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Frant
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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Jul 2021 10:31    Post subject: Frants Rants
Our civilization has generally stopped focusing on real progress, instead focusing on making our lives easier and more comfortable, replacing reading books with Netflix and M*rvel superhero stuff. A majority of us don't really need to be that intelligent to live comfortable lives and intelligent (highly educated) people make less babies than the average Jean and John Doe's. We'll never be able to force ourselves to give up many of our comforts in order to stop consumerism and in turn global warming and the increased number of natural disasters that continue to become more severe; our general greed and addiction to comfort is too strong; it's an instinct from when humans were hunter/gatherers many thousands of years ago when food and safety was scarce and survival was our main goal. Just in the last 100 years we've developed science, medicine, entertainment and technology in a rate that is higher than the last couple of millennia. We've gone too fast and are still controlled by those old instincts of survival, finding food etc. which leads to greed and ridiculous wealth for the people that happens to have a stronger instinct for hoarding such resources while other people are driven more by other instincts. We (as a species) have become our own worst enemy.

People with higher than average IQ are still dumb when mixed with general society since they're caught in the same trappings that the average person is and thus we'll keep making the same mistakes and there's no need for us to evolve anymore. We've "won" over natural selection.


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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Jul 2021 10:48    Post subject:
I can't hear your rant over the sound of netflix running in the background.


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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Jul 2021 11:02    Post subject:
Laughing Laughing


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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Jul 2021 11:38    Post subject:
What? You are just monkey with anxiety. There's no survival instinct in place to make overbuy things, it's your anxiety of being poor and worse than others that makes you buy things you don't really need to show your neighbour that you are better than him/or feel better about yourself that you can afford something.
Also late stage capitalism (Ho!).

Overbirth yourself with kids who needs stuff because it's cool to have stuff and if you don't have stuff you are not cool. Each will need to have each own house, car and need to eat which in the end takes land in one way or another to build the house, to build the plant, to feed the cow for ther burger, to plant the corn.

Stop breeding.


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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Jul 2021 12:34    Post subject:
Exactly... Eggs.


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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Jul 2021 12:42    Post subject:
Chicken noodles tbh
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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Jul 2021 13:22    Post subject:
Speaking of which, time to make something to eat.



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PostPosted: Wed, 21st Jul 2021 00:04    Post subject:
those are delicious. I keep eating them too
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PostPosted: Wed, 21st Jul 2021 01:07    Post subject:
They sure are. Just thinking about them makes me salivate (that capsaicin is definitely a drug).


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PostPosted: Wed, 21st Jul 2021 01:41    Post subject:
VonMisk wrote:
What? You are just monkey with anxiety. There's no survival instinct in place to make overbuy things, it's your anxiety of being poor and worse than others that makes you buy things you don't really need to show your neighbour that you are better than him/or feel better about yourself that you can afford something.
Also late stage capitalism (Ho!).

It's the core of the survival instinct. The same kind that makes us fat, because sugar and fats = important luxuries of survival that are the hardest to get. So we find them the most appealing..so with unlimited access to them and no natural limiter on them by having to work to find them. We overindulge.

There is a reason the chemical in the brain get released when you do it, it served a positive purpose at one point. It's a reward system being exploited in way it was never intended for: Accumulating 'things' misfires a similar survival instinct..The one of more things collected the more secure we feel in times of no availability of them.

We have advanced our civilization faster and have excess access to millions of things faster than that instinct can go away. And for some people the misfiring is more pleasurable than others, and go overboard.

It's why since recorded man those with the means to acquire things in far excess and wiring to do it in absurd levels, horde way more than they need, than those that can't. (Gold, Houses, Land, people in some cases...anything perceived as excess in stock is a reward trigger).
Hoarders are the people with no limit or filter on that desire to acquire.

Our wiring to do so birthed capitalism, not capitalism suddenly created/formed our desire to. (And just one of the many reasons communism on a large scale doesn't work. We are wired to 'collect shinies' for our tribe..and tribes on that scale is not wired in everyone's monkey brain to truly grasp.)

It's why we buy things, because we are the only animal with a way to acquire many things with little effort to actually get them using an economy of trade..so its a shortcut/cross wiring of "No effort, ease of ability, more happy chemicals for me!"..Like why oak trees grow so quickly in new areas, exploiting it in squirrels: they exploit squirrels every few years by dumping TONS of more acorns than usual and the squirrels will bury a magnitude more than they need, because they feel compelled to.


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PostPosted: Wed, 21st Jul 2021 10:13    Post subject:
Frant - listen to "P3 Dystopi - dumhet" on spotify.


