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im the son of a former president, i sell tshirts now, look at me, im the shit ! Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Oct 2021 18:04    Post subject:
dethy wrote:
Donny Trumpy Jr. was fast to release this tshirt:

https://shopdonjr.com/collections/apparel/products/guns-dont-kill-people-mens-apparel-1


vurt wrote:
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The Right aren't like the Left or like Baldwin, if they were they would be celebrating... i've seen a few harsh jokes, but not people celebrating.


I mean, Trump jr. ist not like "the right", because that thing doesn't exist, but if he were part of what some people consider "the right", then I guess this is just a harsh joke. So totally acceptable for the morally superior right.

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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Oct 2021 19:01    Post subject:
Tasteless and really harsh for sure, but he probably needs the money, right? Wink

They just got the best meme in the world which is the Let's Go Brandon one, he should stick to that...

Now.. can they also find a celebrity which will hold Biden's bloody and cut off (fake)head? That's the question... i'm thinking no.
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Oct 2021 19:06    Post subject:
DXWarlock wrote:
who mocks a person involved in a tragedy for smug political ego points?


Confused It's straight up business. Cash in while it's hot. Alec Baldwin being a vocal anti-gun guy, it's just sweet ol' titties with thick, green milk.

He also tries to be the front guy of the Trump's way of making big money out of vaporous concepts.

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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Oct 2021 19:13    Post subject:
Yep, I can easily saw the same happening if this incident had happened to some hollywood/famous asshole on the "other side". Difference is, the merch sellers probably wouldn't have their facebook/twat-ter/youtube accounts banned but instead filled with links to said merch Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Oct 2021 19:17    Post subject:
i wonder if a defamation suit is possible for such a thing. hope baldwin trows another courtcase at these trump cockroaches, cause thats the only thing that will get us rid of trump, an avalanche of courtcases so they go broke on lawyer fees
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Oct 2021 19:32    Post subject:
it's nothing in comparison to what people like Baldwin and other left nut jobs has said about conservatives or Trump over the years, lies, slander, numerous death threats.

Here's one i found from Baldwin;

https://twitter.com/AlecBaldwin/status/1328107093111558144?

not sure how easy it is to prosecute for slander, which i think Trump should do, but probably it's like in Sweden, it's difficult to go anywhere with it..

you should post this in the Gnat thread btw (well, me too, but someone else started with politics this time Razz )
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Its pretty obvious that when you divide the world in left and right, and make a pars pro toto from every supposed individual to the whole group, you'll end up with both being the absolute moral worst.

Its especially embarassing when the foremost representatives of your faction act like absolute garbage but you absolutely have to defend them, because you of course, know that your group as a whole is morally superior. But when the others do it, its obviously in their nature to be bad, otherwise, why would they be the other group.

edit: Perfect example here: Baldwin writes garbage on Trump on twitter. He's an asshole. So now that makes it ok for Trump Jr. to sell these T-Shirts after a woman was killed by Baldwin in an accident? OF COURSE. HES OUR GLORIOUS LEADER AND BY DEFINITION MORALLY SUPERIOR.

edit: We should probably start collecting tweets of garbage people throwing garbage at each other to see who comes out on top and threw the most garbage, because that means the other side is just morally superior. Their garbage was less garbage. Wow garbage people, living in a garbage world.




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It could be, maybe, I don't know. Surely it must be. THEY control the media.


edit3: This forum really steps up its game in the political departement. I haven't had such deep insight into politics since I last saw one of my wifes intelligent women magazines about british royal assholes. Pretty deep anal isis.

"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Oct 2021 20:16    Post subject:
Confused
Nononono get it right: j00z control the media AND the banks
Wokémons control big tech and sillicon valley (they even had a big party of some CEO trooning out a few weeks back Laughing)

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tonizito wrote:
Confused
Nononono get it right: j00z control the media AND the banks
Wokémons control big tech and sillicon valley (they even had a big party of some CEO trooning out a few weeks back Laughing)


And wokemons and the left, is the same right? Or were you talking about the juice? Are they also the left?

"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2021 05:06    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
it's nothing in comparison to what people like Baldwin and other left nut jobs has said about conservatives or Trump over the years, lies, slander, numerous death threats.

