Does it have the same booting speed, or atleast faster on anything in comparison with 10?
Same boot speed, haven't noticed anything being faster that 10. Supposedly, the only performance-related changes are for hybrid CPU architectures like Alder Lake, which isn't out yet
Yup. It's the usual Frankenstein mish-mash clusterfuck of an OS that we have now come to expect from MS. They can paint it up all pretty as much as they want, but it's still the same old bloated shit underneath, copied and pasted from OS long gone by, all the way back to Windows 2000. Nothing new here, we move on
However, there are also some Windows 11 taskbar changes that have upset Windows fans, including Microsoft's decision to lock the taskbar to the bottom of the screen and prevent users from dragging and dropping apps, shortcuts, or files onto the taskbar.
What!??!? How dumb are they? I guess we'll see tons of toolbar apps to drop apps, shortcuts etc. on. On the Amiga the taskbar only showed Workbench version (WB = the software portion of the OS), Chip RAM and Slow/Fast RAM. When you right click on the Amiga taskbar you get basic built-in system items. There were many toolbars for launching apps etc. but MUI (Magic User Interface) was basically the standard:
That was in 1993, before Windows 95 was released.
By comparison, this is what MacOS 7.1.1 (and pretty much Atari ST) and Windows 3.11 looked like the same year:
I knew MS had lost the plot just before Windows 8, but, they are going full out now, WTF!!?? They must be on the shit 'grass' lol...
I 'seriously' didn't think it could get any worse than 10?, and I know I've bleated on about it enough, but lol, really? What a fuckin mess this shit is, and very sad to see actually, but they only have themselves to blame A clusterfuck mess, that needs binned, and a new 'drawing board' started right away, without any of these fuckwits near it.
Windows 7 will probably be the last great OS you will ever see from them.
So ppl told us TPM would never be used for DRM in windows 11 (or anti cheat in this case which is just a tiny step away from it) but looks like it's already happening:
...and this is just the beginning Seriously, enjoy what you have now, as it's gonna be painful from now on, VERY! Thank fuck I'm nearly past it @ 58, so good luck to those who ain't
So ppl told us TPM would never be used for DRM in windows 11 (or anti cheat in this case which is just a tiny step away from it) but looks like it's already happening:
Have fun buying a new mobo if you get flagged for cheating somehow and i can't wait for Denuvo with a TPM and secure boot requirement.
So if you have a mobo and cpu which has tpm 2.0 and you have installed win 11 without tpm check you can be a banned already? And when if you install win 11 normally later. Are you already flagged by then?
So ppl told us TPM would never be used for DRM in windows 11 (or anti cheat in this case which is just a tiny step away from it) but looks like it's already happening:
Have fun buying a new mobo if you get flagged for cheating somehow and i can't wait for Denuvo with a TPM and secure boot requirement.
So if you have a mobo and cpu which has tpm 2.0 and you have installed win 11 without tpm check you can be a banned already? And when if you install win 11 normally later. Are you already flagged by then?
So just reset your TPM keys. So just use the service .exe of the windows 10 version. So just install a modified windows 11 without tpm/secureboot.
scaramonga wrote:
I knew MS had lost the plot just before Windows 8, but, they are going full out now, WTF!!?? They must be on the shit 'grass' lol...
I 'seriously' didn't think it could get any worse than 10?, and I know I've bleated on about it enough, but lol, really? What a fuckin mess this shit is, and very sad to see actually, but they only have themselves to blame A clusterfuck mess, that needs binned, and a new 'drawing board' started right away, without any of these fuckwits near it.
Windows 7 will probably be the last great OS you will ever see from them.
Imagine thinking 7 is better than 8.1. Install a start menu replacement and enjoy a newer kernel with important updates and shell improvements that people think came in 10
While I can see many people will enjoy and appreciate the changes. being completely honest 95% of the things he points out in this video is backward progress for how I do work/use my windows personally.
And since 8.1 I swear MS goal with the start menu is to see how long they can make the scrollbar with dead space and useless items. Like windows 12 you will need a mouse with an unlockable scroll wheel you need to flick and free wheel to quickly get to a program that starts with anything past the letter C..
When I hit start, this is all I could ever need. This tiiiiny menu.
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It's a festering pile of dung. Nothing will ever change my mind on that, but it's been coming, and the quick release date, tells a far greater story with this nonsense.
MS lost the plot years ago, so it's not something that has happened overnight. Windows 11 is no surprise, apart from, there were supposed to be no iterations after 10. Windows X was scrapped, and suddenly that is what we now have (interface wise), on top of Bloato10, regurgitated into some mish-mash shit called 11. All pretty in pink, lol, but the same (no, it's worse!) garbage trash underneath. Most moaning about how 'Android' will not make it to the release copy?? WHO THE FUCK CARES!!!? I have no desire to have Android apps running on my PC, EVER!!! I have a fuckin phone and tablet for that. Fuck you very much MS!, no thanks. Start menu designed by someone who has been in a bad road accident, and not come out of a coma, Fuck you very much MS!, no thanks. Taskbar all fucked up, with not much being allowed to be pinned to it, despite outrage at this, Fuck you very much MS!, no thanks. TPM shit, lol, Fuck you very much MS!, no thanks, as I'll decide when my motherboard/system is out of date, and not you! Fuck you very much MS!
Not sure how anyone didnt expect this.
MS pattern seems to be "Good, not good" over and over for home user versions.
Windows 95 = good (compared to 3/3.11 functionality)
Windows 98 = not so good.
