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vurt
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I quite regret my purchase that i did at release.. never got around using it much at all really, played maybe 8h in total. I think the most fun with it was showing it to my brother's children and watching their reactions.
Bought for around 900 euro, sold it for 300 euro. rarely you lose this much when selling electronics (well except for super old tech of course).
I will probably try to stay away from supporting Oculus/facebook if i ever buy VR again, i really despise Zuckerberg..
Initially it's quite mind blowing (the first 3-5h), but this effect wears off quickly and its just very cumbersome, irritating and uncomfortable to wear. The most impressive aspect of it is really the controls, the rest is light years from being something i would prefer to a screen or to 3D Vision.
The screens with its "binocular" effect is not great either, you can also see the black middle part the glasses as you're watching the screen/3D, which sucks, even if its often vague and you forget about it after a while. I dont have that at all with 3D Vision glasses and the 3D is actually more impressive too, the 3D in Oculus is very flat in comparison.
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| Posted: Wed, 23rd May 2018 23:36 Post subject: |
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| bxrdj wrote: | | Where do you guys get all this bad information ... wow. Rift is absolutely bundled with the touch controllers all u need is extra sensor for room scale. Most of the games on steam are playable on the Rift. This post above me is just talking out of his ass lol. |
Without room scale, the sensors are useless and during the highest sales period, it sold with zero sensors. Stop beating about the bush - Oculus split its user base in two and it's a dumb thing to do since devs hate a split user base when the user base is pretty small as is.
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bxrdj
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| Posted: Wed, 23rd May 2018 23:56 Post subject: |
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| red_avatar wrote: | | bxrdj wrote: | | Where do you guys get all this bad information ... wow. Rift is absolutely bundled with the touch controllers all u need is extra sensor for room scale. Most of the games on steam are playable on the Rift. This post above me is just talking out of his ass lol. |
Without room scale, the sensors are useless and during the highest sales period, it sold with zero sensors. Stop beating about the bush - Oculus split its user base in two and it's a dumb thing to do since devs hate a split user base when the user base is pretty small as is. |
That is complete horseshit - they even did a reddit vote on how many people didnt upgrade to at least two sensors and its extremely minimal. This also happened so long ago and oculus has been selling for $400 with two sensors for a good while now. Adding a third sensor is a breeze and boom - room scale - still miles cheaper than Vive or any other competition.
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bxrdj
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| Posted: Thu, 24th May 2018 00:01 Post subject: |
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| vurt wrote: | I quite regret my purchase that i did at release.. never got around using it much at all really, played maybe 8h in total. I think the most fun with it was showing it to my brother's children and watching their reactions.
Bought for around 900 euro, sold it for 300 euro. rarely you lose this much when selling electronics (well except for super old tech of course).
I will probably try to stay away from supporting Oculus/facebook if i ever buy VR again, i really despise Zuckerberg..
Initially it's quite mind blowing (the first 3-5h), but this effect wears off quickly and its just very cumbersome, irritating and uncomfortable to wear. The most impressive aspect of it is really the controls, the rest is light years from being something i would prefer to a screen or to 3D Vision.
The screens with its "binocular" effect is not great either, you can also see the black middle part the glasses as you're watching the screen/3D, which sucks, even if its often vague and you forget about it after a while. I dont have that at all with 3D Vision glasses and the 3D is actually more impressive too, the 3D in Oculus is very flat in comparison. |
Have you played Lone Echo or Robo Recall for example? Also I heard some people might have different perceptional issues with VR as I dont seem to have mostly any issues you mention here but I did hear such experiences before. 3D and the feeling of realistic spacial assets in the game is the main thing that got me into VR and 2d/3d via monitor is just not on the level even at higher resolutions. Also - what kind of system? with a 1080ti I am able to really crank up supersampling which improves image quality greatly without affecting performance. Point is things also got much better from the original days of VR in terms of how everything runs and feels internally. Wearing an HMD and how it feels and looks will always be a bit goofy no way around that haha
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vurt
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| Posted: Thu, 24th May 2018 00:08 Post subject: |
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I did not like Robo Recall, i thought it was exceptionally dull. The best game i played in VR was probably Half Life 2 (with previous version of Oculus Rift..)
