Tyranny (Obsidian's new RPG)
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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Sep 2017 21:24    Post subject:
HubU wrote:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
HubU wrote:
Never played it, is it worth it?
Cheerio.


Yes.


Thank fo' da holla, german nigga!

Yeah, it's pretty fun for the moment. Only played like 1h30, but it's refreshing in a sense.
I think I might grow a bit tired of it in some way, but for the moment, I'm gonna play it again soon for sure.

Thanks for the answer Cool

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TBH at least story wise i liked Tyranny much more than DOS2 so far.
Combat in Tyranny was pretty good too.
Overall it was an improvement in pretty much all aspects to PoE.

The ending sucks hard though. Embarassed


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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Sep 2017 21:39    Post subject:
is it played with 1 character or an orgy of characters?


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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Sep 2017 21:41    Post subject:
You play with an orgy.
Not sure if you can play solo though.


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Aquma




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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Sep 2017 00:03    Post subject:
Technically you can, just like with any other game like this. Tyranny has a pretty open character leveling system, so it should be quite possible to build one character who'll be able to overcome different challenges, be it an optimized, cookie-cutter build, or something else altogether. Hell, I know people soloed PoE Path of the Damned, including dragons, so Tyranny should be a breeze Laughing

Anyways, I managed to play through the DLC content before Divinity 2 came out. It's solid, but it doesn't really stand out in any way. It's just more of Tyranny, which is a good thing in my book. A really cool dungeon, some quests, a few nice companion quests. Not a bad thing at all, but definitely overpriced. It does make the game better, however.
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Sep 2017 03:57    Post subject:
Bob Barnsen wrote:

Overall it was an improvement in pretty much all aspects to PoE.

The ending sucks hard though. Embarassed


I dropped PoE real early. And this is my gripe with this game; I don't feel like I'm engaged in it. They "force" you into an early choice, and I doubt it's one that really matters.

That's why, despite your warning, I won't care about Tranny's ending. It's a world that I find so binary that it's neither engaging nor intriguing.
I'll stay, atm, for the challenge, but not for long I guess.

Thanks for the recommendation nonetheless Bob. It reminded me of BGII for a short moment, and that's as good as praises go, and I'm glad to give it a try.
I hope to find some kind of fondness for it soon.

Cheerio + <3 Smile


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Aquma




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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Sep 2017 08:58    Post subject:
Actually, you're not forced into anything Smile Technically you have to make a choice, but you can change your mind and betray people you allied with in many different moments throughout the story. Hell, you can even betray everyone and decide only your ambition matters. And it does matter a lot - it changes locations you'll see, quests you'll do and general fuckedupness you'll encounter (with Voices of Nerat being generally higher on the "fucked up" scale"). In this regard the game is actually leaps and bounds ahead of any other isometric RPG I've played.

Also, how is it binary? Not trying to change your mind or anything, just curious about your perspective Smile
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Sep 2017 09:36    Post subject:
HubU wrote:
Bob Barnsen wrote:

Overall it was an improvement in pretty much all aspects to PoE.

The ending sucks hard though. Embarassed


I dropped PoE real early. And this is my gripe with this game; I don't feel like I'm engaged in it. They "force" you into an early choice, and I doubt it's one that really matters.

That's why, despite your warning, I won't care about Tranny's ending. It's a world that I find so binary that it's neither engaging nor intriguing.
I'll stay, atm, for the challenge, but not for long I guess.

Thanks for the recommendation nonetheless Bob. It reminded me of BGII for a short moment, and that's as good as praises go, and I'm glad to give it a try.
I hope to find some kind of fondness for it soon.

Cheerio + <3 Smile


Hand in your pc gamer card material right there.. perhaps gears of war is more up your alley?
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HubU
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Sep 2017 13:28    Post subject:
Aquma wrote:

Also, how is it binary? Not trying to change your mind or anything, just curious about your perspective Smile


Well, I'll expand on that if I'm actually right. I need more playtime to get the right idea.
I mean, since I'm that early in the game, it might seem like I'm on a bit of a "rail", but then again, it might just be the "tutorial" part of it.


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Hand in your pc gamer card material right there.. perhaps gears of war is more up your alley?


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Stige




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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Sep 2017 14:01    Post subject:
So is this game worth trying out after DOS2?
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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Sep 2017 16:48    Post subject:
Sure, why not? It has different strengths and weaknesses then DOS2.
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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Sep 2017 17:27    Post subject:
peter980 wrote:
Sure, why not? It has different strengths and weaknesses then DOS2.


How is it different/same from DOS?


Some people say this is just a bad Pillars of Eternity, and POE is just a Diablo clone if you ask me and I don't like it at all.
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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Sep 2017 17:32    Post subject:
Stige wrote:
peter980 wrote:
Sure, why not? It has different strengths and weaknesses then DOS2.


How is it different/same from DOS?


Some people say this is just a bad Pillars of Eternity, and POE is just a Diablo clone if you ask me and I don't like it at all.

lol wtf


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Stige




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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Sep 2017 17:39    Post subject:
The combat is realtime, not turn based?
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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Sep 2017 18:08    Post subject:
Yes its real time, but you can pause anytime.


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Stige




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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Sep 2017 19:35    Post subject:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
Yes its real time, but you can pause anytime.


I can recall the pausefast that Dragon Age Origins was I think. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Sep 2017 20:09    Post subject:
Stige wrote:
Some people say this is just a bad Pillars of Eternity, and POE is just a Diablo clone if you ask me and I don't like it at all.