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PostPosted: Wed, 21st Jul 2021 13:36    Post subject:
@Frant Did you have an epithany? Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 21st Jul 2021 15:23    Post subject:
topic does not exist, but i'm assuming you're talking about animalmother? Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 21st Jul 2021 16:50    Post subject:
Good rant Very Happy Immediately sparkled the memory of this scene....



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PostPosted: Wed, 21st Jul 2021 17:29    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
topic does not exist, but i'm assuming you're talking about animalmother? Laughing

The thread was moved to VIP section to spare some embarrassment from AM and his highfalutin and self-aggrandizing bullshit. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 21st Jul 2021 19:16    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Wed, 21st Jul 2021 21:55    Post subject:
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But if you made a bell curve of who falls for/believes in senseless far fetched information more or lacks cognitive skills on a more regular basis to filter out the noise, or a pie chart of the groups...which one have a bigger portion of it.
To say the intellectual people fall for it as as often, as hard, and in equal numbers as everyday average joe, is as silly as to say none of them do.

Its saying a false equivalence.
Its like saying since I have seen or known of doctors that are wrong about medical diagnosis and even botched surgeries, they are no more better at them than anyone.


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PostPosted: Wed, 21st Jul 2021 22:17    Post subject: Re: Frants Rants
Frant wrote:
M*rvel
wut


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i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Jul 2021 00:55    Post subject:
Again, a bell curve of IQ levels measured against how much they read of non-fiction and informative literature to gain that knowledge and be an intellectual, vs common man ...which one takes up most the middle? Sure everyone is on that chart, but where would the curve peak?
All you keep doing is pointing out the traits that that Intellectuals are majority in, and not that everyone being a part of that chart makes it equal across the board.
A venn diagram of those traits would overlap more with the highly intelligent ones, than the others. Pointing out they all HAVE overlap is ignoring the amount of overlap.

There are really smart people that believe dumb stuff, and average people that are profoundly insightful and analytical in process. BUT which is more commonly found if random samples was taken of both?
All groups ALL have some correlation very true, but in which is the correlation measurably stronger?


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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Jul 2021 02:07    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Jul 2021 19:59    Post subject:
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What DX said... Razz

If you dont believe that average people are more prone to believe profoundly easy to disprove stuff on average I dont know what to tell you.
Wait if you think its not true, then you should believe my profoundly easy to disprove stuff above..No matter which group you are in since chances are according to you, proportionally probable to be believed in, no matter the level if intellect.
You are breaking your own rule. Very Happy


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-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf

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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Jul 2021 16:42    Post subject:
I mean average, middle of the road, milk toast. perhaps its the vagueness of what it can means since there are different ways to get an average, so you dont know if I mean to say mean, median, or mode.

Im talking The mean; not median, or mode.

For the GWB quote..I mean it in the way this George Carlin quote does:
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realise half of them are stupider than that."


-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf

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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Jul 2021 17:05    Post subject:
There is intelligence and then there is thinking you're intelligent. There is no escaping the monkey inside. OOHOO AAHHAA
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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Jul 2021 17:19    Post subject:
Everyone thinks they are smarter than they are. All of us.
When polled people judged themselves overall above average in general.

And to me, humans are not smart. Just we have nothing to compare ourselves to higher than us to gauge it. Until very recently all our ways of making energy are really just "Burn stuff, make heat, boil water with it" even nuclear. And that even took us thousands of years to work out (since man started until the 1800's).

Like I still think the concept of what our ideal of 'advanced power' is being a dyson sphere would seem nearly caveman levels of ingenuity to actual advanced intelligence. Alien ship with actual intelligent people show up while we are building one:
"Captain, are they actually building a massive physical object, around their star, to close it in and grab what energy they can? That seems HIGHLY labor intensive, a lot of material, and missing the basics of how to produce energy."
"Yes..yes they are, but its the best they know how to do and took them 30,000 of their years to think of that, then another 1000 to start doing it".


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-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf

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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Jul 2021 17:22    Post subject:
It's our best understanding of the laws of physics and seem to be universal across the cosmos so we'll stick to it for now. Also happens to make certain few rich enough to buy politicians and make the system work for them first so even if there was an easier way we're still a long way from it. I honestly started believing that there should be a level cap to how many billions you can have before you start ruining the game for everyone else.
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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Jul 2021 17:27    Post subject:
Oh I agree, but thats the thing. its the best understanding we have.

It's like the first ape to use a stick to get termites probably thought he was the smartest thing in the world. That no higher level of insect extraction could be reached until the day they could work out making a stick with a scoop on the end..man thats the high tech dream, "stick with cup on end of." That must be how truly smart creatures gets food.
Our dyson sphere is our stick with cup.


-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf

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