Aye, the path has been paved already for the ultimate jump into the cloud-y hole of nothingness, though it's not unlikely that life will still find a way(tm) despite everything. Or at least that's what I hope, as I've never paid for any gaming service and definitely plan to keep it that way in the futhurr envisioned by the giant greedy green pears.
I liked the bit about those having a lot of DDR4/DDR5 before all this shit are basically sitting on a huge investment that can be sold for several times the price paid at the time.
I am still running a 2017 AM4 mobo with a 5800X3D and 32Gig RAM. I don't feel the need to upgrade at all and it seems like I will keep this system for another 3 years at least. By far the longest I had a mobo ever.
And the 9070XT is perfectly fine/slightly overkill for the games I play at 3440x1440@100Hz. Also thanks to FSR4.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
i hope more scalpers buy them and then sit on their 5000 usd bricks whenthe bubble pops just like there gonna be sitting a ton of people on ram . i expect great deals in 2027 when ddr6 comes out roflol
i still dont get where the now old useles budget mining cards went too. why havent those flooded the market yet . i only see some on american ebay in very small quanitities
i have a feeling they getting refurbed and conned scammed as second hand normal cards
i have an office machine running on 4 gigs btw for just ms office stuff ... runs fine... i actually need to check if one stick is broken or something as i couldnt bilieve it was only 4 gig when i saw it
Me postponing my planned early 2025 new rig cause I believed the mid range GPU's lacked VRAM .
It's the covid GPU shortage all over. And GPU prices have never fully recovered since then.
I think the industry is just exploiting the "shortage" to push for higher margins. It's an oligopoly. It's not that there isnt a shortage in production capacity, but they are not in a hurry to fix it. And I know it takes a lot of time to increase production capacitiy and those machines are in short supply also. But I'm also pretty certain if the industry realy wanted, they could have planned ahead and supply would be better. Ram suppliers learned from Nvidia how to play this game.
And while Moore's law is dead and compute isn't improving all that lot like it used to, the irony is that in this era of slow innovation the stuff is getting more expensive every year.
Such a contrast with the start of the century when hardware was cheap (although outdated allready the day you bought it)
Imho the end of PC gaming. Things will stay overpriced for a long time. When ram prices normalize they'll find something new to rip you off.
The semi industry will eventualy collaps and chips will become a comodity cause they can't maintain those absurd margins given the slow speed of innovation, but this will not happen in the near future.
Nigga please.
All it takes is for the new chinese AI iteration to leapfrog whatever the retarded americans are doing at a fraction of the cost/resources and both demand and prices will tumble down, forcing that greedy bastard Jensen to sell his leather jacket collection. Or hopefully needing to boil and eat them in order to survive
boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
Damn suddenly my msrp 5080fe from last month is ... lucky ?!
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Nigga please.
All it takes is for the new chinese AI iteration to leapfrog whatever the retarded americans are doing at a fraction of the cost/resources and both demand and prices will tumble down, forcing that greedy bastard Jensen to sell his leather jacket collection. Or hopefully needing to boil and eat them in order to survive
But then things will be fine for 1-3 years and something new is gonna happen. For instance: if humanoid robots are gonna be a thing, guess what will happen with the the supply of GPU’s. High end pc gaming is gonna be a thing of the past cause it’s becomming to expensive. It’s gonna be the steam box kind of hardware that we all will be using. Still fine imho.
Not a big issue. Those things will be too costly for mass production for a long time.
50k? To replace 4fte?
And perhaps other things are gonna happen. No one has forseen the ram shortage cause by the openai bubble and the gpu shortage during the crypto boom.
But production capacity in the semi industry will be kept tight. Any new inovation will fuck up supply.
But then things will be fine for 1-3 years and something new is gonna happen. For instance: if humanoid robots are gonna be a thing, guess what will happen with the the supply of GPU’s. High end pc gaming is gonna be a thing of the past cause it’s becomming to expensive. It’s gonna be the steam box kind of hardware that we all will be using. Still fine imho.
Sorry but I can't see how humanoid robots going mainstream will somehow affect the GPU supply.
boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
Not a big issue. Those things will be too costly for mass production for a long time.
50k? To replace 4fte?
And perhaps other things are gonna happen. No one has forseen the ram shortage cause by the openai bubble and the gpu shortage during the crypto boom.
But production capacity in the semi industry will be kept tight. Any new inovation will fuck up supply.
