got adsl 20/3...so atleast 3 mbit up Razz not very impressive, but atleast better than 1mbit.


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Dec 2006 23:40    Post subject:
Slim12345 wrote:
Parallax_ wrote:
I'm talking DVDRips, not crappy divx/divx/whatever rips. Smile

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I meant xvid obviously, but it's al lthe same shit for movies. TV-Series I could watch in those formats because I usually watch them on my LCD monitor.


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Dec 2006 23:41    Post subject:
shabby wrote:
Seems like every isp is capping peoples upload to 1mbit. Cant imagine how long it would take to upload 20gigs at that speed. Downloading on the other hand is easy.


Are they? Only place ive seen caps like that is on adsl and that is crap. I got 100up like most people have where i download, no access there if you got less then 10 up so should go fast. And then it probably spreads out to you sooner or later.
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Jan 2007 20:59    Post subject:
Parallax_ wrote:
Slim12345 wrote:
Parallax_ wrote:
I'm talking DVDRips, not crappy divx/divx/whatever rips. Smile

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I meant xvid obviously, but it's al lthe same shit for movies. TV-Series I could watch in those formats because I usually watch them on my LCD monitor.



You cant be serious. I have many HD Xvids and they are night and day better than any DVDRIP. On both my 720p projector and my SXRD in 1080p. And there would be no point in ripping hd content to dvds, what are you playing it in?

The only thing i have seen better than my HD Xvid rips are my HD-DVDs. Havent tried Blueray , and dont plan on it.


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jan 2007 03:08    Post subject:
Bigperm wrote:
Parallax_ wrote:
Slim12345 wrote:

Very Happy

I meant xvid obviously, but it's al lthe same shit for movies. TV-Series I could watch in those formats because I usually watch them on my LCD monitor.



You cant be serious. I have many HD Xvids and they are night and day better than any DVDRIP. On both my 720p projector and my SXRD in 1080p. And there would be no point in ripping hd content to dvds, what are you playing it in?

The only thing i have seen better than my HD Xvid rips are my HD-DVDs. Havent tried Blueray , and dont plan on it.


You can author HD-DVD compliant movies on standard DVD media that will play in a standalone machine. A reencode of the movie only (90min) in H.264/AVC (which has a slight edge over VC-1 in compression) with lower bitrate still in 1080P could be possiable on a single DL DVDR.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jan 2007 10:02    Post subject:
Bigperm wrote:
The only thing i have seen better than my HD Xvid rips are my HD-DVDs. Havent tried Blueray , and dont plan on it.

Of course, that's what I meant if it wasn't clear enough.


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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Jan 2007 08:27    Post subject:
Decryption Keys For HD-DVD Found, Confirmed
>> From slashdot.org:
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It appears that, despite skepticism, Muslix64's BackupHDDVD was the real deal. Starting from a riddle posted on pastebin.com, members on the doom9 forum identified the Title key for the HD-DVD release 'serenity.' Volume Unique Keys and Title keys for other discs followed within hours, confirming that software HD-DVD players, like any common program, store important run-time data in memory. Here's a link to decryption utility and sleuthing info in the original doom9 forum thread. The Fair Use crowd has won Round One; now how will the industry respond?
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Jan 2007 10:05    Post subject:
Or just check doom9.org where you can find the utility Smile


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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Jan 2007 20:42    Post subject:
Man, when 720p 4gb film rips come on I'm gonna be a happy man. 20gb is too much, unless I plan to burn and watch again and again.

Superman Returns already being upped to usenet!
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Jan 2007 21:14    Post subject:
Superman returns = 26 gb.

Now bring on some cheap media and some cheap hd burners and I will be a happy man. I am guessing it will take a while though.
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Jan 2007 22:31    Post subject:
Ha.. Fuck that. Most movies aren't worth watching anyhow, so dl 20 fucking gigs.. No way Very Happy
BTW, look at Children of Men or Blood Diamond DVDSCR in Xvid. Great quality IMO. If that's not good enough for you, happy downloading Wink
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jan 2007 00:37    Post subject:
try watching those xvids on a 100" screen , then tell me if you think they are great quality LOL
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jan 2007 00:50    Post subject:
yeah, even on my shitty ass 25" TV I see all kinds of macro blocking with xvid ... at least you can fit a bunch of them on 1 dvdr though Wink


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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jan 2007 06:00    Post subject:
look just face it. some people have lower standards than others. for some people 'vhs quality' is perfectly clear... these people will NEVER get what we see in high definition, so its pointless to argue with them. those people arent stupid... just dont get the fuss, because they arent as 'in to' media as the rest of us... theres nothing WRONG with that... i just sure as hell wouldnt wanna be that way Very Happy


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