Doom 3 VR was also decent or even great for a game not made for VR to start with.. But its such a dull fucking game too, its fun for an hour or two. I played something similar to Lone Echo before selling the Oculus, didn't like it either.. cant remember the name.
Also when i play games i want to spend many hours with the game, not 20 minutes and then having to take it all off because you're getting uncomfortable, hot or need to rest etc.. no, its not for me. When its wireless, lighter and covers less of the face (hate having the nose almost covered entirely) and there's no annoying binocular view i will try it again.
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bxrdj
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| Posted: Thu, 24th May 2018 00:36 Post subject: |
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| vurt wrote: | I did not like Robo Recall, i thought it was exceptionally dull. The best game i played in VR was probably Half Life 2 (with previous version of Oculus Rift..)
Doom 3 VR was also decent or even great for a game not made for VR to start with.. But its such a dull fucking game too, its fun for an hour or two. I played something similar to Lone Echo before selling the Oculus, didn't like it either.. cant remember the name.
Also when i play games i want to spend many hours with the game, not 20 minutes and then having to take it all off because you're getting uncomfortable, hot or need to rest etc.. no, its not for me. When its wireless, lighter and covers less of the face (hate having the nose almost covered entirely) and there's no annoying binocular view i will try it again. |
Completely understood - there is a level of investment you have to make in order to enjoy VR properly and not everyone is ready to invest in some of the discomforts. I have high hopes in the second and third generation of HMDs ...
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| Posted: Fri, 25th May 2018 05:15 Post subject: |
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Im amazed people cant enjoy the feeling of vr, i quite enjoyed everything i played. I would buy it again if it broke.
Arizona Sunshine is amazing, it shows what a game should be in VR
I expect you to die, so much fun.
Beat saber, its an experience. Not a groundbreak but its fun, like an arcade gimmick.
Onwards, and Pavlov, oh boy.
Superhot, subnautica (oh boy, its amazing)
Its not gonna replace normal gameplay but everytime i fire it up im just happy and i enjoy it quite a bit. Specially drifting online in assetto corsa, ohhh god. such a rush.
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| Posted: Fri, 25th May 2018 06:07 Post subject: |
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I very much enjoyed just sitting in the little mountain-top mansion and using windows on the big screen to setup various settings an watch a bit of youtube.
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| Posted: Fri, 25th May 2018 10:39 Post subject: |
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I love playing Virtual Reality games. Especially horror games, it is such a great experience.
I hope they add more AAA horror games to Virtual Reality.
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mtj
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| Posted: Fri, 25th May 2018 10:50 Post subject: |
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Yea, VR is an awesome experience. I think the biggest problem is that it's still cumbersome to use. (and resolution is too bad for some games, Fallout for example, I tried playing it on survival difficulty, but due to the aiming difficulties it was just not possible)
If it was something extremely light, no need to go and setup crap always. (especially if you have issue with space, it's nightmare... I have to move my computer to living room for VR always (I have my gaming laptop there but it's not powerful enough to run all the VR games)).
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Kaltern
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| Posted: Fri, 25th May 2018 10:54 Post subject: |
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I find right now, that some games are simply not going to fit within the limitations of VR. Graphics simply cannot be high resolution with intricate detail, but they CAN be designed to still look correct within the VR environment.
For example, while Elite Dangerous does look pretty stunning, because the game of course, predominately designed for monitors, the text and smaller details just look terrible in VR. EVE Valkyrie on the other hand, looks pretty good and clear, because text is larger when required and not used if possible, which makes perfect sense.
Star Trek Bridge Crew looks particularly good in VR, again, because the displays are made for VR, bit bold text and controls, which you don't need to squint at to read.
Of course resolution is an immediate concern, but considering what the best of VR is offering right now, limited by todays technology - which lets face it, isn't all that bad - is nothing short of stunning.
