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 Posted: Wed, 15th Oct 2025 17:22 Post subject: First PC |
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Struck a gold mine, found this old bill from 1994 (war in Croatia?  )  my first Pc, had a Schneider before that 
486DX2/66 MHz, 256 kB cache
420 Mb hard 
4 MB RAM
S3 1 MB VLB VGA
Sound Blaster Master Boomer
RIC (Racing International Corporation) VGA color monitor
Floppy
Chicony keyboard
2175 DEM (Deutsche Marks) — serious investment back then. Adjusted for inflation, it would be €1800 today.
Played Dune 2 and Monkey Island 2 on it and the old Aladdin platform game, good old days.
Cading Computers ist kaput  now they sell sawing machines at that address |
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Oct 2025 18:22 Post subject: |
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It's about 2400 euro's. Forgot how expensive hardware was those days. Prices droped from that point onwards.
At the start of the century you had a high end rig with quality parts for a 1000 euro's, about 1500 euro's in todays money
Now it's 3-4k for a high end rig. And all you can play is console ports with poorly optimised graphics. Prices will normalise for sure, but there isn't any sign of it happening atm
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Oct 2025 19:39 Post subject: |
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Yeah, looking at a desktop rig it's about 4.5k, Nvidia 5090 alone is 2500-3000k.
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Oct 2025 20:09 Post subject: |
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Think it's a bit late to buy a 5090 now 10 months after release. The price is only worth it the first 2 years and afterwards you have a card with high power consumption and a lot of heat. The 6080 will be the better card for half the price. Also imagine the thing breaking down just a couple of month after warranty.
But that's just my opinion, I don't believe high end is worth it at all atm. It's overkill now and hot, loud and less durable for the future.
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Oct 2025 20:55 Post subject: |
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| madmax17 wrote: | | Yeah, looking at a desktop rig it's about 4.5k, Nvidia 5090 alone is 2500-3000k. |
But that rig doesn't really provide any advantage, unless you wanna go 4k360fps or so. At least back then, you were always bottlenecked by most hardware, so investing in a better setup always provided a better experience. And it was outdated in latest 2 years.
Nowadays a mid-tier setup will be fine for 5+ years and provide a decent experience.
“The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.”
- Albert Camus
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Frant
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Oct 2025 01:09 Post subject: |
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In 1994 I still had my Amiga 1200. I bought my first PC in parts summer 1995. Intel 430 TX board, Pentium 75, 512 MB RAM(?), 1 GB HD (?), 14" monitor, crappy Cirrus Logic 5430 gfx, generic case and so on.
(?) = don't remember exactly
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
"The sky was the color of a TV tuned to a dead station" - Neuromancer
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vurt
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I got a 386 in '89, this was a few months before soundblaster was released, so the only sound was PC-speaker (ugh!).
I predicted it would be the the new game platform and Amiga was on the way out. I had just started working + i had sold off the Amiga to a friend. I think the PC cost something like $1000, it was a used one though, no idea if it came with a monitor or not, probably not.
Leisure Suite Larry, Prince of Persia, those were the two first games i played on it. I loved the animations in Prince of Persia
That time of 386-Pentium and a bit beyond that... wow, there was a lot of upgrading... went through SO many PC's, and when 3D came, ughhh, i have probably owned close to 25-30 3D cards i bet.
| Frant wrote: | | 512 MB RAM(?), |
No. maybe 8, or 16 if very lucky. Even 4 was still common i believe.
I had either 1 or 2MB, can't remember. I know it was better than my Amiga 500.
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Oct 2025 08:01 Post subject: |
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| Frant wrote: | In 1994 I still had my Amiga 1200. I bought my first PC in parts summer 1995. Intel 430 TX board, Pentium 75, 512 MB RAM(?), 1 GB HD (?), 14" monitor, crappy Cirrus Logic 5430 gfx, generic case and so on.
(?) = don't remember exactly |
Amiga was so cool, my friend had it great games. |
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konkol84
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Oct 2025 09:33 Post subject: |
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| VonMisk wrote: | My first computer was Atari 64XL, my first PC was basically same as MadMax's. I remember buying more RAM for Diablo Hellfire. And it costed something around 250€ adjusted for inflation  |
Remember playing Diablo with a friend, killed Diablo himself with a bow from a distance those were the days.. |
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ixigia
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My first experience with a PC was thanks to my uncle's IBM, but it wasn't until late 1996 when I was in middle school that I finally got a proper one (Pentium + Voodoo). Needless to say, that opened Pandora's Box and a severe addiction started right there. Doom 1/2, Duke 3D, Quake, C&C RA, Daggerfall, Tomb Raider, Grand Prix 2 etc. -- good times 
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Oct 2025 12:32 Post subject: |
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Ah Tomb Raider, got the Voodoo for that one my dad drove me to buy it in the middle of nowhere
Doom we played back in high school, Duke 3D was amazing played multiplayer with my friend from school.