It's much more similar to POE, being realtime and having similar stats.

Difference compared to POE/DOS2:

All spells are craft-able. There is no such thing as "stock" spells.
Some combat mechanics are streamlined (in good way), compared to POE.
Lots (and I means a lots) of choices and consequences.
Better loot then POE. Less throwaway loot then DOS2 (where you pretty much need to get new stuff every level to stay competent).
4 totally different campaign paths based on some choices.
Game is generally shorter, but very replayable, due to those paths.
In depth companions (more then POE, not sure about DOS2, not played enough).
Game is challenging early, but gets easy later, after you master your builds and custom spells.
Maps are "smallish", but there are many.
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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Sep 2017 20:22    Post subject:
Looking at the recent RPG games taking inspiration from older games, I personally found Tyranny to be one of the better ones. I liked it better than Pillars of Eternity, Wasteland 2, Tides of Numenera and the first Original Sin. But only while knowing before-hand that the game rushes its ending, the last act of the game ties up everything quite quickly.

The gameplay wasn't a huge strength of the game, but it felt better than PoE. Mainly what I enjoyed was the story, the characters (sadly we can't explore them as much as I would have liked), the story and how much it follows what we do.

I'm not far enough in DOS2 to compare it to Tyranny, but so far I think DOS2 might be better. It feels more complete.
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2017 00:02    Post subject:
i did my best to get into the game since it looks really nice and is SO PACKED with lore and easy-access background info but the combat...bleh. after playing Divinity 2,this isn´t playable for me Sad


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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2017 00:25    Post subject:
Yeah, the combat in Tyranny definitely isn't the most satisfying aspect that the game has to offer, it sits in a limbo that ranges from mildly interesting to mildly tiresome depending on personal tastes. Razz

I actually found myself not disliking the combat system, competently serviceable would be a good term to describe it considering the in-game world's structure. As Kanint mentioned, the true highlight here is absolutely the story, writing in general and the meaningful impact that the player can have with his decision making (it's a title especially designed to encourage the dark side approach, and it does feel quite rewarding).

It's an imperfect gem, not for everyone, but when everything clicks it can be great. It's a shame that the so-so amount of depth and all the constraints don't allow it to be modern classic, its narrative and overall design would deserve it.
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2017 11:55    Post subject:
Is this really that much better than the Dragonspear controversy? That game had an awkward tranny situation, this one flaunts females as the stronger sex. Why can't they just shut the fuck up and keep the topic of genders out of their games? I wouldnt be half surprised now if Kyros was female as well. Who isn't in this game?


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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2017 12:01    Post subject:
How they can keep gender out of a game when characters have assigned genders? What you actually mean is: why they can't leave genders as they were before and I like it.
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2017 12:06    Post subject:
Dunno what you mean by "i like it" but i concur with the rest.
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2017 12:14    Post subject:
Ok, that was a lazy choice of words. Let me rephrase: I feel comfortable with. Happy? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2017 12:31    Post subject:
Well, sure. When they leave out political nonsense from the years 2017 +/- then i'd feel much more comfortable playing.
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2017 12:40    Post subject:
You let your political vision affect your view on gaming. Everything can and will most likely be judged as a political act by some. The way you are annoyed by many female characters or the existence of LGBT characters, there are people on the other side of the barricade that are annoyed by the things you accept (avoiding like Very Happy). Video games are created by people and there will always be some sort of agenda behind them. It's the quality of the product that matters the most and this is where Dragonspear failed. The game had a LGBT character that was extremely poorly written, the agenda preceded the artistic act and hence, the end product (speaking about the character, not the game) failed.
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2017 12:52    Post subject:
Wrong agenda if they want me to play their games. Won't be a big loss anyway. People blew up for the tranny in baldurs gate, and this annoys me. I'm no better or worse. I know it sucks to be affected, but i won't play something that annoys me.
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2017 12:59    Post subject:
Then suit yourself, games shouldn't be made to please everyone. The kind of games that are made to please everyone are usually pretty bad anyway. I don't care about a character's genre, it's how a character acts and talks that matters to me. I liked Zevran and Dorian from Dragon Age or Liara from Mass Effect, but those are well written characters with justified reasons and compelling personalities.


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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2017 13:20    Post subject:
Dorian is actually my favourite character from da:i. Don't recall Zevran much though.
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2017 18:37    Post subject:
BettyShikle wrote:
i did my best to get into the game since it looks really nice and is SO PACKED with lore and easy-access background info but the combat...bleh. after playing Divinity 2,this isn´t playable for me Sad


Same here, I tried to really like the game due to it's nature that you can't really play a "goodguy" and either way you fuck someone over. But the combat was just so bleh that it put me off completely.


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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Nov 2017 00:36    Post subject:
My fucking god, I cannot play an RPG with this shitty combat. It is just so streamlined, everything feels so weak, I can[t really explain it but I miss the combat of games like Baldur's Gate 2, Dragon Age etc. When you activated abilities, some were devastating. In this fucking game and in PoE they do some tiny animation and *poof* something miniscule happens.

Well, sometimes nothing happens and I have to give he order again and wait for the recovery meter to end and then with a little luck *poof*, something may happen.

Wait, why am I even trying to describe this weak shit? Just fuck this, uninstalled just like PoE. I can't suffer through its admittedly interesting story.
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