The Steam Deck thread
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Frolsa84




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Nov 2022 13:14    Post subject:
Also, what the fuck is the point of buying the 256 or 512gb version when you can just replace the eMMC with an NVMe for the fraction of the price?
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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Nov 2022 15:26    Post subject:
Is that the only difference though? The SSD?
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sanchin




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Nov 2022 18:16    Post subject:
Apparently - yes. At least between the 256 and 512gb versions. And from what I've heard - warranty is not void if you replace the "disk" by yourself, unless you break something of course.
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Nodrim




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Nov 2022 18:58    Post subject:
512gb version also has glare protection.
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Nov 2022 23:06    Post subject:
Frolsa84 wrote:
Also, what the fuck is the point of buying the 256 or 512gb version when you can just replace the eMMC with an NVMe for the fraction of the price?


You don't even need that, the difference between playing on internal memory vs microSD is barely anything.

https://www.scorptec.com.au/product/flash-memory/micro-sd-cards/94703-mb-mc512ka-apc

I bought the 256GB version and put a 512GB SD in it. Since I saw the difference first hand, I decided not to even bother with replacing the drive.
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Bendi




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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Dec 2022 16:25    Post subject:
No difference between the 64 and 256 version when it comes to hardware, 512 has etched glass antiglare screen. Opinions about it are varied. I personally disliked it so I scalped my Deck in May and queued again for a 64gb version.


sin317 wrote:

typical jew comment
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Dec 2022 00:51    Post subject:
I bought Ni No Kuni on the Switch a while ago and gave up because it ran like shit and looked like old arse.

On the Deck, the difference is night and day. So smooth and detailed. Max details + better controls too.

I've finished 4 more games in the past week. I love it!
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Dec 2022 11:01    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
I've finished 4 more games in the past week. I love it!

which ones?


http://i.imgur.com/SYIa3w4.png
http://i.imgur.com/PtROKGv.gif
Sometimes i just want to see NFOHUMP burn \o/
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Dec 2022 23:00    Post subject:
Sigh, I went into the rabbit hole of Steam Deck videos after watching one by accident since it was recommended on YouTube for me...

Needless to say, a Steam Deck was ordered today. Whistle me elmo
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Dec 2022 23:41    Post subject:
I used the SteamDB tool to see my split between gaming operating systems. Linux (the Deck) was listed at over 400hrs since August

It's worth it!

prudislav wrote:
Interinactive wrote:
I've finished 4 more games in the past week. I love it!

which ones?


Can't remember now. Some CODs, some emulated games, Life is Strange DLC most likely

Currently doing Crisis Core + Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine + Life is Strange 2, then going to move on to Persona 4. Trying to limit to 2-3 games at a time or it becomes a chore

Final Fantasy IX + Migori mod + 60FPS mod also looks great on the deck
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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Dec 2022 10:22    Post subject:
Inter, are there any tutorials for Steam Deck beginners that you used and vouch for? There are a shit ton of them on YT, but I can't verify if they're any decent or not.

I'll be mainly using it for older games and emulation etc. Very Happy
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OrignalSpaceJockey




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Dec 2022 10:54    Post subject:
Neon wrote:
Inter, are there any tutorials for Steam Deck beginners that you used and vouch for? There are a shit ton of them on YT, but I can't verify if they're any decent or not.

I'll be mainly using it for older games and emulation etc. Very Happy


Start here :

https://www.reddit.com/r/Roms/comments/uw0cfn/steam_emudeck_rom_files/
https://www.emudeck.com/#how_to_install


And get a bluetooth keyboard and mouse for your deck if you haven't already. It helps alot in desktop mode.

Also, follow this guide to install proton GE:

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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Dec 2022 11:13    Post subject:
how are u guys coping with the tiny screen ? were not getting any younger u know Sad

maybe if next version is 2 more inches larger ill think about it, staring at those huge bezzles will just drive me mad
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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Dec 2022 11:56    Post subject:
The tiny screen is fine for certain games. I started Persona 4 tonight, it's perfect for it. But a game like RDR2, A Plague Tale, Mankind Divided or Cyberpunk would be awful. There's too much detail and you'd miss a lot of stuff.

Anyone remember the wild life hunting in RDR2? That sort of thing would be a nightmare on the Deck. Finding some of those birds would be like 'hunt for the red pixel'. Unless you don't have a gaming PC for your Steam games, I wouldn't squander great experiences on a handheld. Using A Plague Tale as an example again (Requiem) - playing at 30FPS with reduced detail at a low res is a waste of such a beautiful game.

PickupArtist wrote:
maybe if next version is 2 more inches larger ill think about it, staring at those huge bezzles will just drive me mad


All I want is games running faster. Many good ones are *just* on the cusp of running well. Like a Dragon is one I'd have to play at 40hz/40FPS, but I'd rather not.

Neon wrote:
Inter, are there any tutorials for Steam Deck beginners that you used and vouch for? There are a shit ton of them on YT, but I can't verify if they're any decent or not.