Here's one i found from Baldwin;

https://twitter.com/AlecBaldwin/status/1328107093111558144?

not sure how easy it is to prosecute for slander, which i think Trump should do, but probably it's like in Sweden, it's difficult to go anywhere with it..

you should post this in the Gnat thread btw (well, me too, but someone else started with politics this time Razz )


Wow... just wow..

"...and other left nut jobs has said about conservatives or Trump over the years, lies, slander, numerous death threats. "

Lies and slander against Trump? Oh no, that's horrible. Laughing

Trump is so far the worst liar in the history of American Presidents. Being the narcissist that he is he just couldn't help himself.

Really vurt, just no...

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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2021 05:07    Post subject:
couleur wrote:
tonizito wrote:
Confused
Nononono get it right: j00z control the media AND the banks
Wokémons control big tech and sillicon valley (they even had a big party of some CEO trooning out a few weeks back Laughing)


And wokemons and the left, is the same right? Or were you talking about the juice? Are they also the left?


Everyone that cares about justice and equality are "far left" these days. Apparently... according to people that have sucked up all the alt-right social media propaganda over the years anyway.

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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2021 05:25    Post subject:
couleur wrote:
Its pretty obvious that when you divide the world in left and right, and make a pars pro toto from every supposed individual to the whole group, you'll end up with both being the absolute moral worst.

Its especially embarassing when the foremost representatives of your faction act like absolute garbage but you absolutely have to defend them, because you of course, know that your group as a whole is morally superior. But when the others do it, its obviously in their nature to be bad, otherwise, why would they be the other group.

edit: Perfect example here: Baldwin writes garbage on Trump on twitter. He's an asshole. So now that makes it ok for Trump Jr. to sell these T-Shirts after a woman was killed by Baldwin in an accident? OF COURSE. HES OUR GLORIOUS LEADER AND BY DEFINITION MORALLY SUPERIOR.

edit: We should probably start collecting tweets of garbage people throwing garbage at each other to see who comes out on top and threw the most garbage, because that means the other side is just morally superior. Their garbage was less garbage. Wow garbage people, living in a garbage world.




@tonizito

It could be, maybe, I don't know. Surely it must be. THEY control the media.


edit3: This forum really steps up its game in the political departement. I haven't had such deep insight into politics since I last saw one of my wifes intelligent women magazines about british royal assholes. Pretty deep anal isis.


I honestly don't know how anyone can be on any extreme left and enjoy it. I mean, one small tiny misstep and they'll grind you and your life to dust
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2021 05:30    Post subject:
I don’t know any people who are on any extreme left or right like that, personally. Do you? I only see people talking about these things online constantly. In real life I don‘t see these extremes. The extreme left and right parties are tiny minorities anyway and I don’t have an insight into how they treat each other for missteps. I don’t live in twitterverse either so that could be why I‘m missing all these things.

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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2021 05:36    Post subject:
I personally don't have any friend/acquaintance that is extreme left or right either. In fact, most don't seem themselves as left or right (ie. they don't identify with either group). I have opinions that stretch over the spectrum (not the extreme ends) as well as a strong dislike of ideas and ideological points of parties that covers the old 2-dimensional left<>right spectrum.

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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2021 05:53    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
I honestly don't know how anyone can be on any extreme left and enjoy it. I mean, one small tiny misstep and they'll grind you and your life to dust


I honestly don't know how anyone can be on any extreme either of them. Both 'sides' do this. Don't pretend the extremist of what is (communally) defined as left and right don't do the action of: IF you are not inline with exactly our beliefs we will ostrich and ruin you.

For every example of X group doing this, there is an example of the other side also eating their own for being 'weak' on something, or not strong enough on something...
That's the things with extremist no matter the jersey and manta they shout. They are...extreme. And anything less than their stalwart stance on a topic is seen as weak, flip-flopping, losing one's morals, or 'no true scotsman' logic. And WILL call you out to the rest to snarl and gawk at.

The only literal difference is if you lean towards them or not on if its "Fit Moral Judgement" or "Unjust Persecutions".

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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2021 06:06    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
vurt wrote:
it's nothing in comparison to what people like Baldwin and other left nut jobs has said about conservatives or Trump over the years, lies, slander, numerous death threats.

