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Gearbox should sell a version with the fix as the Super Ultimate Edition.
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Jul 2018 07:32 Post subject: |
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Could always add some Duke nukem samples and sell premium Duke edition as well.
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prudislav
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Jul 2018 08:49 Post subject: |
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Lol just a typo... Well, typos are pretty common thing as programmer, especially on such huge and complex projects like games, what surprises me is that noone noticed this typo until now
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tonizito
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Jul 2018 10:50 Post subject: |
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Remember this shit when they announce borderlands 3 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Jul 2018 13:32 Post subject: |
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I never actually played this, as I didn't want to suffer a mental breakdown. Would this one error really 'fix' the whole game? Has anyone actually tried it?
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Jul 2018 13:39 Post subject: |
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| Kaltern wrote: | | I never actually played this, as I didn't want to suffer a mental breakdown. Would this one error really 'fix' the whole game? Has anyone actually tried it? |
It's a rather annoying game. But if you want an Aliens game desperately then maybe try it. Just don't rage too much, if it's annoying uninstall it. And of couse don't pay money for it.
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Jul 2018 13:45 Post subject: |
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| Kaltern wrote: | | Has anyone actually tried it? |
here is for PCGamer guy says:
| Quote: | In my experience, they're not only considerably more aggressive, they're also much better at tracking the player. As an experiment, I tried just running away from one, a maneuver which would normally confound a xenomorph, and it stayed right on my tail.
The change is less noticeable in some situations, and it's tough to say just from playing how much of the xenomorphs' clumsiness was caused by this typo, but they certainly seem to move more efficiently once it's corrected. They waste less time getting to the player, crawl and lunge more often, and generally move in more of a beeline rather than their usual drunken stroll. I mean, they're still plenty dopey, but hey, what did you expect? |
https://www.pcgamer.com/all-this-time-aliens-colonial-marines-stupid-ai-may-have-been-caused-by-a-single-typo/ |
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Jul 2018 16:45 Post subject: |
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| jackbomb wrote: | https://www.resetera.com/threads/aliens-colonial-marines-ai-fixed-by-a-single-letter.55247/
| Quote: | Inside your games config file (My Document\My Games\Aliens Colonial Marines\PecanGame\Config\PecanEngine.ini) is the following line of code :
ClassRemapping=PecanGame.PecanSeqAct_AttachXenoToTether -> PecanGame.PecanSeqAct_AttachPawnToTeather
Im sure you'll notice the spelling mistake
ClassRemapping=PecanGame.PecanSeqAct_AttachXenoToTether -> PecanGame.PecanSeqAct_AttachPawnToTether
If you fix it to look like the above and then play the game, the difference is pretty crazy!
Why is this line important? There are two reasons :
1) AttachXenoToTeather doesn't do anything. Its basically empty or stripped
2) AttachPawnToTether does ALOT. It controls tactical position adjustment, patrolling and target zoning
When a Xeno is spawned, it is attached to a zone tether. This zone tells the Xeno what area is its fighting space and where different exits are. In Combat, a Xeno will be forced to switch to a new tether (such as one behind you) so as to flank, or disperse so they aren't so grouped up etc. (*disclaimer* this is inferred opinion, I cant see the actual code only bits)
Whenever the game tried to do this, nothing happened. Now it does! |
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Jul 2018 16:49 Post subject: |
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Is that honestly something that still exists in the up to date version? :O
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Jul 2018 17:11 Post subject: |
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| Stormwolf wrote: | | Is that honestly something that still exists in the up to date version? :O |
Yup.
| Ars Technica wrote: |
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This 2017 post came shortly after the release of the group's final "Game Over, Man!" patch, which, among many other fixes, overwrites this INI file with the typo's correction. Turns out, as of press time, the patch is still useful. Gearbox has not updated the game's PC version since July 2013, and the typo is still there.
On Friday, Ars re-downloaded and tested the game, exactly as served by Steam, through the opening beats of two missions. Then, we replayed those missions after editing the "teather" typo in the aforementioned INI file. In both missions, xenomorph AI improved dramatically once the typo was corrected, with monsters immediately taking advantage of elevated attack positions, hiding points, and multi-monster flanks. The difference is night-and-day.
