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Well, i ordered a Intel 665P 2TB and i think it'll keep me satisfied for a long time!
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zmed
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| Posted: Thu, 22nd Oct 2020 20:12 Post subject: |
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Oh jeez...
So, I'm moving back to Hungary on Monday, and I'll be using my old laptop for a couple days. Decided to get things out of the way and update the OS and various stuff on it now...and holy crap I'm already missing my system drive SSD, even though they won't be picking up my desktop until tomorrow.
You never realize how good you have it compared to your old rigs until you're forced to go back, even for a little bit.
The less said about using a microscopic laptop monitor after enjoying my ultrawide on my desk for years the better...not looking forward to the next week or so...
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| Posted: Thu, 22nd Oct 2020 20:48 Post subject: |
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| zmed wrote: | | So, I'm moving back to Hungary on Monday |
Permanently? |
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zmed
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| Posted: Thu, 22nd Oct 2020 20:54 Post subject: |
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If they don't get their brains straight about this Brexit business, then yes, most likely. Might move to Germany or something once the pandemic is more or less under control.
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| Posted: Thu, 22nd Oct 2020 23:45 Post subject: |
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Will your life be so altered that moving away is the only sensible course of action?
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zmed
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2020 00:03 Post subject: |
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My company just made me redundant because the blanket 80% furlough subsidy was discontinued. No-deal brexit is pretty much a certainty at this point, and with a ton of people losing their jobs left and right, it's highly unlikely that I'd find a job that is safe and pays well enough. It's only a matter of time before the UK economy goes into a deep depression and might as well jump ship while possible.
With my last paycheck, room deposit and tax refund, I should have enough money to coast for at least a year, if not longer. Thankfully my family has been trying to convince me to move back since the pandemic started, so I won't have to worry about rent while I'm at home.
My biggest fear right now is that I can catch covid while traveling. I'm fat, and used to smoke, so I'm not exactly low-risk. No diabetes AFAIK, but I'm not really a model of health. 
But that's quite off topic. I posted to whine about having to use a HDD for a bit. 
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Nalo
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2020 00:04 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2020 00:18 Post subject: |
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^^Aye, it hit the iceberg months ago, and I'm surprised it's still afloat^^
Too busy with all this CV19 nonsense to properly secure a deal, but rather throw out constant laughable bullshit day after day instead. There are no good times coming for the UK, its a shit show, and were well past the point of recovery now. I don't blame anyone wanting to leave.
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2020 01:20 Post subject: |
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@zmed u know 128- 256ssds are like 15-30 euros these days and fit most laptops right? or get an external one with a fast usb3
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zmed
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| Posted: Sun, 25th Oct 2020 18:59 Post subject: |
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I have taken an old 2.5 external hard drive 3.0 apart after the hard drive died. I transplanted a Crucial 500GB SSD into it. The read/write speeds are 270/253...is it the hard drive enclosure causing the lack of speed? Should I buy a proper SSD external enclosure? Thank you
After further research I found out that USB 3.0 is a bottleneck for an SSD but compared to a regular external hard drive which reads/writes at 86/84 I will take SSD 270/253
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Oct 2020 12:48 Post subject: |
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I'm having a problem or maybe it's just the way it is? The SSD enclosure I made from an old external 2.5 hard drive has a 500GB Crucial SSD in it. The read/write speeds are 270/250. One time I tested it and it was 550/530. All other tests have been 270/250? I don't understand what is going on?
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Oct 2020 13:06 Post subject: |
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| zellar wrote: | | I'm having a problem or maybe it's just the way it is? The SSD enclosure I made from an old external 2.5 hard drive has a 500GB Crucial SSD in it. The read/write speeds are 270/250. One time I tested it and it was 550/530. All other tests have been 270/250? I don't understand what is going on? |
Crucial is what's going on. 250MB/sec at first 2GB of a larger mkv file. Goes down to 30MB/second after 3GB and BELOW 7MB/sec for the rest of the file. Happens every time. Slower than any thumb drive I have around. My model is BX500, if yours is MX500 you should be in a better position.
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Oct 2020 13:49 Post subject: |
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But I have another Crucial 500GB inside the PC sata connection to the mobo and it reads/writes at 550/540? And that drive is 80% full. I'm thinking it's the USB 3.0/2.5 hard drive enclosure I made from an old seagate hard drive that is showing slow read/write speeds?
If I bought a dedicated SSD enclosure I think it might fix the problem?
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Oct 2020 15:21 Post subject: |
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Is the enclosure USB? If its an old USB enclosure for a spinning disk the USB controller on it might be a 2.0 USB.
