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Frant
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Yeah, it's the same old banter with anti-Intel sentiments. The David vs Goliath syndrome in the world of CPU's, always betting for the underdog and savoring the times when the big "bad" wolf is hit with something like this.
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russ80
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| Posted: Mon, 27th May 2019 05:33 Post subject: |
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Hmm that 3900x looks tasty, probably my next platform. So silly how they’re owning intel yet their gpu division cant offer highend products to compete with nvidia.
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Frant
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couleur
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| Posted: Mon, 27th May 2019 09:10 Post subject: |
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Its a tiny bit under expectations regarding speeds but except from that its more or less where it should be. Competitive at a good price.
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| Posted: Mon, 27th May 2019 10:12 Post subject: |
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Lets see will there be actual IPC improvement compared to Intel.
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-XTREME-rev-10#kf 
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konkol84
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| Posted: Mon, 27th May 2019 10:23 Post subject: |
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Too bad the rumors on the 3800x being 5ghz didn't end being true. But still that will the one I'll be most likely aiming for. Let see after first real benchmarks
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| Posted: Mon, 27th May 2019 10:53 Post subject: |
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Not sure why anyone would skip this platform and considers intel as option, that 12 core / 24 thread CPU is over half of the price cheaper than similar Intel CPU (i9-9920X), Intel needs now desperate measures, as they are already doing, they are releasing "overclocked to the max" 9900K model with all cores @ 5Ghz, so they can win in excel sheets with couple %.
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| Posted: Mon, 27th May 2019 11:01 Post subject: |
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the 3800x looks good for that price tag
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tonizito
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| Posted: Mon, 27th May 2019 12:59 Post subject: |
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Pffffft.
But how does it fare in the benchmarks for horrible single threaded gamebryo games, eh? That's the REAL test right there  
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| Posted: Mon, 27th May 2019 14:01 Post subject: |
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Dat ’benchmark’ 
Actual IPC preformance is the one I’m interested in the most. If that’s even ’good enough’ I might upgrade my 7700K to 3900X.
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| Posted: Mon, 27th May 2019 14:14 Post subject: |
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the 4.0 is gonna use up to 11 volts on the motherboard alone ... dafuck they doing lol , thats more then a processors uses to watch a movie , i cant stand active cooling chipsets, so noisy bah
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| Posted: Mon, 27th May 2019 15:23 Post subject: |
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even then 3900X could have lesser single thread performance than 7700K if it's IPC is too inferior
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| Posted: Mon, 27th May 2019 15:40 Post subject: ***** |
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*****
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| Posted: Mon, 27th May 2019 16:03 Post subject: |
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| StrEagle wrote: | | even then 3900X could have lesser single thread performance than 7700K if it's IPC is too inferior |
This.
My goal is to upgrade my CPU mostly for gaming. That's why IPC is all that matters regardless of 'countless' cores. Also those 1-10 FPS differences are just not worth the hassle not to speak wasted money.
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| Posted: Mon, 27th May 2019 16:43 Post subject: |
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I love doing some render stuff in my free time and higher CPU Power is definitely welcome  Now I just have to decide if I'll take a big bunch of money and buy a Ryzen 3000 or if I'll wait til the launch and buy a cheap 2700x.
Though GPU rendering seems to make great improvements but Blender 2.8 is just crashing quickly when I use the GPU to render in real time. Also I'm totally used to cinema4d but that's ProRenderer produced shitty results and was super slow. Maybe my scenes are just built in a crappy way.
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| Posted: Mon, 27th May 2019 18:26 Post subject: ***** |
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*****
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Frant
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| Posted: Mon, 27th May 2019 19:22 Post subject: |
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Of course they did but that's not what's important here. It shows that single-thread IPC has increased to Intel's level which is nearly a miracle after all this time. AMD did good.
Not betting on AMD until the chips are released and they've been benched properly including overclocking performance (if there's any headroom for O/C'ing to begin with).
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
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| Posted: Mon, 27th May 2019 19:52 Post subject: |
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yep, we will see whats the real deal is in about 4-5 weeks. IF the 3700x (which is marketed as 65W TDP CPU) is very ocable and not artificially handicapped (maybe by the boards) it would be a steal for the announced 329usd (and would make the 3800x obsolete, only 100mhz more in Turbo, Baseclock isnt that important, which is presented with 105w tdp)
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Frant
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| Posted: Mon, 27th May 2019 20:58 Post subject: |
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That's not how it works Pickup. CPU-cores are specially tailored for CPU functions while GPU-cores are tailored for GPU tasks and the difference between CPU cores and GPU cores is the reason we're not running our computers with GPU cores (they're not good at general computing tasks).
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
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| Posted: Mon, 27th May 2019 22:04 Post subject: |
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Welp, looks like I'm gonna get the 3700X. Was hoping for a slightly lower price though, maybe there'll be a deal so I can eventually buy it for <300€.
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kalato
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| Posted: Mon, 27th May 2019 22:27 Post subject: |
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I couldn't wait any more for AMD so I got a 9900k for £200, a friend of mine had one for sale and I thought at the price its a steal, obviously I had to buy a mobo so went for a GB Z390 Master, over clocked it to 5GHz with ease.
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Badrien
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| Posted: Tue, 28th May 2019 02:28 Post subject: |
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| kalato wrote: | | I couldn't wait any more for AMD so I got a 9900k for £200, a friend of mine had one for sale and I thought at the price its a steal, obviously I had to buy a mobo so went for a GB Z390 Master, over clocked it to 5GHz with ease. |
Waiting for the 3700x or 3800x too but if someone offered me a 9900k for 200 quid I wouldnt hesitate for a second either
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| Posted: Tue, 28th May 2019 03:46 Post subject: |
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| chiv wrote: | | don't quote me on that |
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Frant
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| Posted: Tue, 28th May 2019 08:52 Post subject: |
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| kalato wrote: | | I couldn't wait any more for AMD so I got a 9900k for £200, a friend of mine had one for sale and I thought at the price its a steal, obviously I had to buy a mobo so went for a GB Z390 Master, over clocked it to 5GHz with ease. |
Damn, that's a nice price.
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
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| Posted: Tue, 28th May 2019 09:12 Post subject: |
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| cirithungol wrote: | |
Let's hope this will be true. 
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