If you forced me to buy a speaker at gun point I think I know what I would pick. But I wouldn't be certain if I picked wisely. I would have to test multiple options at the same time and that isn't easy either and could be pretty expensive. And I am no fan of returning stuff
Be wary too of the 'sound room' effect when comparing them.
Circuit City use to be REALLY bad for this. And I'm sure lots of places still do. I know Bose banks on it in best buy.
Either a 'listening room' they take you in with a setup meticulously arraigned in to sound amazing standing roughly where the salesman and you preview the system/speakers.
Then people get them home and put them in their different shaped living room in the same rough configuration and realize they don't sound AS good at home.
OR like Bose/BestBuy. Its a huge open store/warehouse that bigger actually good speakers sound less 'full' and a bit echoey when louder which people mistake for "muddled', which isnt a fault of the speakers its the store size mixed with 'just sit them on a item shelf' layout, but the little Bose next to it, with its purpose made display stand and design to only sound 'good' in a near field box area doesn't care if the store is huge and like a warehouse, it's made to sound 'pretty OK' in only a square area in front of them (that the Bose Display makes sure is directed towards standing ear level about 5 feet away).
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I am aware of many issues with rooms. If I were to really test listen to speakers, than only in my own room. Even if only to get enough time as well.
Btw, good speakers are good in more or less any typical room. Harman studies showed that speakers are ranked the same and evaluated similarly in a number of different rooms and different positions in those rooms.
By good speakers, I mean speakers, that are neutral on-axis, but neutral off-axis as well (falling towards higher frequencies is okay or perhaps desired). That way the direct and reflected sound from walls and such are similar tonally. This is a somewhat recent development. Good speaker companies design speakers this way nowadays. Its these characteristics that correlate with high subjective speaker ratings.
When it comes to speaker in rooms, there is one fundamental important thing, that is related to the shape and at least volume of the room. There is a split in two ranges of frequencies. For the higher frequencies the speaker determines the sound and in the lower region the room dominates. This frequency is called Schrödinger frequency, and often cited to be typically between 200 Hz and 300 Hz for domestic rooms. Above you want to EQ a speaker without reflections, which complicates measurements for end users. I'm not confident at what point you want to EQ based on in-room measurements actually, but subwoofers should be EQ'ed with in-room steady state measurements. Side note, in most cases you want to use a sub and more than one actually. In most rooms this is the easiest and most effective way to deal with room modes. Speakers can be as good as they want, bass response is determined by the room and position of the speakers and subs allow the necessary freedom to work with the room. This whole thing would probably help a large store to have a better sounding bass response, because the speaker is actually still in control.
Oh yea. Actually didn't know the term for that one, but was aware of it. Now I know it had a name
Can't count how many people would come when I did car stereo with a system the did themselves and complain the subs suck, or the bass is really only punchy in one small range, or just sounds bad from the front seats.
To have to point out they have the sub is a really odd place or facing the wrong way for that car shape, or something. We move them around testing a bit with a SPL meter and would sound 10x better. Some people buy $2000 worth of speakers and just toss them in at home by putting them in the the trunk facing the side or wherever they could push it to make room, and wonder why the can hear the car rattle from outside, but not much of the bass compared to what they expected, in the inside.
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I wonder If I will ever experiment with a sub in a car. I hope not
I believe you are statistically likely to get better bass response by throwing multiple subs in a space randomly. Though in a room you can just place one in each corner given a rectangular room. That said, are multiple subs in a car a thing in the scene? I usually see one large sub in the trunk. I wonder if it might make more sense to place on in the trunk and perhaps 2 under seats or something. For when the subs actually do some heavier lifting they will sum together nicely, so you should be able to get away with smaller subs. But the idea that multiple subs are easier to get good results also is a recent-ish development in the audio scene. Did you ever try that?
Well most people coming to car audio want "LOUD, SPL is King" not life like. A lot come for clear good sounding audio, but they are the minority. Most come for as many 12 or 15 inch subs as they can afford/fit and 3000+ watts of "I want to be deaf in 5 years" bass rattling car.
Like this:
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(Not the best example below, but the shortest to the point of loud=awesome one I could find).
