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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Feb 2021 13:32    Post subject:
Destiny 2 was as bad as any of these games on release. Bungie, like many other developers, has a cult following (I don't get why) which gives them a pass on everything. Years and expansions later, Destiny 2 is not that much better. If this is the best this subgenre can conjure, it speaks volume of the state of online looter shooters.
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Feb 2021 15:41    Post subject:
It shows that not anyone can make an online shooter easily as users make it up. Destiny had a rough launch but so much was changed when Forsaken dropped. Bungie didn't give up and only kept fixing/messing/fixing stuff. There is no other looter game on the market that is as active or good as Destiny. The gunplay, exotic missions, raid, dungeons, are all simply too good.

The way I see it, every life is a pile of good things and bad things. The good things don’t always soften the bad things, but vice versa, the bad things don’t always spoil the good things and make them unimportant.
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Feb 2021 16:07    Post subject:
Forsaken was good, everything since is mediocre at best.
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Feb 2021 16:42    Post subject:
IamAWESOME wrote:
exotic missions


The exotic missions are usually a grind ending with a reused mission. Are we going to praise Bungie for that? Laughing

The problem with looter shooters is that everyone tries to copy a formula that's deeply flawed.
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Feb 2021 16:53    Post subject:
Nodrim wrote:
IamAWESOME wrote:
exotic missions


The exotic missions are usually a grind ending with a reused mission. Are we going to praise Bungie for that? Laughing


Not every exotic mission though? Both new Hawkmoon and Dead Man's Tale are very good missions.

Obviously not every exotic going to have a unique mission. Some do and they are done well. If each season gets Hawkmoon or DMT type of quest, it is good.

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The problem with looter shooters is that everyone tries to copy a formula that's deeply flawed.


They all copy and still fail at the basic level itself.

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Forsaken was good, everything since is mediocre at best.


The story campaign will continue to be mediocre. Both SK and Europa along with all seasons have added good content since Forsaken.

GoS and PoH from SK are excellent. The prophecy is a great free dungeon. DSC raid is awesome from Europa. Hawkmoon and DMT are solid exotic quests from new seasons.

All these are already better than Last Wish and ST dungeon. Not to forget how bad seasons were with Forsaken compared to SK and current.
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Feb 2021 17:08    Post subject:
IamAWESOME wrote:

Not every exotic mission though? Both new Hawkmoon and Dead Man's Tale are very good missions.


I wouldn't call a few jumps ending up with a fight a good mission. You also replay that area a bunch of times because for once they made something new and has to be exhausted.
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Feb 2021 17:29    Post subject:
Nodrim wrote:
IamAWESOME wrote:

Not every exotic mission though? Both new Hawkmoon and Dead Man's Tale are very good missions.


I wouldn't call a few jumps ending up with a fight a good mission.


I would take that over generic grind quests and jumping ending up with a fight has been the core of Destiny stuff. Pretty much every activity follows it. Be it strikes or dungeon or raid. All have the find route/jump around/get into a fight formula. The layout, visuals, audio, mechanics, design, etc makes it fun.

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You also replay that area a bunch of times because for once they made something new and has to be exhausted.


You technically don't have to grind it weekly if you don't want the extra pinnacle or rolls. Catalyst can be completed without doing the mission.

I personally kind of like that it is there. I remember Whisper and Outbreak missions. Playing those few times for catalyst and then never touched again as it no longer served any purpose. Total waste of all the work went into it.

Destiny might have lots of ups and downs but at least far from dead compared to Anthem/Division. There is no better online looter shooter game at the moment. All tried to kill Destiny and ended up dying while Destiny is still going strong years later.
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