Chris Avellone leaves Obsidian Entertainment
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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Mar 2023 11:24    Post subject:
What idiotic and retarded cunts. To destroy a person's livelihood and reputation because we wanted to suport women. So we made shit up ?
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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Mar 2023 11:37    Post subject:
All of this bullshit for this ? I guess the settlement takes care of it, but they would have deserved to be prosecuted for this, they're getting away from this relatively scoff-free.


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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Mar 2023 11:56    Post subject:
TheZor wrote:
All of this bullshit for this ? I guess the settlement takes care of it, but they would have deserved to be prosecuted for this, they're getting away from this relatively scoff-free.

I agree. This happens a lot more than is reported and hinders real abuse cases. The money settlements are likely never to be seen for the defendants of such cases since plaintiff probably doesn’t have it which is probably part of the reason why they did what they did. Almost always about dat cash.


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Everything I don't understand is a mental disorder. Laughing

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If the illegals are drowning its their fault for attempting to cross the river in the first place. Especially the children. /s

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Who cares about gameplay. It's one of the few next-gen looking titles out there so BRING IT ON.
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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Mar 2023 12:45    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
Video Game Writer Chris Avellone’s Accusers Issue Public Statement Retracting Accusations Of Sexual Assault

Quote:
https://chrisavellone.medium.com/joint-statement-from-karissa-barrows-kelly-bristol-and-chris-avellone-3b2138e5837f

“After engaging with Mr. Avellone, we have prepared the following statement:

Mr. Avellone never sexually abused either of us. We have no knowledge that he has ever sexually abused any women. We have no knowledge that Mr. Avellone has ever misused corporate funds. Anything we have previously said or written about Mr. Avellone to the contrary was not our intent. We wanted to support women in the industry. In so doing, our words have been misinterpreted to suggest specific allegations of misconduct that were neither expressed nor intended. We are passionate about the safety, security and agency of women, minorities, LGBTQIA+ persons, and every other community that has seen persecution in the video game industry. We believe Mr. Avellone shares a desire to protect and uplift those communities. We believe that he deserves a full return to the industry and support him in those endeavors.”

Karissa Barrows, Kelly Rae Bristol
“I appreciate the willingness of Ms. Barrows and Ms. Bristol to work with us in addressing issues within the game community, and their advocacy is to be commended and supported.

There are still many very real challenges that we face but am confident we can face them together.

In the spirit of these goals, I would ask everyone to respect the privacy of Ms. Barrows and Ms. Bristol and use this opportunity as a means to listen to all voices in improving our culture and our communities.”

Chris Avellone


Good. I'm glad he decided to go after them in court.

Now I wonder if shit gaming rags like The Gamer are going to retract their bullshit articles that slandered Avellone. They can go, "Avellone sexually harassed people" as a title/header and then just say it's an alleged assault, but that's enough to ruin someone's reputation. Then they don't bother updating it or even releasing a new article about it when more info that proves them wrong comes up. I didn't see anything from shit rag The Gamer when Avellone spoke his side of things, wonder if we'll hear anything now.

Though there really should have been jail time, to at least deter people from making false accusations like this, or worse false rape accusations that can really fuck an innocent man.


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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Mar 2023 12:56    Post subject:
So far only Forbes is mentioning this, but you can bet that many of those rabid sites won't offer much space for the update (if at all). Not only did they permanently damage Avellone (because we all know that once you're sentenced in the court of public opinion it's impossible to come back unscathed), but they effectively harmed all the real victims too - two birds with one extremely malicious lie.
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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Mar 2023 13:54    Post subject: *****
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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Mar 2023 16:08    Post subject:
Areius wrote:
ixigia wrote:
because we all know that once you're sentenced in the court of public opinion it's impossible to come back unscathed

Well, maybe not entirely unscathed, but it doesn't mean it's impossible to find work again, e.g. Mel Gibson and Johnny Depp.


