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Methylphenidate or dextroamphetamine?
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Nalo
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| Posted: Fri, 31st Dec 2021 10:32 Post subject: |
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Nalo
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| Posted: Fri, 31st Dec 2021 10:38 Post subject: |
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vurt
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| Posted: Fri, 31st Dec 2021 10:47 Post subject: |
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| Nalo wrote: | @vurt When I was younger I had a period of taking tramadol or valium for a few months. Tramadol mixed with alcohol is quite something.
But for antidepressants I was under the impression that it takes weeks before the positive effects even begin. |
For me the effects has been instant (within hours), but yes i've also heard "it can take weeks", maybe it does for some.
A friend (RIP) used to take Tramadol and alcohol (usually just a beer), he's the only person i've heard of who's gotten a prescription of Tramadol for depression lol... they're not supposed to do that. He died of some new drug (by choice after his girlfriend took her own life).
Ritalin and other amphetamine derivatives were really nice, amphetamine too, but the sources we had were shit, you never knew what you were getting, what the filler was. You build up tolerance and you become a hardcore druggie or you quit. Does anyone who has Ritalin on prescription use it like you should i wonder lol, i've had friends who had it and they snorted it or used more than they should etc. I had a source for a while, i'm glad it was only a temporary one, really easy to get hooked.
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Il_Padrino
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| Posted: Fri, 31st Dec 2021 11:18 Post subject: |
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| Nalo wrote: |
But for antidepressants I was under the impression that it takes weeks before the positive effects even begin. |
I read somewhere that antidepressants actually start working almost immediately (like within 10-15 minutes after taking). It's the brain that needs time to adapt to the new feelings and the downward spiral being inversed, which could indeed take 1-2 weeks.
There must have been a door there in the wall, when I came in.
Truly gone fishing.
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Nalo
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| Posted: Fri, 31st Dec 2021 12:41 Post subject: |
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Ankh
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| Posted: Fri, 31st Dec 2021 15:12 Post subject: |
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They are called Concerta (Methylphenidate).
shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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| Posted: Fri, 31st Dec 2021 15:28 Post subject: |
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This turned into the junkies corner in a hurry
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vurt
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| Posted: Fri, 31st Dec 2021 15:56 Post subject: |
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| Nalo wrote: | | @vurt Tramadol for depression doesn't make much sense since it completely wipes you out. Sure it makes you feel good but you can't really function normally. I had a friend with a tramadol prescription because he broke his back in a car crash. I think it's supposed to be used for pain suppression. Incidentally he was also an alcoholic and died last year of liver failure. |
Not for me, I got very creative. First one was enough (worked for months), then i had to take two (effect got a little worse), then three and the effect got shitty and i got drowsy. The year that i used Tramadol i got more done, read more, learned more than what i normally do in 5+ years. I laid off for one year, tried again, effect wasn't like before at all, tried a few times over the years, nah.. Brain just got wired differently over time i guess.
My friend had the same effect initially too, then he just continued to use because he was a total addict now (hard to quit, he tried many times) and he had a prescription + he liked them with beer.
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Ankh
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| Posted: Fri, 31st Dec 2021 16:29 Post subject: |
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| Stormwolf wrote: | | This turned into the junkies corner in a hurry |
Junkies? I've got it legally.
shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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| Posted: Fri, 31st Dec 2021 16:48 Post subject: |
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| Stormwolf wrote: | | This turned into the junkies corner in a hurry |
Yes it seems there are more things that connect us.
I am the fluid junky.
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Nalo
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| Posted: Fri, 31st Dec 2021 17:30 Post subject: |
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You guys smoke da ganja?! Bomboclaat! 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Fri, 31st Dec 2021 19:55 Post subject: |
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| Nalo wrote: | I was probably taking too many at a time. I tend to be pretty creative naturally but on tramadol I would go into chill mode and then sleep for 12+ hours.  |
That's me in normal mode. I think I'm one of the people without a circadian rhythm or mines WAY off 24 hours.
I literally have zero sleep schedule, I'm tired? I go to sleep. I can sleep 4 hours, 14 hours..who knows? And it follows no pattern or rhythm. In any given week I can be going to sleep at 2pm, 9am, 4am, midnight, 6pm roll the dice and see!
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
Disclaimer: Post made by me are of my own creation. A delusional mind relayed in text form.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Fri, 31st Dec 2021 20:48 Post subject: |
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You can borrow from your sleeping schedule, but you can never steal.
(not mine)
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| Nalo wrote: | | @vurt Tramadol for depression doesn't make much sense since it completely wipes you out. Sure it makes you feel good but you can't really function normally. I had a friend with a tramadol prescription because he broke his back in a car crash. I think it's supposed to be used for pain suppression. Incidentally he was also an alcoholic and died last year of liver failure. |
They actually did try Tramadol against depression because of it's effects on dopamine and serotonin. It was a really bad idea since Tramadol, being a synthetic and stronger analogue of codeine, is highly addictive and have an immense addictive potential since the effect from the same dose tend to wane a bit quite fast and stronger doses are needed, at least for it's painkilling (and pleasure) effect.
Latest study is about trying out ketamine against severe depression.
(all this took/is taking place in Sweden)
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
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