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Jul 2018 17:31 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Jul 2018 17:37 Post subject: |
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well there was a GFX and AI patch back then... and to me it looks quite good for such an old game (ofc with film grain off)
edit: I never touched old version
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Jul 2018 18:00 Post subject: |
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I finished it but fucking hell it was bad. Had to force myself through it.
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Jul 2018 19:45 Post subject: ***** |
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*****
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Jul 2018 20:51 Post subject: |
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Sorry Areius but what you just described is pretty terrible and yet you say its not as bad as some describe it. 
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Jul 2018 21:28 Post subject: |
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| Morphineus wrote: | | Stormwolf wrote: | | Is that honestly something that still exists in the up to date version? :O |
Yup.
| Ars Technica wrote: |
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This 2017 post came shortly after the release of the group's final "Game Over, Man!" patch, which, among many other fixes, overwrites this INI file with the typo's correction. Turns out, as of press time, the patch is still useful. Gearbox has not updated the game's PC version since July 2013, and the typo is still there.
On Friday, Ars re-downloaded and tested the game, exactly as served by Steam, through the opening beats of two missions. Then, we replayed those missions after editing the "teather" typo in the aforementioned INI file. In both missions, xenomorph AI improved dramatically once the typo was corrected, with monsters immediately taking advantage of elevated attack positions, hiding points, and multi-monster flanks. The difference is night-and-day.
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I envision a team of idiots scrambling around not figuring out what the hell is wrong with the ai, and in the end just releasing it anyway
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Jul 2018 22:14 Post subject: |
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The AI was stupidly aggressive in my case, so no thanks, I don't want to make it even more.
| consolitis wrote: | That's the opposite of my experience. I kept dying because random Xenos were spawning and attacking me the very last second.
If he managed to make the game easier or rather more fair, good. Even more difficult? Fuck no.
From a couple of pages ago (third post is mine):
| VGAdeadcafe wrote: | Holy shit I'm playing this in Hardened and I can't even go past that point in the hangar where you protect the guy hacking the door, I just get swarmed and instakilled, I died 10 times in a row
The other guys are a little useless and the reloading gets me killed.
I've never failed so badly in a FPS game. HALP ! |
| DarkRohirrim wrote: | | If you want to play this play it on normal or even easy. It's really hard, but not in a good way. The checkpoints are also pretty unforgiving. I did actually finish this entirely and I liked it. I still think it's not a very good game, but it's nowhere near as bad as some people make it seem, not in the current state anyway. They did improve it quite a lot, but I guess there was a limit to how much they could go with that as well. Also, the DLC was pretty much just better. The thing I find the worst in this game is just how frustrating it is at times. |
| consolitis wrote: | Don't worry, I have no problem playing FPS games on normal and in this one I kept dying again and again and again and again until I dropped the difficulty to easy.
Extremely unfair difficulty. I shit-deleted it later anyway. |
| VGAdeadcafe wrote: | I think they upped the difficulty after some patch, I'm playing the 1.4.0 Limited edition by Prophet.
I think they got rid of the retardedness of the aliens. But now it's kinda unbalanced, it seems I have to cheese my way through this encounter somehow, or get lucky with the grenades. The aliens move in fast and they're many. |
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Jul 2018 03:24 Post subject: |
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Haha! The game was one of our biggest gaming disappointments but at least we got some entertainment out of it, just..not the type of entertainment that we were hoping for
Now we'd need another spelling mistake that adds a level design that isn't insulting, one that takes care of the pea shooting, one for the embarrassing "atmosphere" and "story", and the final one that automatically shift-deletes the game after 15 minutes 
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Jul 2018 11:09 Post subject: ***** |
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*****
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| Posted: Mon, 16th Jul 2018 19:06 Post subject: |
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Reminds me of when i tried to get more than 2 grass types / per ground texture to show up in Skyrim for my mod.. you have to spell texture wrong (texure) in the .ini to get it to work (iMaxGrassTypesPerTexure).. really took ages to figure that one out since it's supposed to NOT be spelled correctly.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Mon, 16th Jul 2018 19:24 Post subject: |
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Yeah, tes and nuFallout have a few cases of that happening
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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