Pillars of Eternity 2
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lolozaur




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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Jan 2020 20:41    Post subject:
Do people actually finish these games ?! 25 hours in and I've barely scratched the surface. And I've got the season pass as well !!
How much times did you spend in this ? Does it get more interesting ? Anyone ? I'm level 10.


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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Jan 2020 22:50    Post subject:
Bit more time and energy a few years ago and yeah I could wrap up these bigger RPG's whether open world or novels length text epic within a week or two though it's been a bit tougher lately.

Well that or the games have been less compelling or well written plus the open world went kinda stale though with the occasional surprise hit. Very Happy

Deadfire though I want to wrap up Pillars of Eternity but I didn't quite enjoy my first attempt through and then got sidetracked and now it's been in the back catalog for a while as I've cleared some other 100 odd titles out ha ha.

Didn't seem too bad for what I got out of the early part though but the first game is well going to be up first and then having fun with whatever got fixed or updated or just improved in the sequel.


...At least it's not another JRPG fun as they can be there sure were a lot of those in the backlog as I got started on getting that resolved.

Plenty of dungeon delvers and western "classic'" RPG's too though, might not all have book sized scripts of wordily epic tale of GET TO THE POINT ALREADY!
(And let's kill god and shit knows what else because it's a thing in most of these for some reason!)

While the hero also kills giant rats and delivers a ton of misc junk items to everyone else because why work when a few gold coins can sucker some oblivious hero wannabe into doing trivial tasks.



Anyways sidetrack a bit but yeah if the game doesn't actually manage to engage or grab attention it really can feel like a slog at times, pacing can also be a struggle and the usage of obvious padding or "required" backtracking can be a really detrimental little crutch although sometimes the main story is kinda quickly out of the way and dealt with and it's the side stories and party members all having personal issues needing to be dealt with that just takes forever.

Or it's Might and Magic and the hero was last seen in a inn playing card games. Razz
(Before mini-games got a bit out of hand and yeah that was a fun little diversion back then.)


EDIT: Oh and I wouldn't recommend trying to marathon the text heavier stuff it can get kinda tough with all the text at once let alone keeping track of important details and story.

Can't be easy in today's streaming and Let's Play narrated video content either doing stuff like that, anyone going into things like Torment or Trails would probably risk throat injuries and severe eye strain without at least some pauses and breaks.

Open world stuff is just fatigue and feeling of repetition or sameness though especially when it's all scaled or randomly generated plus 30-second something rule and random spawn because apparently focus testers forgot to use humans and used fish or something that couldn't hold attention what so ever even for a minute.
(Cleanup being a hassle I suppose just using sheep is out.)
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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Jan 2020 22:59    Post subject:
Probably a ton that could be written about the gameplay as well, much as I like story and world design and that sort of thing is it too shallow, too complicated and what's the word obtuse I think or simply lacking in fun because it feels someone tried to perfect formulas and programming and math to where everything should be viable or balanced but comes across as generic or mechanical and simply not very rewarding or involving.

Now it also differs for what type of game and rules and such as with a turn based, pseudo or full real time system and rules and of course AI and how complex players can take things like macros or scripting and all that but I did hear a lot about how Pillars 1 felt almost overly mechanical or analytical in it's approach at least.
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Vikerness




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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Jan 2020 23:28    Post subject:
Pillars 1 design was brilliant. But this one.. feels like all quests are 100 miles apart from each other. You do some shit on a far away island, you come back to the main town to get the followup or the reward, and after you get send on another quest, 100 miles away. Repeat.

Too many npcs that have no connections one to another, too many islands, too many towns, too much open world randomness. Its all bits and pieces and its hard to care about any of them. That said I assume the dlcs will be the best part of the game. If I don't give up in the meantime.


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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Jan 2020 00:03    Post subject:
Did they fix the problem with friendly NPCs going hostile when you enter turn-based combat?


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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Jan 2020 04:53    Post subject:
7 hours later, now I'm level 16, ready for dlcs. Don't fuck with me motherfuckers


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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Jun 2020 11:10    Post subject:
The Game Slashers wrote:

In the end, Pillars of Eternity 2 is just the intrigue to a much larger plot. So much has been laid on the table, paving the path onward for a universe that has fewer and fewer reasons to look back. But the pay off for these actions has yet to unfold and the uncertainty of a sequel puts Deadfire in a dimmer light than it deserves. The game is an improvement over its predecessor in almost every aspect and I can’t say with absolute certainty why the sales were so disappointing. I for one hope that we will eventually get to see the final act in the Watcher’s story and the consequences of this game.

Pros:
+ Breathtaking 2D visuals
+ Branching quests with multiple outcomes
+ Improved combat system
+ In-depth character progression
+ Great music
+ Fully voice acted
+ Your actions from the previous game have consequences

Cons:
– The main story conflicts with the rest of the game
– Short companions’ quests
– Some balance issues
– Unstable performance
– Bugs


Source:
www.thegameslashers.com/pillars-of-eternity-2-deadfire-review.html
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Jun 2020 11:50    Post subject:
Only two years after release. How timely.
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Jun 2020 12:01    Post subject:
I see no issue with an extra opinion / review / re-view on the game.

'Famous' youtubers create such content all the time. And it can make sense, since some games deserve the attention and their 'lifespan' (or popularity, if you wish) can last a very long time. SO, for the fans (and not necessarily for them alone), a discussion or opinion on their favorite matter is always welcomed.