I'll be mainly using it for older games and emulation etc. Very Happy


Not really, a friend got a Deck at the same time and we just kept finding new stuff and telling each other. It's super simple though. Linux is enough like Windows these days, ImmOOO, and Valve have simplified a lot of things. What I think would be most helpful to learn about:
  • How to enable Proton experimental (used for 'unsupported' games, launchers and mods)
  • Shortcuts, like being able to open the keyboard at any time
  • Enabling other people's controller profiles in games (highly useful!) and creating your own
  • Jumping between desktop mode and gaming mode. And while a mouse + KB is easier, I'd also recommend getting used to the Deck touchpads for controlling the cursor. I've been in hotels, airports etc where I don't have those things handy, so it pays to be able to do it efficiently with what's built in
  • For roms, all I did was install EmuDeck. Then I put the games in the generated roms folder. Everything else is configured and automated
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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Dec 2022 12:05    Post subject:
One other thing, I follow these channels:

https://www.youtube.com/@SteamDeckGaming
https://www.youtube.com/@DeckWizard
https://www.youtube.com/@pcgamingit

Every day they've got different games running on the Deck, so you get a really good idea of what runs well without having to download and test every game you own. They test new releases fairly quickly as well as emulation. You can also go through their old videos to create a sort of 'Deck backlog' in preparation for later.

There's another channel called Maxgamestech or something, but he puts 40hz on a lot of games that run well at 60hz. It's so dumb. If it works at 60, it'll work at 40, I don't get it. So I unsubbed.
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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Dec 2022 13:34    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
One other thing, I follow these channels:

https://www.youtube.com/@SteamDeckGaming
https://www.youtube.com/@DeckWizard
https://www.youtube.com/@pcgamingit

Every day they've got different games running on the Deck, so you get a really good idea of what runs well without having to download and test every game you own. They test new releases fairly quickly as well as emulation. You can also go through their old videos to create a sort of 'Deck backlog' in preparation for later.

There's another channel called Maxgamestech or something, but he puts 40hz on a lot of games that run well at 60hz. It's so dumb. If it works at 60, it'll work at 40, I don't get it. So I unsubbed.


Maybe he put them in 40hz for better battery life? A "heavy" 60 hz game can drain the battery in one hour.
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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Dec 2022 22:28    Post subject:
It's still a redundant thing to do, if it can run well at 60 frames, then 40hz is going to work for whatever reason. He does a lot of Switch game videos too, but for the Switch it makes sense to test both as there's a performance difference docked vs handheld
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OrignalSpaceJockey




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Dec 2022 23:50    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
It's still a redundant thing to do, if it can run well at 60 frames, then 40hz is going to work for whatever reason. He does a lot of Switch game videos too, but for the Switch it makes sense to test both as there's a performance difference docked vs handheld

Ah okay.
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Bendi




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PostPosted: Sat, 31st Dec 2022 04:08    Post subject:
Some games still have 30/60 fps locks, and some just work weird at 40 (physics get wonky or they slow down). It's usually older titles or janky remasters. I recently played a game that worked 2 times slower at 40hz, while it had no problems with a 30 fps lock with 60hz refresh.

So it's not completely redundant, although I don't know if the youtuber in question had that aspect in mind.
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PostPosted: Sat, 31st Dec 2022 11:53    Post subject:
Another 'Deck verified' issue, this time with Persona 4. A seven month old problem still persists and it's still marked as verified on the Store:

https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/uwonpv/persona_4_golden_playback_issues/

I found one version of Proton GE that worked, but then the FPS would tank randomly. I didn't even realise how broken it was until I restarted the game with the semi-working version. Audio / subtitles were playing where it was previously silent.

Thankfully it's supposed to be getting a refresh on Jan 18 (when Persona 3 Portable hits Steam), so hopefully those updates / QOL fixes solve it:

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1113000?emclan=103582791467557954&emgid=3638375952811795809
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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Jan 2023 16:21    Post subject:
Huh, they really ramped up the productions of these. Very Happy I ordered one late evening on December 29th, and today I got the shipping number already. Very Happy
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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Jan 2023 16:23    Post subject:
or they just not selling anymore Razz
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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Jan 2023 23:54    Post subject:
I think if that were true, they'd start selling them in more regions. Still can't order one from here without going through an overseas scalper
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sanchin




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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Jan 2023 11:27    Post subject:
Neon -> My brother ordered one a day before you and he just got it today so yours will probably arrive tomorrow Smile
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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Jan 2023 09:35    Post subject:
sanchin wrote:
Neon -> My brother ordered one a day before you and he just got it today so yours will probably arrive tomorrow Smile


It actually arrived today in the morning. It was in Poland yesterday though. Very Happy
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sanchin




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Jan 2023 14:41    Post subject:
Yeah, it took a day to get from Wrocław to next to Kraków for him. It got tp Poland on Monday.

He's having a blast, though not without problems. Apparently there is a common issue that the deck won't turn on when it's not plugged in, despite having enough charge. I've read that a possible solution is to let it drain entirely and charge afterwards to 'reset' the battery. Not sure if he tried it already
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PostPosted: Sun, 15th Jan 2023 21:46    Post subject:
Fuck, ever since I got the Deck I didn't touch my PC.

Finished AI: The Somnium Files, played a ton of Vampire Survivors, a little bit of Brotato. Currently early on in Cult of the Lamb and having a blast. I didn't even touch the emulation stuff yet.
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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Jan 2023 13:45    Post subject:
Neon wrote:
Fuck, ever since I got the Deck I didn't touch my PC. .



I set up a streaming PC for myself. Very Happy Sunshine+Moonlight ftw Very Happy


1) Lenovo Legion 7 (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H, RTX 3080 16Gb, 32Gb DDR4, SSD 1TB +2TB

2) SFFPC (streaming via Moonlight+ Sunshine)
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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Feb 2023 02:04    Post subject:
The only device I ever game on today Smile Pernickety as it is, lol, but brilliant. All my 'emu' and gaming needs on one device, and all under Linux. Who would have thought?
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th May 2023 03:43    Post subject:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1409300/Rendezvous/

Looks like a nice Deck game, released in the last day or so
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