This whole "ram shortage" is just a scam and excuse by the big companies to hike up the prices tenfold and then 1 year later we settle at only 5x thinking its "cheap" now...
Happens all the time, everywhere, with everything.
Not a big issue. Those things will be too costly for mass production for a long time.
50k? To replace 4fte?
And perhaps other things are gonna happen. No one has forseen the ram shortage cause by the openai bubble and the gpu shortage during the crypto boom.
But production capacity in the semi industry will be kept tight. Any new inovation will fuck up supply.
This whole "ram shortage" is just a scam and excuse by the big companies to hike up the prices tenfold and then 1 year later we settle at only 5x thinking its "cheap" now...
Happens all the time, everywhere, with everything.
Tell me you don't understand "supply and demand" without telling me.
According to industry sources on the 30th, AMD is expected to raise the prices of some GPUs starting in January next year, and Nvidia starting in February next year.
the RTX 5090, was released at the beginning of this year at $1,999 (KRW 2.86 million), but it is expected to soar to $5,000 (KRW 7.15 million) next year.
Both companies are reportedly planning to continue raising GPU prices every month going forward. It's highly likely that the price increases will extend across their entire product lineup, encompassing not only consumer GPUs but also GPUs for AI data centers and servers.
An industry insider explained, "The average proportion of memory in the overall GPU manufacturing cost has recently exceeded 80%."
Global market research firm Counterpoint predicts that memory prices will rise by an additional 40% by the second quarter of next year. Some analysts predict that the price increase will be even steeper next year, with general-purpose memory prices potentially rising several times over.
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Both companies are reportedly planning to continue raising GPU prices every month going forward.
Should have kept that 5090 after all, even if pricey, might as well own the best high end gaming GPU ever released right?
From here on out it's "we decided to skip the 60 series, we think players will be happy to know they can just play their entire* library of games on GeforceNow! for only $29.99 a month for the 5070 machine!" while all the GPU chips (and most other hardware) now go to server/ai farms
The new DLSS 4.5 helps with ghosting and overall image instability a lot which is amazing in Spider Man which I am currently playing. With DLSS 4 it gives me all sorts of wonky lines / edges unstable images with Quality DLSS... with 4.5 the image is crystal clear when moving fast through city...
but omg the Battlefield 6 FPS went to shit... that's like loss of 10%-20% of FPS... DLSS 4 (preset K) gives me locked stable 100 fps and GPU is not even maxed out... with DLSS 4.5 (nvidia pp set to use latest DLSS) I am getting dips to 80... what the hell. I am playing at custom DLSS resolution 75% (normal quality is 67)...
like wtf... nvidia trying to downgrade our experience so 6070TI for 2k sounds great in a year?
was really excited based on spiderman experience, but omg that battlefield
Performance Impact:
While the new model significantly improves visuals, it increases compute demand. On RTX 20 and 30 Series GPUs, this results in a 20%+ performance hit, though RTX 40 and 50 Series GPUs benefit from FP8 acceleration to mitigate the load. On RTX 50 Series, the performance impact is minimal—around 2–3%—while image quality gains are substantial.
The tensor cores on RTX 40 and 50 series have FP8 precision (floating point unit) that mitigates most of the performance hit since DLSS 4.5 was made with FP8 in mind. DLSS 4.5 will be totally useless for previous generations.
I'm guessing the "minimal performance impact" on 40 and 50 series isn't all that minimal in various scenarios though. Seems like an attempt to get more people to replace their current GPU's with 50-series cards.
The new DLSS 4.5 helps with ghosting and overall image instability a lot which is amazing in Spider Man which I am currently playing. With DLSS 4 it gives me all sorts of wonky lines / edges unstable images with Quality DLSS... with 4.5 the image is crystal clear when moving fast through city...
but omg the Battlefield 6 FPS went to shit... that's like loss of 10%-20% of FPS... DLSS 4 (preset K) gives me locked stable 100 fps and GPU is not even maxed out... with DLSS 4.5 (nvidia pp set to use latest DLSS) I am getting dips to 80... what the hell. I am playing at custom DLSS resolution 75% (normal quality is 67)...
like wtf... nvidia trying to downgrade our experience so 6070TI for 2k sounds great in a year?
was really excited based on spiderman experience, but omg that battlefield
So AMDerp's response was... some useless openAI collab bullshit
BRB, gonna commit unalive with my 9070XT via bludgeoning (it's fucking MAYUSSIVE!)...
boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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