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Nodrim




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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Jun 2020 00:19    Post subject:
I wanted to review Pillars of Eternity 2 back in the day, but I took my time and patch 2.0 came out so I gave up on the idea.
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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Jun 2020 07:56    Post subject:
Version 5.0 shouldn't have stability issues and obvious bugs. Which version did you test?
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Nodrim




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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Jun 2020 09:42    Post subject:
I played on the latest version and there are plenty of issues. There is a memory leak which forced me to restart the game pretty often. I crashed to desktop more 15-20 times during my playthrough and the main menus become slower as the game progresses probably due to the increased number of saves.
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Guy_Incognito




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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Jun 2020 10:23    Post subject:
Weird, a buddy of mine beat the game and all DLCs recently (spent ~140 hours according to Steam) and didn't complain (but he does have a beefy rig). I haven't played past 2.0 but the only issue I had was with hyperthreaded CPU and having to cap CPU cores within the game with whatshername plugin.
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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Jun 2020 11:00    Post subject:
I have a pretty beefy rig myself.
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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Jun 2020 12:07    Post subject:
One of the few cRPGs I couldn't finish due to boredom. It still saddens me Sad Maybe I'll do a full playthrough with the DLCs some time.
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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Jun 2020 12:44    Post subject:
It never crashed for me but I stopped at the first DLC where you are forced to respec a character to be able to disarm traps; more so because the game is nowhere near as good as the first one.


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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Jun 2020 14:06    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
One of the few cRPGs I couldn't finish due to boredom. It still saddens me Sad Maybe I'll do a full playthrough with the DLCs some time.


Also tried 2-3 times, can't get passed 8 or so hours before being bored shitless. Its the open-world sailing aspect of the game. Loved the first one.
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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Jun 2020 14:56    Post subject:
Both PoE games were so boring for me. The writing is so tedious and uninspired and the stories (both the main story and the majority of the side stories with very few exceptions) did not interest me at all. Sad
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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Jun 2020 15:21    Post subject:
Most boring thing is those fking loading times. That constant loading transitions between maps and / or interiors and exteriors is so annoying... Even if it's not long in most cases, it's still putting you slowly out of the game.

You get bored of them long before getting bored of the game...


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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Jul 2020 06:52    Post subject:
dsergei wrote:
Both PoE games were so boring for me. The writing is so tedious and uninspired and the stories (both the main story and the majority of the side stories with very few exceptions) did not interest me at all. Sad

Yeah, I preferred the writing in Tyranny a lot more. Wish that game got a sequel as it's going to be 4 years since the original released in November 2016. Sad



1 and 2 are still amazing.
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th May 2022 10:40    Post subject:
Re(re/re/re/re/re)started this game.

Man, the writing and narrator are so damn superior to that casual average gremlinesque Baldur's Gate 3...

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PostPosted: Wed, 25th May 2022 11:19    Post subject:
I played the first 40hrs on a 14" 120hz laptop since it ran pretty well

Tonight I put it on the 27" gaming PC and the visuals, in comparison, are multitudes better. Not changing detail levels, but just being able to see the details themselves on a bigger screen. It's incredible. You lose so many details on the smaller screen. I do this with many games but this is the only one that makes a huge difference.

And yeah, the voices are miles above BG3. Many things in this game are IMMmmooooO. Being able to pick between real time and turn based, for one...

The only real issue I have is that it feels a lot shorter than the first game from what I remember. I assume I'm near the end as my save game has suddenly been marked 'pre-end game'.
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th May 2022 11:59    Post subject:
Yeah, di vero it's clearly and vastly superior to that abomination* in terms of good old cRPG pedigree.

*well... it's not an abomination, obviously... Rolling Eyes ... but it's just so... so... departed, estranged, larianesque, casual, horny teenage pleaser...

Bastards.


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PostPosted: Wed, 25th May 2022 17:41    Post subject:
All little annoyances and/or limitations aside, the game definitely did many things right and deserves to stay in the same room as the big boys, although not in the first row. The writing isn't exactly engaging as per nuObsidian tradition, but at the end of the day, it is better than most stuff released in the past few years (with Disco Elysium being the beautiful exception and in my opinion the modern hallmark of excellence writing-wise).

Both the art direction and general attention to detail are remarkable as well, most locations genuinely look like living dioramas with their fine-grained animations and shading job. The music, combat and exploration are all solid as far as the genre goes, especially the latter which I felt was a big improvement over the first game. It's a well-crafted product, only lacking that special something that could elevate it from good to truly memorable.

I should go back to it too, didn't play any of the additional contents because I was waiting for the patches - too bad that after all this time I barely remember what it was all about. The savegame should have one of those "previously on Pillars" recaps in the style of a TV series Razz Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th May 2022 21:32    Post subject:
lol @ that Sawyer singing video. Guys got a pretty good voice.

I got to play these again, i'm annoyed the time i beat PoE1 i couldn't get Durance's final dialogues to trigger, not sure if it was bug or crazy long timer. Seemed like an interesting character. Same with whatshername, Grieving Mother. Didn't much care for the second game too much, factions were all assholes, ship combat was annoying and the setting didn't do much for me compared to the setting of the first game. Also dont remember any memorable dungeons.
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PostPosted: Thu, 26th May 2022 04:41    Post subject:
Finished it. I didn't see what was so unreasonable about Eothas' plan, so he did what he did and there was no big boss fight at the end

Kind of anti-climatic Scratch Head

I did some of the DLC, but knowing there probably won't be a sequel kills motivation to go back at this point. Kind of hyped for this now though, which I forgot all about until I saw it in the game's menu:

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PostPosted: Thu, 26th May 2022 08:21    Post subject:
This game kills me, I know its really good CRPG but i just get bored shitless after 10-15 hours every single time. For whatever reason, i hate large cities in CRPG's its like there's a million NPCs to click on blah blah..

BG ive finished 5-10 times, worst part of the game is BG city.

BG2 ive played about 40% the way through, just an onslaught of city BS, i get so bored and stop playing. I don't know what it is, i just can't stand large city crap.
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