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@TheZor | Quote: | | It's mostly the fact that he ain't the male Hollywood actor stereotype stereotype |
Ehh...no. He just look kinda ridiculous and his character is a very annoying whiny baby. 
In other words, bad writing doesn't help it either
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Il_Padrino
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Dec 2017 19:22 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Dec 2017 19:23 Post subject: |
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Empire Strikes Back is my most favourite movie of the old trilogy by far. Then it's Return of the Jedi and then New Hope. It just feels weird nowadays, didn't really age well and doesn't have good enough characters to get by with them as a basis.
As for the new movies, I liked VII quite a bit, despite the heavy fan service. It copied many ideas, but also turned some on their heads, especially when it comes to characters. I'm actually another rare vote in favour of Driver - to be honest, I found his character really refreshing. I probably couldn't have stomached another stereotypical Sith looming and glooming around (though we'll probably get that anyway - with Snoke).
I think Kylo's role in the movie is actually completely different from Vader's in the old trilogy. The audience doesn't always take him seriously, but I don't think it's even supposed to - I mean, even his people don't (and there are scenes that show that), so why would we? He's a ruse, really, a boy playing someone he's not - a dangerous boy, since he definitely is strong in the Force - but a boy nonetheless. He's immature, overly emotional and generally broken, but that's precisely what they were going for - it's not as if they tried to make another Vader and failed. The moment he takes his mask off, you kinda realize you've been played, but that's the whole idea.
I don't know why so many people expect every dark side character in Star Wars to follow the same stereotype. Evil/broken people can be immature, whiny, or even stupid, just like the good ones. In fact, considering how dark side works, I'd say it's much more appropriate for him to be the way he is, given his age, than to be a cold and calculating Vader clone.
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Dec 2017 19:50 Post subject: |
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| Il_Padrino wrote: | I guess someone forgot the moment we see Vader's face 
What a bad-ass
I think the contrast with his masked alter ego was pulled off a lot better with Kylo Ren than with Vader, so they actually did something better than the OT there 
Also, since TFO, I've seen other movies with Adam Driver, and he's genuinely a really good actor. |
Ahah, that's true ! Well, I loved that he looked so frail in the end Could have looked less like an egg though
Silence in which Adam Driver starred was pretty interesting, also featuring the worst Jedi Master in the history ( Liam Neeson ) - it's not for everyone, but I enjoyed it.
| Aquma wrote: | Empire Strikes Back is my most favourite movie of the old trilogy by far. Then it's Return of the Jedi and then New Hope. It just feels weird nowadays, didn't really age well and doesn't have good enough characters to get by with them as a basis.
As for the new movies, I liked VII quite a bit, despite the heavy fan service. It copied many ideas, but also turned some on their heads, especially when it comes to characters. I'm actually another rare vote in favour of Driver - to be honest, I found his character really refreshing. I probably couldn't have stomached another stereotypical Sith looming and glooming around (though we'll probably get that anyway - with Snoke).
I think Kylo's role in the movie is actually completely different from Vader's in the old trilogy. The audience doesn't always take him seriously, but I don't think it's even supposed to - I mean, even his people don't (and there are scenes that show that), so why would we? He's a ruse, really, a boy playing someone he's not - a dangerous boy, since he definitely is strong in the Force - but a boy nonetheless. He's immature, overly emotional and generally broken, but that's precisely what they were going for - it's not as if they tried to make another Vader and failed. The moment he takes his mask off, you kinda realize you've been played, but that's the whole idea.
I don't know why so many people expect every dark side character in Star Wars to follow the same stereotype. Evil/broken people can be immature, whiny, or even stupid, just like the good ones. In fact, considering how dark side works, I'd say it's much more appropriate for him to be the way he is, given his age, than to be a cold and calculating Vader clone. |
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| Posted: Sun, 10th Dec 2017 16:23 Post subject: |
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Picture book leak gives details what Finn does after he wakes up (Movie spoilers):
https://imgur.com/a/4PmLT
1 and 2 are still amazing.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Mon, 11th Dec 2017 16:25 Post subject: |
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Meh.
If disney computes that it's going to mean more buts in seats they'll do it anyway.
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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thudo
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| Posted: Mon, 11th Dec 2017 17:21 Post subject: |
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Oh gawd how.. shocking...  The Ghey be everywhere... 
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tonizito
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| Posted: Mon, 11th Dec 2017 18:34 Post subject: |
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Huh.
My employer just sent me an email asking me if I wanted a ticket for this. They've apparently reserved a session for the employees. Ofc I turned it down but used it to tease the SW fanbois from the other companies here that don't have the same benefits
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Mon, 11th Dec 2017 19:36 Post subject: |
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@tonizito
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thudo
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| Posted: Mon, 11th Dec 2017 19:53 Post subject: |
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Reserving for Sat morning... too easy mein to get tickets... last two SWs including Rogue One was a joke getting seats.. just go in the morning and have popcorn for breakfast! Btw, we're talking high end theater here with all those stupid extras.
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| Posted: Tue, 12th Dec 2017 10:48 Post subject: |
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RSS feed set to alert for crappy cam rip 
1 and 2 are still amazing.
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| Posted: Tue, 12th Dec 2017 11:52 Post subject: Thinking about it |
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Hope it will be better than the last one.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Wed, 13th Dec 2017 02:14 Post subject: |
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meh, early reviews are mostly meaningless IMO
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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chiv
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| Posted: Wed, 13th Dec 2017 04:11 Post subject: |
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let me guess.. theyre all glowing? like they were for that dull shitfest force awakens? people are so in love with the memory of the franchise they fall over themselves to declare it the best thing evarrrr
8 star wars films out excluding this one, yes? so far ive only been impressed by, and enjoyed 4 (though 2 of those only barely qualify)
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| Posted: Wed, 13th Dec 2017 08:50 Post subject: |
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| chiv wrote: | let me guess.. theyre all glowing? like they were for that dull shitfest force awakens? people are so in love with the memory of the franchise they fall over themselves to declare it the best thing evarrrr
8 star wars films out excluding this one, yes? so far ive only been impressed by, and enjoyed 4 (though 2 of those only barely qualify) |
7 films excluding this one, yes ! ( I-II-III--IV-V-VI--VII )
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chiv
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