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Sin317
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For fuck's sake, I get system reboots while playing Mad Max on my i3 + GTX 750 Ti. I used an app called Open Hardware Monitor to log my temps, max CPU temp is 68 Celcius and max GPU temp is 71. It didn't crash in that run, though.
A few days ago I saw the temp go up to 73. Are these temps in the danger zone? Also, should I use some app to change the fan speed strategy to be higher? I don't care about noise!
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Apr 2021 21:05 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 9th Apr 2021 00:26 Post subject: |
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I'll sell you my 3090 (and throw in waterblock) for £4,500 delivered?
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| Posted: Fri, 9th Apr 2021 01:00 Post subject: |
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| VGAdeadcafe wrote: | For fuck's sake, I get system reboots while playing Mad Max on my i3 + GTX 750 Ti. I used an app called Open Hardware Monitor to log my temps, max CPU temp is 68 Celcius and max GPU temp is 71. It didn't crash in that run, though.
A few days ago I saw the temp go up to 73. Are these temps in the danger zone? Also, should I use some app to change the fan speed strategy to be higher? I don't care about noise! |
<70C - idle/browsing zone
>70C - perfect zone
>80C - not great, not terrible
>90C - danger zone, change paste
>99+ - new hardware zone
I have gotten system reboot and video driver crash due to the following:
bad XMP
bad OC
bad driver
bad BIOS
update your win/drivers/bios/vbios
also you can use GPU-Z for real-time temps and stats
can make it log into file, so if you crash again you get last values
| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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| Posted: Fri, 9th Apr 2021 01:16 Post subject: |
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| VGAdeadcafe wrote: | For fuck's sake, I get system reboots while playing Mad Max on my i3 + GTX 750 Ti. I used an app called Open Hardware Monitor to log my temps, max CPU temp is 68 Celcius and max GPU temp is 71. It didn't crash in that run, though.
A few days ago I saw the temp go up to 73. Are these temps in the danger zone? Also, should I use some app to change the fan speed strategy to be higher? I don't care about noise! |
There's most likely something else causing those crashes/instabilities. The GPU and CPU should be fine even at 95 Celsius (although not recommended since it heats up the rest of the system). I'd do some thorough testing of the RAM sticks following the normal procedures... (ie. remove all but one stick and if your motherboard support it, test it in all the RAM slots with a USB-bootable RAM test, a list of the top 4 here (well, ignore the last one, I don't know why they even put it there since it's from 2006 and was made for floppy):
https://www.lifewire.com/free-memory-test-programs-2626178
They're all USB drive bootable (thus they don't load Windows which will eat a big chunk of RAM which can't be tested). Do the most thorough test with for instance Memtest86 or Memtest86+. Whether you get errors or not, run the Windows Memory Diagnostic tool as well. Do this for each memory slot (if your motherboard support booting with a single ram stick in any other memory slot than the first one).
If you get no errors after all that, test the next memory stick using the same procedure.
When you've done the sticks, put them all back in and run the tests again. That will show if there's an issue with using multiple RAM sticks.
You should also reset your BIOS to default settings before doing any of this (preferably the latest bios update for your particular motherboard).
Gawd, I've done so much instability/crashing issue detective work over the years (since 1995) that it's embedded itself in my genetic structure.
Thankfully I haven't actually experienced ANY issues at all with my current PC:
Asus ROG Strix Z370-Gaming H
Intel i5-8400
Geforce 1060 6GB O/C
Four sticks of Kingston DDR4 4GB sticks (16GB in total).
The i5-8400 is multiplier locked so I have a mild overclock via the bus clock (100Mhz per core), the tightest settings for my RAM (yeah, I know, two 8GB sticks would allow for better timings and further O/C but it is what it is), a rather substantial overclock of my 1060 (+225 MHz on GPU, +675 MHz on VRAM.
Stock 1060 GPU boost 1709 MHz, My 1060 maxed at 2126 MHz
Stock 1060 VRAM is 2002 MHz (8 Gbps). My 1060 VRAM is 2340 MHz (9.36 Gbps)
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
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JackQ
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| Posted: Fri, 9th Apr 2021 04:58 Post subject: |
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I just ordered my 3060 ti, It's the best deal I could have with all the prices hikes.
The card will be arrive in 2 months, So I still have a time to regret my decision and see if there might be an options for better card at decent price, But at least I reserved my self a card just in case.
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Fri, 9th Apr 2021 06:23 Post subject: |
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I've bitten the bullet as it seems either way out of pocket will be the same.
I have someone offering me $400 for my 1080ti and $100 for my old case. can get a 6900xt for $1500 when they are in stock from my friend with a shop.
Way I see it, either way now, or a year from now I will pay $1000 for it:
Now I pay $1000 out of pocket plus the $500 guy will give me.
Or wait a year, not be able to sell my 1080ti for anywhere near that price and pay $1000 out of pocket MSRP for the card.
So now it's just a waiting game until he can get one. Decided against the 3080 as the 10gb while 'fine' isn't 16gb the 6900xt has. And about the same performance give or take for 1440 ultrawide gaming.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
Disclaimer: Post made by me are of my own creation. A delusional mind relayed in text form.
