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I don't have an account over there, can you post it here too?
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Oct 2017 09:32 Post subject: |
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| PumpAction wrote: | | I don't have an account over there, can you post it here too? |
Sure
| Quote: | The state of NeoGAF
Hi.
An allegation of sexual misconduct has been made against me by an ex. It's not true, the individual making the accusation isn't credible, the story doesn't reconcile logically with the facts, and there's plenty of evidence and witnesses to corroborate that. It'll be a process.
All allegations of this nature are serious, of course. I first got word of it on Wednesday when a screenshot of a Facebook post was handed to Voat. I immediately talked with my mod team about the contents of the screenshot and clarified that it was baseless and explained some of the details concerning my former associations with her, and tried to ensure any concerns from the team were addressed fully and transparently to everyone's satisfaction. On Thursday I heard that she had deleted the accusation from Facebook, and wasn't entirely sure how to proceed from there or how this would all play out in the public space at that point. Then, Friday morning, the screenshot made its way to NeoGAF and chaos ensued.
I was in the process of writing a statement that entire day to address formally address the allegation, but the community had erupted in a flash that morning. While the moderation team was trying to restore the peace, accusations and threats concerning the screenshot started shifting to them as well by association with me, and I was asked by my team to do something to fix things and get the heat off of all of them at least. I was beyond exhausted by that point, though, stretched too thin in the time since the post had first appeared and seeing unprecedented events unfold on NeoGAF. I was slow and weak. I failed to handle it quickly enough and let the team down. Before I could finish a statement and get it out there, understandably some mods hit their emotional limit, expressed concerns about the community coming after them, and decided to leave. A few people resigned, and many more quickly followed for similar reasons, citing stress and harassment. The site started breaking under load spikes leading up to the first resignations, too, and then flatlined altogether, so issuing a statement at that time on NeoGAF itself became impossible for the time being, and my attention shifted toward the moderation team's future.
Since that whole mess, lasting from Friday morning through Saturday, before we formally went offline for maintenance and repair and restructure, we've just been trying to figure out the best course of action for NeoGAF going forward. And as stories began being published by various outlets, I issued some comments to the press, since everything coming out was proving to be sensationalized, opportunist, and unprofessional.
We've all become increasingly stressed and weary this year in ways even I'm not accustomed to by now, and discussions on heated news, political issues, and social issues on the off-topic side of the site have become areas no one has wanted to moderate in the open for fear of backlash or just general exposure to the inevitable toxicity. I've gone in there myself to take the heat, since it's very much my responsibility to do so before anyone else's, but there's been little headway, mostly just more anger and resentment and a lot of bans. I don't think this necessarily reflects on our community; more so the tone of the entire internet this year with regards to heated issues.
That's all going to inform the way forward for NeoGAF as we refocus on what the main goals are supposed to be for the site. The mod team will talk about more specifics on what that will entail below.
One last thing. The NeoGAF mod team is here for this community; all of you. You have no obligations to respect me or believe anything I say about my personal life one way or another, but if you're going to be here and participate on NeoGAF, respect the mod team by following the rules and behaving. The team is diminished at the moment and the folks who stuck around care very much about this community and its future. Be considerate of them. That's non-negotiable.
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Oct 2017 10:45 Post subject: |
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Will this remove the neoFAG's from neoGAF though?
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Oct 2017 10:51 Post subject: |
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| tonizito wrote: | | Will this remove the neoFAG's from neoGAF though? |
Most likely yeah as far as i can see over there.
The old Mods are building a new place called ResetERA atm for them.
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Oct 2017 11:41 Post subject: |
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1453624
the purge has begun, it seems the sjw elements will be out soon.
we will then see what kind of forum it will end up being, prolly an alt-right echo chamber, so same shit in the end.
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Oct 2017 12:00 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Oct 2017 12:57 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Oct 2017 13:49 Post subject: |
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Well if anyone returns to neofag now it means that they condone sexual harassment, right? That's how the interwebs work, no?
But seriously, this whole story is really weird. Only reason why I think that he is guilty is because it doesn't seem to be the first time, but this particular story by itself? Something is not quite right with it...
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Oct 2017 13:51 Post subject: |
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| paxsali wrote: | | Just because you disagree with the alt-right makes you think you can say they're not an improvement? That's biggotry. |
They are both cancer, but at the very least the SJW are somewhat well-intentioned, even if repugnant in approach and terribly naive. There is nothing redeeming in the Alt-Right other than breaking them down to their constituent carbon atoms for reuse elsewhere.
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Oct 2017 17:15 Post subject: |
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| tet666 wrote: | | paxsali wrote: | | Just because you disagree with the alt-right makes you think you can say they're not an improvement? That's biggotry. |
They are both cancer, but at the very least the SJW are somewhat well-intentioned, even if repugnant in approach and terribly naive. There is nothing redeeming in the Alt-Right other than breaking them down to their constituent carbon atoms for reuse elsewhere. |
sjws and alt-right are socialists, socialism is a horrible idea from the beginning, as you can see
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Oct 2017 19:23 Post subject: |
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But then what would happen to the special snowflake and the couple of anarchist badasses over at world news? 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Oct 2017 20:09 Post subject: |
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And this place is as good as any other to rant for a while 
So, months ago, I read about all those feminism/inclusive bullshit, and while in transit, I thought of the french language.
In french, nouns are either feminine or masculine. There is no logic/sexism/whatever to it, it's seemingly random, like:
-War, a topic/historic behaviour associated with men. In french, "a war" is "une guerre", feminine.