Windows 98 SE = Good
Windows Me = not so good.
Windows XP = Good.
Windows Vista = not so good.
Windows 7 = Good
Windows 8 = not so good.
Windows 10 = Good.
Next version...not so good.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
Disclaimer: Post made by me are of my own creation. A delusional mind relayed in text form.
Windows 95 = good (compared to 3/3.11 functionality)
Windows 98 = not so good.
Windows 98 SE = Good
Windows Me = not so good.
Windows XP = Good.
Windows Vista = not so good.
Windows 7 = Good
Windows 8 = not so good.
Windows 8.1 = Good
Windows 10 = not so good.
Windows 10 CU = better.
Windows 11 = LOL?!
@Shocktrooper
I didnt list it or any of the servers because it wasn't 'home user' version is all.
2003 I think is the best Windows server OS (for its time) followed by 2008 SP 2.
Never have a LICK of problems for them running years at a time in clients server racks for my job. Without reboots or any downtime other than quarterly for windows updates.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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I remember Windows 2000 had slow adoption rate mostly due to the (lack of) drivers. Super-serious professionals were on Windows NT 4.0, Windows 9x ruled the gaming part of PC, and once manufacturers started to actually write the drivers for Win2k, WinXP (which was essentially pimped-up Win2K with better DirectX integration) was already around the corner.
Windows 2000 had a good support for NT4 drivers. Man, Windows 2000 was an excellent OS. It was so stable and fast, had none of the retarded issues of 9x and ME. Most games ran fine, once GPU drivers were released. I think there was even legacy support for 9x drivers, but that didn't work that well. Some games (ab)used stuff from the OS that was not available in 2000, like the lackluster memory model of 9x, so those game were never supported.
Same with Windows Vista, to be honest. Some drivers were spotty, so people blamed it on Vista, but the OS was rock solid. 7 was an evolution of that, but most of the foundations that people praise as "7 was teh bestestest OS ever" came from Vista.
I must be getting old. Not one app, program, or feature that video has is anything I use (or need a dedicated 'app' for) on a PC. I even paused at 0:07 and went "dont use, dont use, no idea what that icon even is..nope dont use MS store..dont go to reddit, why do I need an app to load Wikipedia?".
Felt more like: Now you can sit down at a unmovable version of a phone. With huge screen hogging useless dedicated installed apps to load things you could in a browser before.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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Not sure how anyone didnt expect this.
MS pattern seems to be "Good, not good" over and over for home user versions.
Windows 95 = good (compared to 3/3.11 functionality)
Windows 98 = not so good.
Windows 98 SE = Good
Windows Me = not so good.
Windows XP = Good.
Windows Vista = not so good.
Windows 7 = Good
Windows 8 = not so good.
Windows 10 = Good.
Next version...not so good.
You forgot 8.1 in your crusade to make every second bad and good. 8.1 was quite decent.
Think that (like my list) is relative to each person. All of 8 was bad to me. the UI, ease of access to things[the lack of] drove me crazy. The full screen start menu with 60% dead space between each program itself ruined the whole OS for me
For work I have to work on some Server 2012 and Server 2012 R2 customers have (same as 8 /8.1 UI) boxes, and I cannot stand it anytime I need to do anything involving needing to click the start menu.
Like right now connected to a customer with it and working, this is the start menu, but only after you open another full screen window that is 10 huge icons and 95% useless blue background, to click a down arrow to load this fullscreen menu. This has to be the UGLIEST, most space wasting, full screen covering way to list 30 ish programs (and there is more, there is a scrollbar at the bottom to get to the rest! not enough room I guess to add them all ):
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Could put in classic start I suppose. But wasn't a version of it that worked 'right' when I tried 8.1 right after it came out. So just went back to 7.
And for work I cannot replace the start menu on clients servers.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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@skx7
Nearly all of them, at least 80% I work with. So newspapers, magazines, online news outlets, pdf to article news hubs, editorial for news websites that preflight images for the articles.
Also I know many stores do for sales transactions and tracking, online back ends for established (been around a while) vendors (some going back to windows server 2003)....oh and a good chunk of pornhub encode servers are either old linux/unix distros or 2012 R2.
Good luck not using the internet for a lot of things
And your cell phone too I suppose. Most major carriers have still working 1-2 generation old server OS's on some call transfer/tower handoff backend machines.
And also MANY MANY military server applications for many many nations. I know nearly all of the NAS base near me is running 2000/2003 on its data link/satcom servers.
I think you would be surprised the number of industries on old Server OS versions. Not just the ones I work with directly.
Gathering the cash to upgrade 100's (or thousands) of server OS's along with the time to do so on boxes that have been live and uptime for 2-3 years is a uphill battle. 'IF it works dont fix/mess with it'. Not to mention the enormous work involved to recreate the programs, settings, setup and content of those machines. And downtime to do so and risk of more downtime due to a quirk/change/incompatibility of what has worked for years rock solid. that's a MAJOR factor.
Many won't change until its EOL comes, which is October 10, 2023. Most JUST moved from 2008 R2 since its EOL was January 14, 2020.
And even then if it's not an external network exposed one, keep it longer.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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Can you disclose which company is still working with windows server 2012? Want to make sure I dont ever buy their products or services holy shit
I can second DXWarlock's point. Windows Server 2012 is damn popular as annoying the OS is. Heck even 2008 R2 is very popular as well. Gladly Windows Server 2008 (from Vista era) has almost gone for good.
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