And maybe its an American thing. But annoyingly loud rattle your teeth car audio is a huge scene. And I grew up as late teen early 20's in the 90's when it started and worked in a shop that did catered to just that for years..so even at 45 I still try to be part of it (My: Im still young and hip damnit! thing..lol)..why my hearing is fucked above about 12-13k hz and ears ring ALL the time now from 20+ years of it. I dont turn it up THAT loud anymore, but I still enjoy the hobby of having it/installing it/etc.
In that scene people with one sub is seen as "awww how cute, you got a little thumper in there don't ya..how precious" LOL. If it doesn't have a chance to rattle your rear view mirror off the windshield..go home and upgrade. It's a subculture thing I think that is mostly a US thing, there is whole events, meets and competitions for it (What I worked in mostly when I worked the car audio shop, I did the autophile installs too, but the bass heads was the bread and butter income).
These are what are in the back of my jeep, just happen to have pics from when I replaced the box a week ago. 15" dual coil 2 ohm subs (ignore the messy garage I had a lot of stuff pulled out to work on it):
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This is where I test fit the box to make sure it would fit. Before adding the amplifiers, those 2 subs in it, the two 8" for mid, and 6x9's + surface tweeters for mid-highs and highs. So I have NO trunk space anymore...in a jeep SUV.
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I think its because I grew up in it. The early/mid 90's of DJ magic mike, Techmaster PEB, etc
When stuff like this was popular. Back then I was that annoying kid that drove up with friends playing this at the gas station slightly making the lighters inside on the rack rattle, and glass bottles in the cooler with music like this:
(if ya dont have a sub or good speakers on your PC you wont hear lowend that is the point of this type of music):
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When lowriders with as many subs as you can fit into it was a 'thing'. It still is a thing (not so much the lowrider part anymore) but that time period it was THE thing for a lot of people.
Those two songs I use to love driving around with friends turned WAY up so it sounded like my car was about to rattle apart and cant see SHIT out the rear view mirror (its just all a blurry mess).
And its that idea of whatever you did in late teens early 20's you always have a fondness no matter how old you get I think on why I still 'do' it in my cars.
Now I don't go for the 'WHAT?? I cant hear you" to the passenger bass volume anymore. I still like HAVING the stuff that would do it if I turn it up.
But now, in my car at least, I just like good sounding system that has the ability to be a bit bass heavy for music if I'm in that mood, but I can hear the whole range of the song and it doesn't make my ears hurt. Like AC/DC or Rammstein with bass you can feel and good dynamic range of sound for the rest is fun to listen to while driving . Its like having a front row concert seat in your car. But now a day I cant get over like 15 volume out of 50 on my car stereo without it hurting my ears.
But I do have to admit I still do the petty displays of peacocking if someone else tries to flare feathers at a red light, if some 20 something with a little bump you can hear 2 cars over is sitting there and gives me the look ok "Oh look a middle aged man in a SUV, Check it out old man! I'm cool" and turns it up to show off. I'll turn mine up to like 40 for about 5-10 seconds so he cant even hear his own music in his own car, give him a thumbs up, a smile...and drive off.
Its the music version of having two muscle cars meet at a red light and one revs, so the other revs to strut their stuff. Or maybe more like gym rats that working out isn't even for the lure of chicks anymore. its all about flexing in front of the other gym rats what you deadlift is...I dunno.
Old habits die hard..LOL.
The weirdest part? Sometimes I listen to PBS (public talk radio) in my car at my age if Im not wanting music or stand up comedy. I don't turn it up loud..but like my wife joked:
"Do...you have like 3000 watts of speakers and subs in you car, to listen to old people talk radio??"
"...sometimes...yes.."
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As I said I was looking at headphones recently and I like the idea of (heavily equalized) Sennheiser HD800S with their angled drivers for a more speaker like sound stage. I wonder however if that feature also defeats an advantage of headphones. Does anyone have an idea what this does to binaural recordings or virtual surround sound in games? Does that have an adverse effect?
Got a weird problem: I have the Denon AH 7200 headphones + FiiO E10K Olympus 2. If i listen to people on Youtube, Twitch or even Teamspeak i get click/snaps, which are very annoying. Movies and music are normal. WTF is happening i'am so confused.
I don't have any problems with my old Beyerdynamic 880's. FYI: I use on-board soundcard.
Like i said it's even on teamspeak when someone is talking. Maybe some kind of problem with the audio frequencies when somebody is talking? Is my mainboard faulty?
