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There won't be any SP DLCs for this.
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Dec 2017 04:35 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Is Doom Guy the most problematic character of all time?
First of he's white, so Doom is racist because it's excluding POC. Secondly he's a CIS Man so Doom is both sexist and transphobic. We are never given any indication that he's gay so he's also homophobic. He is clearly a very fit man so Doom also is ablist and fat shames. We never see him having sex so Doom is also slut shamming. His fit military body also is forcing male sexuality on everyone who plays and because he's killing demons from hell he's forcing western judeo-christian views on the world through imperial patriarchy, he's also killing demons with guns without trial so Doom is serial killer enabling.
There is not a single line of Doom's code that is not hate speech or oppression. I am so triggered right now. |
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Dec 2017 05:42 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 21st Jan 2020 21:30 Post subject: |
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Just finished this, it is not as awesome a game as I originally thought, now that I played it enough I recognise several big shortcomings.
Fights later on become just a "running around in a circle" kinda thing. Instead of the original Doom's circle-strafing, the bigger enemies force you to run away constantly because they rush you. They are also faster than you (Imps, Demons, Hellknights, Barons and others) ... I felt so SLOW and sluggish.
Also, does the game have a weapon wheel or something? It is so annoying to not know how much ammo you have. You press the BFG button, the weapon comes up and .... you have no ammo for it!
Also, the Shotgun with the upgraded Explosive shot makes the SSG obsolete. And the machine gun with the upgraded Micro missiles makes the Chaingun obsolete. (They use the same ammo)
Which brings me to the next point, NOT ENOUGH AMMO for these FATASS meatbags sometimes ...
My final opinion is that this is a shooter with above average gunplay, running on an awesome engine and with a good Doom atmosphere/story. Great music and satisfying weapons with a good upgrade system and great monster AI ... But I think one playthrough is enough for my lifetime, I am not coming back to this to replay this kind of "sluggishly running around while half the enemies are faster and the imps move and fire so fast that I feel like an octogenarian" gameplay. Oh and juggling around with the weapons trying to find a fucking gun with ammo ...
I will play Black Mesa next, should be the polar opposite of shooters
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| Posted: Tue, 21st Jan 2020 21:35 Post subject: |
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In 2016 (or 2020 really), that's all you can hope for. Mediocre pew pew pew that is head and shoulders above the rest.
Doom 2016 is pretty much forgotten. Nowhere near the hype that even the old ones have. Almost nobody is playing this online, there are no mods, so almost nobody is playing this in single player. I've said this before, and got downvoted by retards on reddit, but it's true. These are semi-fun pew pew pew for a week or so, then you get bored with them and uninstall, never to install again. 
And still they are better shooters than the rest of the crapolas.
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| Posted: Tue, 21st Jan 2020 21:38 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | In 2016 (or 2020 really), that's all you can hope for. Mediocre pew pew pew that is head and shoulders above the rest.
Doom 2016 is pretty much forgotten. Nowhere near the hype that even the old ones have. Almost nobody is playing this online, there are no mods, so almost nobody is playing this in single player. I've said this before, and got downvoted by retards on reddit, but it's true. These are semi-fun pew pew pew for a week or so, then you get bored with them and uninstall, never to install again.
And still they are better shooters than the rest of the crapolas. |
You know the sad thing? I played the ISOdemo when it came out, loved it, had a blast! Then I bought the game legitimately on Steam .. installed it... and was feeling meh after an hour or thereabouts, so I uninstalled  You really aren't wrong; as fun as Doom 2016 was, it is just a one-and-done forget about it type game
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| Posted: Tue, 21st Jan 2020 21:40 Post subject: |
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I feel like everything is like that these days. Is there something that we feel like will be a classic in 20-25 years? I certainly don't. It's all throwaway junk. And I don't mean only video games. All consumable media.
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| Posted: Tue, 21st Jan 2020 21:48 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | | LeoNatan wrote: | In 2016 (or 2020 really), that's all you can hope for. Mediocre pew pew pew that is head and shoulders above the rest.
Doom 2016 is pretty much forgotten. Nowhere near the hype that even the old ones have. Almost nobody is playing this online, there are no mods, so almost nobody is playing this in single player. I've said this before, and got downvoted by retards on reddit, but it's true. These are semi-fun pew pew pew for a week or so, then you get bored with them and uninstall, never to install again.
And still they are better shooters than the rest of the crapolas. |
You know the sad thing? I played the ISOdemo when it came out, loved it, had a blast! Then I bought the game legitimately on Steam .. installed it... and was feeling meh after an hour or thereabouts, so I uninstalled You really aren't wrong; as fun as Doom 2016 was, it is just a one-and-done forget about it type game |
Well for me, I constanly fire it up, finished it like 5x times.
As for old classics…you can't tell it in such short time.
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| Posted: Tue, 21st Jan 2020 21:55 Post subject: |
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So you just play the campaign over and over?