Who are massively loved people. Chris is anonymous compared to grade A actors. But the fact that you can railroad peoples careers with lies to this degree without an ounce of accountability is sickening. Can't risk the integrity of the metoo movement you know, some casualties are expected.
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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Mar 2023 16:23    Post subject:
free kevin spacey and delete the last season of house of cards from existence


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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Mar 2023 19:22    Post subject:
Government goes easy on women for pretty primal reasons, in the state's view women are more valuable resources because one takes about a year to produce a baby, while u only need one man to produce a nation of them in a year if given enough hoes.
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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Mar 2023 21:43    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Mar 2023 05:12    Post subject:
Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

Avelone should go scorched earth on these cunts like Hulk Hogan did on gawker
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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Mar 2023 08:20    Post subject:
thats why there are lawyers, its always polite upfront for image purposes


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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Mar 2023 10:07    Post subject:
I know it won't happen, but Chris should go after woke media publications, that dragged his name through the mud.
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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Mar 2023 10:09    Post subject:
Nice eurosocjus article:
https://www.eurogamer.net/chris-avellone-resolves-sexual-misconduct-allegations-claiming-a-seven-figure-payment

Confusing headline, blurred picture, the works (including needing someone at the comments doing the legwork the site didn't do, quoted below).

Quote:
Seeing a lot of people confused because the article is terribly unclear; but here goes for anyone confused :

AVELLONE was accused of sexual misconduct, sexual assault, sexual abuse, domestic abuse, spiking women and preying on under-age girls by a person on twitter he routinely met pseudo-romantically a few times over a decade at cons related to video-games.

He lost his two jobs after those accusations and was practically blacklisted from the industry.

Soon after this event, he sued Karissa BARROWS ( the person who made the initial claims on twitter ) and her friend Kelly BRISTOL for 6 different counts of libel; to the suit, was also added around 100 "Jane DOES" who had further spread the claims publicly.

What followed was a lot of plateauing from the defending parties; both tried to strike down the libel suit, which failed, and both tried to get the suit moved to their respective state; Barrows failed, Bristol moved her suit to Oklahoma.

Avellone then launched two other suits.
The first one, against Bristol, awarded him a little more than 6K after Bristol ignored it completely.

The second one is the suit we're now seeing the end of, which was against the original accuser Karissa BARROWS.
Avellone seeked reparations for the damages that was TBD in court, the entirety of his legal fees to be reimbursed by Barrows and the allegations to be formally retracted in the form of an apologetic statement.

From that point, absolutely nothing went Barrows' way; the only two witnesses she named on record completely threw out her accusations out the window, and elements that are still unreleased to the public were apparently shown to also be in disfavour of Barrows' claims.

What you're seeing now is the defendant salvaging on Avellone's terms before an official ruling that would hurt just as bad financially, but also ( and critically ) leave her open to subsequent lawsuits.

Yes, the wording of the statement feels forced, that's because it's required for these statements to be written solely by lawyers to make sure the wording is exact to avoid further legal problems ( For example, not saying that they lied, but that their claims were misrepresented ).

Think of the results as you will, but this isn't one of those "insufficient evidence" cases, all the evidence points to one person lying, all witnesses ( From both sides ) disproved Barrows claims, and pieces of evidence that are still unreleased to the public were apparently pretty damning for Barrows.

All of the following sources were removed because it tripped Eurogamer's automod and the comment isn't get validated while more and more people are getting confused by the article :

Here are Avellone's detailed statement prior to the suits :
Someone unrelated to both parties who witnesses the relationship :

Two articles from a website i really don't know but was more detailled than any of the mainstream :
Initial suit :
First follow-up :


Not suspicious at all Laughing


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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Mar 2023 10:44    Post subject:
Saw that earlier today, along with the comments of people pointing out the same thing. Shameful
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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Mar 2023 11:12    Post subject:
It's the era of 'we can say whatever the fuck we want without taking any responsibilities'.


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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Mar 2023 11:16    Post subject:
blackeyedboy wrote:
It's the era of 'we can say whatever the fuck we want without taking any responsibilities'.


No. It is the era of "we can say whatever the heck we want, we can destroy whomever we want, no evidence needed, SO LONG AS IT FITS WITH WOKE NARRATIVE".