I guess i have to test my headphone on another pc. I think it would be the easiest solution to see if it's my computer, software conflict, faulty cable or the headphones themselves
sounds like a typical hardware acceleration problem, try turning it on if its off or vice versa. How you do it depends on the browser / software, just google it for your browser/whatever.
I am looking for a (new) headset/headphones. I currently have a Creative BlasterX G5, but am struggling to find a good headset for me. I am not an audiophile by any standard, but I got that DAC because my onboard-sound really is lacking, the G5 already makes a difference on the Apple Earpods (which I have used most until now and which should give you an indication about my expertise...). Also what I don't like about the G5 is that it is too "strong" for my current headphones, meaning I have the volume at 2/4/6 percent which leaves basically no room for adjustment.
I have the following requirements but am struggling to find something that fits:
- Wired, ideally jack, but also USB is possible (I can still return the DAC). If it's USB, it should have a volume slider (or some other way to adjust volume without going into windows settings).
- For large heads (!). Most headsets I have tried have a very tight fit for me and start to hurt rather quickly. Yes, I tried “stretching” them but still I quickly get pressure on my ears. While I usually don’t use them more than 2 hours in a session, doesn’t help if it’s uncomfortable after 5-10 mins.
- Open design. I do have a family and I need to be able to hear when somebody calls me from downstairs or so. I have ANC headphones for when I want to be "walled off".
Most probably someone here is going to recommend Beyerdynamic headphones, but from all I have tried they all isolate hearing quite much. Pricing can be somewhere up to 200 EUR, but less would be appreciated.
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No USB. Typically any usb headphone is going to have it's own little onboard dac/amp and they sound like shit.
I don't recommend Beyer, pretty much ever unless it's their higher end stuff out of your range because they never do a detachable cable design, which in my opinion, can fuck right off if everyone else is doing it. Cable's are usually the first go go bad and I'm not buying a whole new pair of headphones because they're fucking lazy.
If you'd like to try out a planar magnetic design, I think they're fucking great. I got a pair of Dan Clarn Open Aeon and I don't think I'll ever go back to the traditional driver style. Planars just tick all the boxes while also being able to punch with the bass. Mine is like having a built in subwoofer.
HiFiman has been pretty notorious for theirs. They used to be criticized a lot for their cheap headband clasp that holds the cup, but last I knew they listened to the complaints and made them stronger.
Only works on headphones that use that same single sided 3.5mm headphone cable. Sound qualitywise it's a notch or two under a mod mic but still sounds great.
Addtionally, you're running your G5 in low gain mode right? You only use high on headphones that need a lot of juice.
Wow, thank you for that detailed answer! I'll make sure to look into those. Some of them seem to be quire large over the ears, but it definitely seems like there is something in there for me
“The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.”
- Albert Camus
I don't recommend Beyer, pretty much ever unless it's their higher end stuff out of your range because they never do a detachable cable design, which in my opinion, can fuck right off if everyone else is doing it. Cable's are usually the first go go bad and I'm not buying a whole new pair of headphones because they're fucking lazy.
The cables on both beyers still work fine, no issues there. I do abuse them a bit sometimes by riding over them with my desk chair. They seem to be built like a brick. But yes, a detachable cable would be nice. There's a detachable cable mod I would like to try on my 770 Pro. It seems simple enough to do, but I still need to get a precision soldering iron again after my last one burnt out Haven't really needed it for anything else so I'll wait until I really need one
There's a detachable cable mod I would like to try on my 770 Pro. It seems simple enough to do, but I still need to get a precision soldering iron again after my last one burnt out Haven't really needed it for anything else so I'll wait until I really need one
I've seen the mod but still, Phillips can do it on their SHP9500 for years which cost like 65 bucks.
Sennheiser puts it on all of theirs.
Literally any audio enthusiast company is making their headphones with detachable cables with 0 modding, except Beyer and SOME/Most Fostex. 0 excuse for it.
I've never liked Samsung for anything audio. They've gotten better since they bought up Harmon Kardon but there's still way better out there. Atmos on a soundbar is purely marketing, you'd spend more time trying to position that thing right for it to even reflect off the ceiling for it to matter.
Dunno if it's around you but I would have gone with JBL or Polk Audio if you wanted the satellites.
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Haven't really needed it for anything else so I'll wait until I really need one 