Without mods, I don't see this holding any future whatsoever. In fact, it's already pretty much dead, despite the huge sales.
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| Posted: Tue, 21st Jan 2020 22:49 Post subject: |
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I'll give you a different perspective. I for one appreciate what Doom at its inception meant and what the originals did for the genre and the industry overall. However, I don't particularly like playing them, neither did I as a kid, even though I did have access to them. Doom 3 was also absolutely unappealing. On the other hand I absolutely love this Doom, everything about it is just my cup of tea. I cannot at all agree with what VGA said as that was absolutely not my experience. To each their own I suppose. I for one couldn't be more glad about how the series was rebooted.
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| Posted: Wed, 22nd Jan 2020 00:35 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | So you just play the campaign over and over?
Without mods, I don't see this holding any future whatsoever. In fact, it's already pretty much dead, despite the huge sales. |
Yes, SP campaign all the way. Without mods or any other gimmick.
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| Posted: Wed, 22nd Jan 2020 00:56 Post subject: |
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So mods are a gimmick now? 
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| Posted: Wed, 22nd Jan 2020 02:03 Post subject: |
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| DarkRohirrim wrote: | | I'll give you a different perspective. I for one appreciate what Doom at its inception meant and what the originals did for the genre and the industry overall. However, I don't particularly like playing them, neither did I as a kid, even though I did have access to them. Doom 3 was also absolutely unappealing. On the other hand I absolutely love this Doom, everything about it is just my cup of tea. I cannot at all agree with what VGA said as that was absolutely not my experience. To each their own I suppose. I for one couldn't be more glad about how the series was rebooted. |
You didn't like Doom when you were a kid and you don't like it now? I loved it as a kid and I play it nowadays every way you can imagine, retro-style, modern source ports, cosmetic mods, huge gameplay mods, my own fucking mods ... all kinds of ways that I enjoy it. I even watch videos of people playing Doom sometimes, watch timedemos ...
Makes sense that our opinion of Doom 2016 is so different. The original makes you feel like a death machine on steroids, like that combat droid in the Mandalorian wrecking everyone while zooming around in high speeds and rotating superfast
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| Posted: Wed, 22nd Jan 2020 10:28 Post subject: |
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A lot of people feel the same way you do. I don't dislike them, they just don't really click with me, never did and their age has nothing to do with it. It is what it is... and I think that's fine.
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Of course it's fine. But if you look at current player counts for Doom 2016, the amount of people share your opinion isn't very high compared to the number of people who bought 2016 over the years. Whereas, the amount of legacy Doom players is very high still. Part of the problem is that modding is nonexistent here, so it's impossible to augment the gameplay to your liking, or simply create more content. I understand creating maps for 2016 is orders of magnitude more complex, but I do believe a core of people would have been up to the task had the proper tools (not SnapDerp) were released.
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| Posted: Wed, 22nd Jan 2020 11:17 Post subject: |
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Yes, proper mod tools would be fantastic, not disagreeing there. After I finished this game's campaign I actually messed around a bit in multiplayer (which was kept alive, but mostly by people that got really good at it so good luck improving like that) and in player made maps. It's pretty cool what you can do with the tools that are there, but limited still. The one that stuck with me the most was this ridiculous map that turned the game into a Streets of Rage style brawler, within the confines of the game's mechanics of course (shotgun was the punch I believe). Can't seem to find any footage of it, think it was one of the newer maps and nobody covered it since people moved on mostly.
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| Posted: Sun, 20th Dec 2020 10:41 Post subject: |
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Ok what are we looking at here? This looks like an SP I would play.
edit: ah, I see, cancelled Doom game.
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| Posted: Mon, 21st Dec 2020 11:23 Post subject: |
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| Interinactive wrote: |
Some bits look okay but others (1:58 ) not so much! |
Surprisingly, it was good enough for CDPR to use in Cyberpunk 2077.
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| Posted: Tue, 12th Jul 2022 15:44 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 12th Jul 2022 19:32 Post subject: |
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Would have been 500 000 times better than the shitepile Doom 2016. And seems the latest Doom is even worse again. I've not tried the newest though.
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that looks nice. I'd play that.
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| Posted: Wed, 13th Jul 2022 07:44 Post subject: |
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yeah looks slow enough for you old fucks to be able to aim at something
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| Posted: Wed, 13th Jul 2022 08:05 Post subject: |
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2016 was pretty good - a straight copy and paste of the shadow warrior reboot + derp button kills. i would have preferred no glorykills but it was barable in the 2016 release. Eternal was a refund for me, where you thought they may tone down the glory kill crap they did the opposite and made it 50x worse.
Press x for instant-gib health pinata, press x for insta-gib unlimited ammo pinata, movement was consolised especially the press x for flying/parkour stuff shutgun chain.. meh.
Tbh they were probably right to scrap that first iteration, it doesn't look very impressive. More like doom 3 with super heavily scripted events. SW reboot and doom 2016 both better received, why focus on the all the stuff players don't like?
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