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Oct 2025 17:37 Post subject: |
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my dad bought a 486 and then we got a soundblaster and cd upgrade and i got started with doom2 and real sounds from soundblaster pc speakers lol
few years later i got my first own pc a pentium 60. still have case but now with a 233mmx and voodoo 2 still working inside of it
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Oct 2025 19:40 Post subject: |
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| 4treyu wrote: | First PC experience: Apple IIe back in '86 in the computer lab in high school.
First owned PC: PIII + 3dfx Voodoo Banshee midway through my college studies (1998), and just in time for the release of the greatest video game ever made |
Hm Half-Life? Fond memories of that, and HL2  |
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Frant
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Oct 2025 00:15 Post subject: |
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| vurt wrote: | I got a 386 in '89, this was a few months before soundblaster was released, so the only sound was PC-speaker (ugh!).
I predicted it would be the the new game platform and Amiga was on the way out. I had just started working + i had sold off the Amiga to a friend. I think the PC cost something like $1000, it was a used one though, no idea if it came with a monitor or not, probably not.
Leisure Suite Larry, Prince of Persia, those were the two first games i played on it. I loved the animations in Prince of Persia
That time of 386-Pentium and a bit beyond that... wow, there was a lot of upgrading... went through SO many PC's, and when 3D came, ughhh, i have probably owned close to 25-30 3D cards i bet.
| Frant wrote: | | 512 MB RAM(?), |
No. maybe 8, or 16 if very lucky. Even 4 was still common i believe.
I had either 1 or 2MB, can't remember. I know it was better than my Amiga 500. |
I knew Amiga was on the way out since C= was going out of business thanks to the two corrupt bosses that milked the company and sank it into the swamp of despair. I used a 386 1990-1992 when I studied computer blabla while at a folkhögskola. It wasn't even comparable to the A500 and I never thought it was something I wanted at the time. It had a CPU with higher MHz but the horrible CGA/EGA graphics and the beeper sounds (I can't remember what a soundcard cost back then or what the quality was back then).
So I got myself an A1200. I did a lot more on the Amiga than gaming. I programmed 68K assembler, I wrote soundtracker/protracker modules/music, I drew graphics in Deluxe Paint 2, 3 and 4 in intro and demos that I made etc. which made the Amiga more important to me.
In the spring of 1995 I realised that it was the end for Amiga and it was with a heavy heart that I sold my A1200 and got that P75 based PC in parts. It was 8 MB RAM, I remember it now. Wow, 8MB - I have 32GB in my PC now. I've never ever bought a ready-built PC, I've upgraded the parts for 30 years since then. When does a computer become a new computer if you only swap parts every now and then? I guess my current PC is just the latest iteration of it. 
What's funny is that the retro scene is stronger than ever and the 8/16/32-bit computers I grew up with are incredibly popular. Commodore is back, a new official Commodore C64 was just released, there are tons of new addons, accelerator cards, advanced graphics cards, dozens and dozens of new games for the Amiga released every year, C=/Amiga based parties, old demo groups have reformed and new ones formed. The same goes for the Speccy and the C64. The demos they do for those machines today are ridiculous and seems totally impossible.
I still love my Speccy 48k+, my two C64's, my Amiga 500, Amiga 1200 and Amiga 3000 dearly. They're obviously a hobby and nostalgia thing; I'm not using any of them as my daily machine. I could though if I bought some new addons to my A1200 or A3000 that has modern graphics and sound, a fast accelerator card with a lot of fast RAM etc. but that's just way too expensive for me. I think there's a new Amiga being worked on. It's not based on the old architecture though so I don't know how that will work.
Anyway, I'm still a daily PC user. I have little interest in Linux since I don't really see the point even though I'm a bit annoyed and worried about M$ breaching my privacy more and more with so much crap running that they hide from the user. For that reason I may check out linux in a vm to see if it's something I can get used to for the sake of not feeling like I'm being spied on by big corpo.
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
"The sky was the color of a TV tuned to a dead station" - Neuromancer
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Frant
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Oct 2025 00:16 Post subject: |
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| PickupArtist wrote: | my dad bought a 486 and then we got a soundblaster and cd upgrade and i got started with doom2 and real sounds from soundblaster pc speakers lol
few years later i got my first own pc a pentium 60. still have case but now with a 233mmx and voodoo 2 still working inside of it |
Perfect setup for playing the golden oldies on.
I loved the Voodoo 2 12MB I had just as I loved the Voodoo 3 3000 and Voodoo 5 5500.
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
"The sky was the color of a TV tuned to a dead station" - Neuromancer
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| Posted: Sat, 25th Oct 2025 18:10 Post subject: |
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i wish i could boot the older pentium 90 and 468 i have sitting here but the goddamn time chip built in battery is empty and i will need to dremel holes and solder wires in it to atach a round penny battery to it
how fucking stupid is it a maschine wont boot cause it doesnt know what time it is zzzz
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