Even if the plug is blue, if it was a cheaper one they could have cut cost by putting in a 2.0 or lower quality USB controller on it knowing no one would get over 2.0 speeds on a spinning 2.5 inch disk hooked to it.
I got an old Western Digital MyBook external(or whatever it was called..something like that) I tore apart for a hack job external USB disk reader for copying files off HD people bring me to save stuff off of, and it SAYS USB 3.0, but regardless of what I put on it 60-70mb/s is all I get out of it.
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Oct 2020 15:56 Post subject: |
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@DXWarlock...I thought that but it does read/write 270/250 so that alone shows it is USB 3.0. When I plug the drive into a USB 2.0 black plug it read/write is 49/42 so it is definitely a USB 3.0
When I use HDDSCAN v1.4 it labels the enclosure Seagate Backup+ SCSI Disk Drive
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Oct 2020 16:08 Post subject: |
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It could just be that because the enclosure was only intended to be used with a slower mechanical hard drive, the internal SATA -> USB adaptor is not fast enough to handle the full speed of the SSD.
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Oct 2020 16:21 Post subject: |
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Well to reassure my thoughts and get the full SSD read/write speeds I am replacing the Crucial MX500GB with a Samsung 860 500GB in the enclosure and see how that goes????
When I put the Samsung 860 500GB into the enclosure I got the same read/write speeds.
250/240
I just bought a external Seagate 500GB and I plugged it into the USB 3.0 front panel on my PC and it reads at 550/540....
So I believe it was the hacked Seagate 2.5 USB 3.0 case that was the culprit???
PHEW! Glad that's over!!! LOL
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Oct 2020 16:56 Post subject: |
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I dont think its the drive myself.
Any drive on a controller board -> USB is going to be way slower than sata/m.2.
Especially if its an external backup drive case that had a spinning drive. Because even if its USB 3.2 the controller board in it didn't need to be built for any speed faster than what a spinning drive could give it. It was built to a price point, and if they never expected it to bypass 300mb/s why overbuild and add cost to the controller that will never be needed?
I'd suggest just spend the $30-$40 and get a proper external docking bay if you want all the speed it can do, it wont be as fast as direct on MB..but will be as fast as HD->controller->USB can do for throughput with overheard for each step of data type translation.
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Oct 2020 16:57 Post subject: |
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@DXWarlock Exactly right with explanation above! Thanks for all the input
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| Posted: Sat, 31st Oct 2020 02:00 Post subject: |
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Jesus fucking christ what is this? Installed it in a ssd port and now it disabled a few of my sata ports (the one with windows on) and now i find out i should have switche port for my 1070 also to the bottom port. What kinda puzzle is this? Nothing about it is obvious and the gfx card moving i'd never know unless i stumbled upon the info in a video.
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| Posted: Sat, 31st Oct 2020 04:59 Post subject: |
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I hate the internet sometimes. After i installed the intel 665 2tb my system is so slow its unusable, and aparently im the only person on the planet with this issue. All issues i find are "slow boot of 30 seconds" jesus christ if this was that easy. Just spent nearly 10 minutes getting windows loaded.
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| Posted: Sat, 31st Oct 2020 05:12 Post subject: |
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Sat, 31st Oct 2020 06:37 Post subject: |
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Sounds like it could also be you are out of PCI lanes. As the z390 has 24 lanes total [I believe].
Video card is 16 of them. You'd have 8 left over. NVME would be 4, so 4 left for other things.
(And the GPU slot might be chipset based. you used up more than 16 the CPU provided. Or vice versa and used more than the board added to that 16 and had to put it on the other 'set' of them.)
Intel’s 9th generation Core CPUs feature 16 PCIe lanes, which are dedicated to the x16/x8 slots for GPUs or PCIe-slot SSDs.
If that's what it is the MB manual should tell you which get priority if you plug in things that use more than your CPU gives.
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-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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| Posted: Sat, 31st Oct 2020 06:49 Post subject: |
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Thanks for the input but this is almost watergem quality stupid. Well, it was a mistake but a stupid one nonetheless. I managed to unplug the watercooler when i swapped out some drives earlier and i noticed the cpu fan wasn't running. Also the clocks for memory and cpu were reset. Now it's all working just fantastic. Thanks though!
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Nov 2020 14:57 Post subject: |
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I want to buy an SSD for my good ol' desktop to make a primary/system drive. I have this mobo:
www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5248&dl=1#ov
The problem is that I already have two SATA disks in there and I don't want to buy a SATA SSD and have two extra cables etc. Can I get a PCI-Express disk?
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| Posted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2021 16:22 Post subject: |
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A friend of mine gifted me a Patriot Burst Elite 480gb SSD, nice!
Now ... how do I migrate my Windows 8.1 installation smoothly to it? I haven't connected it yet.
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