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WaldoJ
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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Jan 2018 02:44    Post subject:
serious garbage for sake of shock and awe
i get it they had this season planned out
but no build up, at all, what so ever to ANYTHING.
i'm klingon! in human form! KLINGON I AM! ARRRGH!
alright cool... WHY MAKE HIM THAT CHARACTER?!
why not some random klingon? like...

also leader emperor... of course it's that person. why else would it be?
now she can't kill the emperor and take down the evil empire because emotions?
emperor should have been a rando... a young kirk or some shit.
a young piccard. some one else. Someone where they'll look it up on their own database see he's a nobody.

who says that a mirror universe has to be in the same timeline? like... there's no rules.


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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Jan 2018 13:38    Post subject:
This is not a star trek, Orville has more in common with the star trek than this shit. After stupid enterprise series, there the first thing that was off for me was the theme music it was not instrumental that was the first thing and then the actual series... it was all downhill from there on. Sad

Good thing I still have all the old Star trek series to watch. Smile


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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Jan 2018 00:20    Post subject:
I'm reading on reddit atm that the show has got better. Anyone here can confirm this?


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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Jan 2018 03:25    Post subject:
Mirror side is eh.
It's not Star Trek but set in Star Trek.
Don't watch it because oooo Star Trek.
It's decent for a sloppy sci fi show.
But the twists and shit are gaaay but with time invested... watch it till it gets cancelled. May not have season 2


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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Jan 2018 07:45    Post subject:
WaldoJ wrote:
Mirror side is eh.
It's not Star Trek but set in Star Trek.
Don't watch it because oooo Star Trek.
It's decent for a sloppy sci fi show.
But the twists and shit are gaaay but with time invested... watch it till it gets cancelled. May not have season 2


I agree.


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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Jan 2018 14:08    Post subject:
h0rnyfavn wrote:
I'm reading on reddit atm that the show has got better. Anyone here can confirm this?

The last ep was very good, a major character is making sense now. The problem with this show is the lack of build up to anything, everything is in a rush and we have time lapses. So most of the time shit just happens. The writing won't get better this season, I assume they already have a grand plan in place, so hopefully they'll improve the writing next season.
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Jan 2018 14:43    Post subject:
He always made sense though.
The twist didn't suddenly make his actions valid.
He was a captain with unorthodox ideas.
He's still a captain with unorthodox ideas.
Maybe motives are clearer now... but he always made sense.


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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Jan 2018 16:20    Post subject:
h0rnyfavn wrote:
I'm reading on reddit atm that the show has got better. Anyone here can confirm this?


I found the storyline in the last few episodes more interesting than the previous ones, but the writing is still meh at best, with a touch of cringe every now and then.

They are really failing to make me feel anything for the characters.

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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Jan 2018 16:52    Post subject:
AnarchoS wrote:
This is not a star trek, Orville has more in common with the star trek than this shit. After stupid enterprise series, there the first thing that was off for me was the theme music it was not instrumental that was the first thing and then the actual series... it was all downhill from there on. Sad

Good thing I still have all the old Star trek series to watch. Smile


randomly saw one episode of Orville on TV and it was a court case about genders and strong females. They can shove that show so far up their asses that they won't be able to walk for the next decade.
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Jan 2018 17:06    Post subject:
Well we all wanted MOAR agenda-driven diversity / inclusivity in just about.. everything! Smug


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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Jan 2018 18:18    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
AnarchoS wrote:
This is not a star trek, Orville has more in common with the star trek than this shit. After stupid enterprise series, there the first thing that was off for me was the theme music it was not instrumental that was the first thing and then the actual series... it was all downhill from there on. Sad

Good thing I still have all the old Star trek series to watch. Smile


randomly saw one episode of Orville on TV and it was a court case about genders and strong females. They can shove that show so far up their asses that they won't be able to walk for the next decade.


That episode took gender politics and threw them out a window. It was about what's good for their culture not all culture all together.

Orville is cheesy and fun. It's st:tos with a modern budget.
It explores its universe even though it's a rehash of a lot of Star Trek episodes... it still has a genuine feel to it.

Discovery is just set in a Star Trek universe. More of a mini series. Like. 22 episode story arch. Not nearly coverd in 4 episodes like Star Trek would do.


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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Jan 2018 18:56    Post subject:
WaldoJ wrote:
Stormwolf wrote:
AnarchoS wrote:
This is not a star trek, Orville has more in common with the star trek than this shit. After stupid enterprise series, there the first thing that was off for me was the theme music it was not instrumental that was the first thing and then the actual series... it was all downhill from there on. Sad

Good thing I still have all the old Star trek series to watch. Smile


randomly saw one episode of Orville on TV and it was a court case about genders and strong females. They can shove that show so far up their asses that they won't be able to walk for the next decade.