Here's one i found from Baldwin;

https://twitter.com/AlecBaldwin/status/1328107093111558144?

not sure how easy it is to prosecute for slander, which i think Trump should do, but probably it's like in Sweden, it's difficult to go anywhere with it..

you should post this in the Gnat thread btw (well, me too, but someone else started with politics this time Razz )


Wow... just wow..

"...and other left nut jobs has said about conservatives or Trump over the years, lies, slander, numerous death threats. "

Lies and slander against Trump? Oh no, that's horrible. Laughing

Trump is so far the worst liar in the history of American Presidents. Being the narcissist that he is he just couldn't help himself.

Really vurt, just no...


Really Frant, just no.

And yes slander and lies is horrible, i can understand you think it's acceptable because it's usually all you people have (see Baldwins typical nazi labeling + speaking of burying him - how is that adding something? it's just hate, it's not serious arguments).

As for lies lol, hardly, not even close to what US has now, it's beyond despicable.

But whatever, we can discuss this for hours, months, years, and it'll still just be a useless long rant and no conclusion of any sort. i'm going to try to shut my mouth about politics, wokeness etc. i know it's not exactly adding anything since very little of it is getting through anyways. Can't promise i will keep it but i will try Wink
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2021 06:34    Post subject:
But why are slander and lies only horrible when the others do it and never when your team does? In other words, you don’t like lies and slander but obviously support lies and slander at the same time.

Or is it just lies and slander when it comes from the liesandslander region of France but when it comes from *insertyourideologyhere its just rethorics and self defense because you’re the underdog?

At least be consistent.

Btw. Why would Frant have to answer for Baldwins tweets? Is he in the same „group“ of people?

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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2021 07:08    Post subject:
vurt wrote:

And yes slander and lies is horrible...

Let's start here with this statement as you state your stance on it with it. Why you silent when the ones you like, do it against those you don't?
Reviewing your posts, 99% of the time you comment with a subtle smirk when they do it to people you oppose. But when the other 'side' does it you are 99% of the time vocal about how immoral and childish it is.

ANYONE doing it regardless if they sleep in your political bed, is bad.

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Impressive how much bs you put into this subject Very Happy

Edit: for clarification - not aimed at anyone specific for what you have said Very Happy

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Ankh wrote:
Edit: for clarification - not aimed at anyone specific for what you have said Very Happy
Too late nigga, now you've done it Troll Dad

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tonizito wrote:
Ankh wrote:
Edit: for clarification - not aimed at anyone specific for what you have said Very Happy
Too late nigga, now you've done it Troll Dad


lol i can live with that Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Oct 2021 06:55    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
Frant wrote:
vurt wrote:
it's nothing in comparison to what people like Baldwin and other left nut jobs has said about conservatives or Trump over the years, lies, slander, numerous death threats.

Here's one i found from Baldwin;

https://twitter.com/AlecBaldwin/status/1328107093111558144?

not sure how easy it is to prosecute for slander, which i think Trump should do, but probably it's like in Sweden, it's difficult to go anywhere with it..

you should post this in the Gnat thread btw (well, me too, but someone else started with politics this time Razz )


Wow... just wow..

"...and other left nut jobs has said about conservatives or Trump over the years, lies, slander, numerous death threats. "

Lies and slander against Trump? Oh no, that's horrible. Laughing

Trump is so far the worst liar in the history of American Presidents. Being the narcissist that he is he just couldn't help himself.

Really vurt, just no...


Really Frant, just no.

And yes slander and lies is horrible, i can understand you think it's acceptable because it's usually all you people have (see Baldwins typical nazi labeling + speaking of burying him - how is that adding something? it's just hate, it's not serious arguments).

As for lies lol, hardly, not even close to what US has now, it's beyond despicable.

But whatever, we can discuss this for hours, months, years, and it'll still just be a useless long rant and no conclusion of any sort. i'm going to try to shut my mouth about politics, wokeness etc. i know it's not exactly adding anything since very little of it is getting through anyways. Can't promise i will keep it but i will try Wink


Who said I accept Baldwin's ramblings? I've already shared my opinion on Baldwin, I just don't care at all what people write on twatter. It's the most pointless and braindead form of social media where people write short posts with shit that they would usually never dare to actually say IRL.

And what the heck is this?
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because it's usually all you people have
?? Laughing

So I'm a woke far left nutjob to you? Laughing

You have the narrowest mind/view out of everyone on this board.

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