-Vagina. In french, "a vagina" is called "un vagin", masculine.
So, just with those two examples (and the entire language is one), people should realize that this "genre" business is just a coin-flip, basicaly.
BUT NOW, the titty twister is that, whether feminine or masculine, the same verbs or nouns must be conjugated accordingly.
THUS, ye olde frenchoïd people way back decided that, for as long as there is a masculine nouns/subject present in a whole, then the masculine would take over in terms of orthographicals/grammaticals matters.
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EX:
(These girls) They talk.
Elles parlent.
(These guys) They talk.
Ils parlent.
(This one guy and those 20 girls are talking) They talk.
Ils parlent.
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So, since two days ago, a collective of wankers and cunts want to FIGHT THE SEXISM
Masculine? TAKING OVER? FUCK THAT! "Inclusive language" must preveil!
They already went forward to propose a way to overhaul the whole french language (good fucking luck  ) on the basis that:
"IT MAKES KIDS PRECONCIEVE THE NOTION THAT THE MALE TAKES OVER".
When is too far far enough?
"Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life." ~Berthold Auerbach
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Oct 2017 20:55 Post subject: |
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| Nui wrote: | | HubU wrote: | | "IT MAKES KIDS PRECONCIEVE THE NOTION THAT THE MALE TAKES OVER". |
This is what I usually find so weird. I wonder if they really think so or if they just convinced themselves so they can start a valid fight for justice.
I curse with 'religious' terms just like most people. Only a few years ago I realized that and I kind of want to stop that, just to help religion die even for trivial matters like this . But the point is, it didn't make me religious or think anything of it for the most part of my life. I learned only what was necessary to convey meaning and not much more. |
Religion had a good go, now it's on the exit. It might take 200+ years, I don't know, but it's on the way out nonetheless.
In this case, the idea of gender equality itself isn't "defined". What is equality? Are genders really equal?
There are a lot of philosophical/medical/behavioural/etc... points to take into consideration.
It's a human movement, so it's like a good ol' fever: it's gonna have it's worse elements manifest themselves rather quick, and like any disease, they are gonna be rooted out by the sane majority. Then the rest of the strain will come to an arrangement with the rest of the immune system.
Aguing with these people is useless. Like 40+ alcoholics, they'll end up choking on their own puke by themselves.
"Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life." ~Berthold Auerbach
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Oct 2017 22:05 Post subject: |
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So... If all of sudden it was discovered that Gabe Newell is a rapist and child molester, would people start leaving steam?
3080 | ps5 pro
Sin317-"im 31 years old and still surprised at how much shit comes out of my ass actually ..."
SteamDRM-"Call of Duty is the symbol of the true perfection in every aspect. Call of Duty games are like Mozart's/Beethoven's symphonies"
deadpoetic-"are you new to the cyberspace?"
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| Posted: Wed, 25th Oct 2017 00:03 Post subject: |
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Gabe could murder an infant in front of his mother, live on stream, and people would keep throwing their money at STEAM.
"I think Call of Duty resonates because it's believable and relatable," Sledgehammer Games cofounder Michael Condrey says.
Believable and relatable...Yep, sounds like Call of Duty
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| Posted: Thu, 26th Oct 2017 18:58 Post subject: |
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Seems like mods who left created their own forum where neogaf members "escaped"
https://www.resetera.com/forums/video-games.7/
lol that "on the cheek" name
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Sin317-"im 31 years old and still surprised at how much shit comes out of my ass actually ..."
SteamDRM-"Call of Duty is the symbol of the true perfection in every aspect. Call of Duty games are like Mozart's/Beethoven's symphonies"
deadpoetic-"are you new to the cyberspace?"
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| Posted: Thu, 26th Oct 2017 21:11 Post subject: |
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Is one of the two forums void of right-wing feminists?
Did all feminists move to resetera? Or was resetera founded to leave of the feminists behind?
Or is the split random?
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| Posted: Thu, 26th Oct 2017 21:47 Post subject: |
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The ResetEra group might be worse.
https://twitter.com/hashtag/resetera?src=hash
Though some of these are likely cherry picked but still.
It's a bit of a mess though so I have no idea really what's going on but NeoGaf seems to semi-dead now though still has a few loyal users remaining and the total user base is still pretty high but I don't know if they're all that active.
This entire thing just blew up, wonder what will happen next.
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| Posted: Thu, 26th Oct 2017 21:54 Post subject: |
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NeoGaf is basically a new /v/ now, the good thing is that the SJW factor is gone, but the heavy drop in thread quality is evident, there is alot of non-gaming-related bullshit going on and its just meh all around.
ResetEra meanwhile is picking up some slack and trying to continue where old gaf left off, which of course accompanies the SJW factor, but atleast the content is of alot higher quality and it's basically the forum everyone who visited gaf regulary will inevitably go to in the future.
As a comparison, the Wolfenstein OT from both forums:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1454830
https://www.resetera.com/threads/wolfenstein-ii-the-new-colossus-ot-amerika-ist-wieder-gro%C3%9Fartig.588/
Its very evident that ResetEra is the new gaf.
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| Posted: Thu, 26th Oct 2017 22:10 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 26th Oct 2017 22:12 Post subject: |
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Yeah, resetera appears to be the new gaf, for better or worse.
Shame there wasn't a hard split between the people who care about gaming/game development and the SJW crowd.
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