That episode took gender politics and threw them out a window. It was about what's good for their culture not all culture all together.

Orville is cheesy and fun. It's st:tos with a modern budget.
It explores its universe even though it's a rehash of a lot of Star Trek episodes... it still has a genuine feel to it.

Discovery is just set in a Star Trek universe. More of a mini series. Like. 22 episode story arch. Not nearly coverd in 4 episodes like Star Trek would do.


I watched Discovery first and really enjoyed it for what it is. I didn't judge or weigh up pros and cons against the other Star Trek series. I love Scifi shit in any flavour Smile

Now i am watching Orville, myself and the wife are enjoying the hell out of it. Even though i have the feeling sometimes, hold on didn't they do this in STNG? it still feels original, fresh and funny. A must watch for any Scifi fan i'd say.


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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Jan 2018 12:33    Post subject:
Except it feels more like Fantasy than Sci-Fi.

I still can't grasp my mind around that shit spore drive lol.
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Jan 2018 14:02    Post subject:
I'm 2 eps behind but i still disagree with those that dont like this. I am really enjoying it. Maybe I'm not a trekky at heart Smile Or I'm in my 30's and you're all a gen or two older than me Smile


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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Jan 2018 14:26    Post subject:
Horrordee wrote:
I'm 2 eps behind but i still disagree with those that dont like this. I am really enjoying it. Maybe I'm not a trekky at heart Smile Or I'm in my 30's and you're all a gen or two older than me Smile


I think you been watching too much British TV Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Jan 2018 16:23    Post subject:
u can add kung fu in space to my list

while they add it, im waiting for tits n lesbian scenes ...
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Jan 2018 16:23    Post subject:
Very nice episode.
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Jan 2018 19:10    Post subject:
if u like medieval sword n daggers in a fracking space ship with no klingons in sight
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Jan 2018 21:12    Post subject:
The characters are well developed.
The Star Trek lore in this series is is not.

That's it.


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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Jan 2018 09:56    Post subject:
The thing that gets me is the utter dreariness of the show. It's getting me down just watching it. Meh!


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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Feb 2018 20:09    Post subject:
Very weak final episode. "Follow me as your leader or I blow up the planet" was ridiculous. They need to replace the entire writing team for a second season, they fucked up the show.
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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Feb 2018 21:38    Post subject:
I can't believe how bad this is, I mean what the actual fuck. The Orville is so much better than this, it doesn't even feel like Star Trek to me, more like a pretty meh sci-fi drama.

They should just scrap this and get the TNG crew back together and have them traverse the galaxy looking for a retirement planet with a few bumps along the way Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Feb 2018 23:45    Post subject:
The whole boring-ass Klingon war storyline comes to a conclusion in the ultimate borefest final episode. I don't think they could have made it less exciting if they tried.
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Feb 2018 23:41    Post subject:
Wow. That was the worst written episode in ANY Star Trek show/movie ever. This show is really dead to me now.


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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Feb 2018 03:27    Post subject:
It was a cop out, like they had written themselves into a corner and quickly had to resolve it. Last 20mins everything went downhill. Too bad, because some earlier eps were really good.
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Feb 2018 12:31    Post subject:
I had the feeling they had to cut short the storyline. Maybe they planned on continuing this storyline in s2 and someone higher up said to cut the crap. If that is the case, someone should give that guy a medal.
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Feb 2018 16:12    Post subject:
"I'm your leader now because you know, I have this human gadget... don't ask me how I got it... and I SWEAR I can blow up the whole planet with this. You just have to take my word for it. And only I can activate it. And now no one dares to kill me in my sleep, making this whole plan pointless, Y'all"
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PostPosted: Wed, 21st Feb 2018 19:15    Post subject:
I try to watch it to the end because of new RLM video but god it's painful.

The writing... gods, the writing...

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PostPosted: Wed, 21st Feb 2018 21:32    Post subject:
What other choice did she have?
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PostPosted: Wed, 21st Feb 2018 21:54    Post subject:
I don't know because I can't predict what bullshit the writers will pull. The rules don't apply.

We have a scene where some lousy officer try to assassinate his captain but later the Emperor just casualy spare a person from other universe because she looks like someone she loves or says she loves.
And I as a viewer I'm set in circumstances that we are in a place where only strength is respected and suddenly it doesn't matter because plot must go forward. Burnham is acting like a schisophrenic, she suppose to be this logical product of Vulkan scholarship but really makes dumb as fuck decisions.

I'm forced to sympathise with ruthless fantasy racist ruler because boohoo she lost a daughter but two episodes earlier I saw her killing a planet full of resistance fighter and kill off almost all of her council but when she is alone with Micheal she is just some pussy and good and honorable Vomit . I can't predict anything because the writers change everything so their stupid plot could be resolved.
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