Shame on all gaming journos, who took part in this. Shame on them all.

And fuck them for doing politics instead of covering games.
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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Mar 2023 11:46    Post subject:
no matter how much acquitted u get there will always be a little bit of doubt left that willl never get erased from peoples memory


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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Mar 2023 12:06    Post subject:
This seems pretty clear cut to me? If it were me, I'd be looking to litigate against those trash "gaming journalism" sites you guys read and post here next.

These kinds of stories are slowing down now that several of these cases have been proven in the courts to be false and defamatory. I've also seen several of these scenario's where the accused immediately lawyers up and the accuser changes their story or apologizes.


but yeah.. fuck all these "guilty until proven innocent" people that seemingly make up the majority in the face of a tweet and emoji.
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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Mar 2023 13:40    Post subject:
Radicalus wrote:
…SO LONG AS IT FITS WITH WOKE NARRATIVE"

I keep getting told there is no narrative!? Whatever do you mean? Smile


couleur wrote:
Everything I don't understand is a mental disorder. Laughing

couleur wrote:
If the illegals are drowning its their fault for attempting to cross the river in the first place. Especially the children. /s

russ80 wrote:
Who cares about gameplay. It's one of the few next-gen looking titles out there so BRING IT ON.
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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Mar 2023 13:46    Post subject:
Yeah no clue. I made similar arguments the other day and there was no end of shit thrown my way Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Mar 2023 17:48    Post subject:
It is a specific pipeline:

- It is not happening, it doesn't exist, why do you care?
- It is not happening, but maybe it should
- Ok it might be happening
- Yes it is happening and here is why it is a good thing
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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Mar 2023 18:26    Post subject:
Laughing


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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Mar 2023 13:28    Post subject:
Previous statements by the mentally ill bitches:

"Chris Avellone is an abusive, abrasive, conniving sexual predator.
“He’s fucking disgusting, but he did not rape me,” she said. “He assaulted me, 100 percent, but I stopped him"


After 2 years and ending with a settlement, since they knew they were royally fucked:

"Mr. Avellone never sexually abused either of us. We have no knowledge that he has ever sexually abused any women. We have no knowledge that Mr. Avellone has ever misused corporate funds. Anything we have previously said or written about Mr. Avellone to the contrary was not our intent."


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typical jew comment
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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Mar 2023 14:45    Post subject:
But remember to believe all women Awesome


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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Mar 2023 16:02    Post subject:
You will never know the true story.

Maybe our boi Avellone, like any normal decent male that has feelings and receives apparent positive responses to his advances, grabbed her ass for a second, one day. And this lead to the catastrophic 'assault' claims she / they made about it?

Maybe our boi Avellone managed to persuade the plaintiff(s) - with a gun to their head - to drop the charges, even if real.

You'll never know, mates, you'll never know.

Just... don't be so gullible, McFly!®

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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Mar 2023 16:51    Post subject:
Glad i've never bought/supported anything from Techland. All it takes for them is a random woman on the internet says something and they'll cancel you because this random person who they have no idea of who it is (if she's even real etc) is worth 1000 times more than any male employee/hire..

Even if he had been guilty it's unacceptable to let the internet act as a court of law.
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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Mar 2023 17:42    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
Even if he had been guilty it's unacceptable to let the internet act as a court of law.


I 100% agree with this. Why I avoid Social Media.
For the little bit of usefulness it has on keeping up with things (which I can just find elsewhere at the source), if you use it in any regularity you eventually end up being shown some situation where the internet users are bickering about public opinion and judgement of something they should be having no part in handing out pitchforks for.
The most pedantic things like this, or silly celebrity gossip and finger wagging at it based on 240 characters of someone else opinion on it..etc. Or whole groups of people condemning/condoning some famous person being accused of doing some random thing.

As it feels twitter/facebook/whatever is 75% full of people looking/willing to join in on gossip thirsty judgement mobs (for or against) shouting their opinion into the void simply because they can throw it to everyone in world, in the hopes some read it and nods approvingly at them for saying it.


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