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Fri, 9th Apr 2021 07:57 Post subject: |
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I wouldn't pursue selling it at over inflated costs, but they offered it to me for my card when I wasn't trying to sell it. I figure if they offer that much of their own choice right off the bat. I'm not forcing their hand or price gouging them. They picked a price.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
Disclaimer: Post made by me are of my own creation. A delusional mind relayed in text form.
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JackQ
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| Posted: Sat, 10th Apr 2021 12:19 Post subject: |
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I found store that might sell the 3080 at decent price, but the catch it will take months till I get it as well.
I already reserved myself 3060ti, I contact the store that sells the 3080, worst case I will end up with 3060 ti in June.
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Sin317
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| Posted: Sun, 11th Apr 2021 00:49 Post subject: |
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A little update on my earlier problem report, it wasn't GPU related, it was the PSU's fault. I dug up my old PC's carcass and scavenged the old PSU. I have been using it for two days without a problem.
I got lucky it wasn't the mobo or the GPU, holy fuck ...
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| Posted: Sun, 11th Apr 2021 01:10 Post subject: |
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Yeah, exactly what I posted on that thread... well I *thought* about posting it anyway 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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JackQ
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| Posted: Tue, 13th Apr 2021 20:57 Post subject: |
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How is the ASUS GeForce RTX 3070 Dual 8GB ?
I might repelace the 3060 ti I ordered with that card.
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| Posted: Tue, 13th Apr 2021 21:11 Post subject: |
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what happened to all those cards that were used in the previous mining boom though ? they still mining ?
nvidia must be scheming to make sure the current mining cards never make the second hand market
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| Posted: Tue, 13th Apr 2021 22:55 Post subject: |
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| PickupArtist wrote: |
nvidia must be scheming to make sure the current mining cards never make the second hand market |
I dont think its that. I think nvidia is making the best/exploiting a untapped market and situation for the best (for them), instead of trashing bad bins.
Most the chips in the mining cards are ones that could not bin for 3090>3080>3070>3060 so useless for us, but can be output disabled and just use the chips for hashrate.
Why you think its a stripped down 3060, and not the power of a 3090? Surely the miner would love that more. Because its a die that failed all the way down to 'unstable at even our lowest current SKUs'.
Without the mining cards being made, there wouldn't be more 3070+ being made anyway for us.
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JackQ
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| Posted: Wed, 14th Apr 2021 08:57 Post subject: |
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| JackQ wrote: | How is the ASUS GeForce RTX 3070 Dual 8GB ?
I might repelace the 3060 ti I ordered with that card. |
Quite useless 'upgrade' due to price/performance differences. Dual is one of the loudest and weakest coolers as well unless you undervolt your card.
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| Posted: Wed, 14th Apr 2021 10:40 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | NVIDIA reported through its website that the lack of stock of graphics cards will continue for pretty much the remainder of the year.
Executive vice president and chief financial officer of NVIDIA, Colette Kress, indicated that demand continues to be much higher than supply, recognizing that the stock of graphics products is quite scarce. Kress mentioned that the situation will continue for much of 2021, although most likely nothing will change until next year. |
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/nvidia-indicates-gpu-shortages-to-last-for-the-bigger-part-of-the-year.html
So no relief for those still waiting for the insane price hike, scalping and lack of availability until at least 2022. No matter if it's because of the pandemic or if nVidia is somehow playing the market in order to keep the same technology viable for longer and give R&D for future GPU's more time.
The Ampere replacement named Lovelace (hilarious name, they might as well have named it DeepThroat™) has most likely already taped out and since it's apparently being done in the 5nm process it might simply be a stop-gap GPU directly based on Ampere with more Graphics Processing Clusters, Texture Processing Clusters, Streaming Multiprocessors, CUDA Cores etc. and leaked (salt-warning) info shows nearly twice the amount of everything in that silicon while they're working on the next generation of GPU technology since it's becoming more and more difficult to keep shrinking the process, esp. for such large and extremely complex pieces of silicon, tweaking and redesigning various aspects of the actual components to increase efficiency, out/throughput and performance while trying to keep the power consumption low and create a design with less heat generation; the end result will still be hot due to the increased amount of transistors and bus lines connecting everything in the die.
This is giving AMD time for some R&D (or R&R?) as well to update their tech. We really need AMD to be even more competitive on the discreet GPU market if we're hoping for GPU prices to become somewhat sensible again.
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JackQ
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| Posted: Wed, 14th Apr 2021 10:58 Post subject: |
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Yea, I gave up waiting for improved version of 3070 cuz stock and prices issue, I will just get the 3070 at decent price I was offered. worst case I will buy new card in 2-3 years.
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| Posted: Wed, 14th Apr 2021 15:12 Post subject: |
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i really dont get what is holding amd back to release more apu cpus or budget gpus ... they only released for oems ... they could take a massive market share in this gaming gpu shortage
but they been fucking sleeping n sitting on their asses all year, they havent also re released older gpus like nvidia has
wtf are they thinking, meanwhile their stock price is a bubble farce if they are not able to scale and move quick in a volatile market
dont these idiots realize that people have now covid emergency bought hardware and wont make a new purchase in the next 5 years ...
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