The iPhone was, lets face it, utterly crap when it was first launched, but somehow became one of the most tehnologically advanced smartphones we have (ugh, I feel naseous now), because it was improved upon over time. The current VR sets are that starting point, and as all great tech has to start from somewhere, it's not going to be very long before we get VR that most people will nod and smile at.
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bxrdj
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| Posted: Fri, 25th May 2018 17:03 Post subject: |
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I'm currently stuck on Skyrim in God mode - yes just walking around being unstoppable ...
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Kaltern
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| Posted: Fri, 25th May 2018 17:19 Post subject: |
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I can see that being excessive fun. I may have to try it. With a lightsaber mod...
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| Posted: Tue, 29th May 2018 00:58 Post subject: |
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Okay I tried the forest. It's the first vr game thats impressed me and shown me the capability of vr gaming. In other words the first game that took immersion to another level for me. The controls were all fucked up though (i'll have to read the instructions or calibrate something no doubt) and I couldn't navigate or manouvere my avatar properly without him teleporting randomly and being unable to actually turn around.. but for the short length of time I tried it I was well impressed. Will deffo go back to it soon. The space I have to use VR is so damn limited however, the pc is basically in a tiny box room and i hit the controllers on the desk a few times while playing this. I'll have to sort it out as i'm worried i'm accidentally gonna put the controller through my monitor screen at some point.
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Kaltern
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| Posted: Wed, 26th Sep 2018 21:46 Post subject: |
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Oh yes, because the mobile platform has all the power you need for convincing VR experiences (and is cheaper to make, has less requirements and is easier to code...')
Pimax is going to steal the PC VR show I think...
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zmed
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| Posted: Tue, 25th Dec 2018 15:25 Post subject: |
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Invested in Beat Saber. Yeah, it's great fun, and although importing custom songs is not as straightforward as in Audiosurf, once you get things in order it will give an in-game browser for new songs. Very handy, but the selection is not nearly as great as I hoped.
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Ankh
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Mar 2019 22:50 Post subject: |
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Not sure if we have general VR thread, but will post it anyway here, getting tomorrow Pimax 5K glasses, finally arrived! Anyone else got them?
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Mar 2019 23:06 Post subject: |
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New pc oculus incoming spring 2019 400$
https://www.oculus.com/blog/announcing-oculus-rift-s-our-new-pc-vr-headset-launching-spring-2019/
Higher resolution
Better optics
Full room scale inside outside tracking with no external cameras
Touch controlers look updated but if they dont add finger tracking, knuckles will "knock" it out of the park
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Kaltern
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| Posted: Thu, 21st Mar 2019 01:27 Post subject: |
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Ankh
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| Posted: Thu, 21st Mar 2019 20:32 Post subject: |
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I wonder what the cost of the new Oculus will actually be when released. In europe that is.
shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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Kaltern
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| Posted: Thu, 21st Mar 2019 20:59 Post subject: |
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£€399 I imagine.
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couleur
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| Posted: Tue, 7th May 2019 10:40 Post subject: |
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After a few years of my DK2 gathering dust on the shelf, I decided to get into VR again and ordered a Samsung Odyssey+ from US, since its unavailable in EU.
It is kinda affordable compared to the other top tier headsets. I pay $480, shipment, taxes etc. all included, from Amazon.com.
Supposedly its screen is really good. Though controllers arent. But I want to see if I can watch movies in it.
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| Posted: Tue, 7th May 2019 17:34 Post subject: |
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-Removed full body tracking and replaced it with...in headset cams that cant track behind you. Already reports stating FPS games are not working when touchpads are directly in front of the 'new' in headset sensors. I'll keep my three ceiling mounted sensors...
-Removed built in headset which was outstanding it..now go by your own headset and wear two straps
-Touch contollers are now upside down and feel off balanced. Oculus already has finger tracking (thumb+index). If you feel paying $600 extra for the Knuckles to get those extra three digits tracked,, I will continue to laugh
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. Is there anything else worth checking out?. I didn't realise halflife 2 could be played in vr so i'll deffo try that out. Oh, elite and redout too which is like a wipeout clone, I already had and also rise of tomb raider in my library which can also be played in vr.
