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Title update 1 was imperative (gameplay wise).
Title update 2 doesn't change anything in gameplay.
You can't say that day1 version, with those horrendous goalkeepers was perfect. Even now It's not very good but miles away from last week.
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JackQ
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| Posted: Sun, 8th Oct 2017 05:03 Post subject: |
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| jaapie18 wrote: |
Can't they just release the patch instead of the whole game again? |
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Based on : Steampunks {FIFA.18.TITLE.UPDATE.2.MULTI12.READNFO-STEAMPUNKS} release
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demde
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| Posted: Sun, 8th Oct 2017 07:26 Post subject: |
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Wtf have they done. Slow speed now is as TWICE as fast....Why can't they just do 4-5 speed options...
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harry_theone
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| Posted: Sun, 8th Oct 2017 12:06 Post subject: |
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| demde wrote: | | Wtf have they done. Slow speed now is as TWICE as fast....Why can't they just do 4-5 speed options... |
Classic EA, they always revert the best gameplay to an older state.
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| Posted: Sun, 8th Oct 2017 12:20 Post subject: |
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I re-played Fifa98 yesterday. Pretty good game men.
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| Posted: Mon, 9th Oct 2017 11:58 Post subject: |
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| m3th0d2008 wrote: | | I re-played Fifa98 yesterday. Pretty good game men. |
I still have my old FIFA'99. Loved that one.
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SirCez
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| Posted: Mon, 9th Oct 2017 22:47 Post subject: |
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How is this compared to PES 18? I tried PES 18 on PC and they have really improved the gameplay. It kinda reminded me the International Super Star Soccer days! I don't have high hopes for Fifa since they introduced that new defending mechanism in Fifa 13 i think, which i hated it because it's so easy to make a miss tackle and hard to get the ball. Too much realism does not equal to fun in video games, but I guess sales figures don't agree with me.
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harry_theone
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| Posted: Mon, 9th Oct 2017 23:24 Post subject: |
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There's a toggle for the arcade defending since the new defending was introduced.
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Oct 2017 05:33 Post subject: |
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differs from day to day, two days ago the gameplay was hyperspeed and ronaldina hurrdurr run through,yesterday it was slow again and needed patience (online seasons, i dont play fut). without any update (not even roster), its server sided and you are eas playball. tbh that sucks
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JackQ
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Oct 2017 07:02 Post subject: |
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Any chance they reduced the number of national football teams with later FIFA's games?
I am pretty sure, for example my country's national football was in FIFA 2000, The latest version-FIFA 18 for exmaple having only around 3rd of the entire world national football teams..
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Oct 2017 08:21 Post subject: |
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| JackQ wrote: | | Any chance they reduced the number of national football teams with later FIFA's games? |
its just licencing ... so it depends on which national association signs with them |
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Oct 2017 13:31 Post subject: |
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| prudislav wrote: | | JackQ wrote: | | Any chance they reduced the number of national football teams with later FIFA's games? |
its just licencing ... so it depends on which national association signs with them |
Indeed, it's variable and (ideally) could be fixed with modding, though since the Frosty engine was introduced the community has been struggling a lot with even the simplest edits (which is basically what EA wanted in the first place), it's a shame.
Speaking of which, even with all the shady antics of late, the offline is still decent, especially with the usual gameplay patch |
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SirCez
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Oct 2017 13:48 Post subject: |
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| harry_theone wrote: | | There's a toggle for the arcade defending since the new defending was introduced. |
I know, but it feels like I am not playing the game as it it meant to be played. Also, i think you couldn't use the old style defending in multiplayer, or something like that.
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Oct 2017 14:01 Post subject: |
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You "think" that's not how it's meant to be played, but 90% of the players play with the new defending since it was introduced. Of course you can't use it in games against other people because that would make it far too easy.
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SirCez
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Oct 2017 14:39 Post subject: |
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| harry_theone wrote: | | You "think" that's not how it's meant to be played, but 90% of the players play with the new defending since it was introduced. Of course you can't use it in games against other people because that would make it far too easy. |
Yeah 90% of the players don't have a choice hence they can't do nothing about it, unless they want to play against the AI constantly. There are even youtube videos explaining the defending because it's damn frustrating. And why would you need to watch a youtube video to defend in a football game? As I said, realism does not mean fun in video games, and no, the old style defending wasn't easy, you just didn't get penalised for not correctly timing your button press.
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harry_theone
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Oct 2017 14:46 Post subject: |
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Of course Legacy defending is easy! You hold two buttons until the players get you the ball back, piss easy.
Don't act like you are speaking for the majority because I browse daily through everything FIFA related and know the community for a long time now. You're part of the problem why they made this latest patch and returned to FIFA 17 levels of stupidity, rewarding terrible players for their inability to adjust and learn new systems.
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SirCez
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Oct 2017 15:00 Post subject: |
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| harry_theone wrote: | Of course Legacy defending is easy! You hold two buttons until the players get you the ball back, piss easy.
Don't act like you are speaking for the majority because I browse daily through everything FIFA related and know the community for a long time now. You're part of the problem why they made this latest patch and returned to FIFA 17 levels of stupidity, rewarding terrible players for their inability to adjust and learn new systems. |
All those people on the offical boards are hard core players, and yes, there are many people frustrated by the new defending gameplay, don't pretend that it's not an issue by lot of the players. I am part of the problem because I think video games should be fun? And it's not piss easy mate, it's even more challenging for the attacking team, because you get more pressure from the defending team. This is why EA included the legacy mode, and this is why PES never tried copying it. It's a shitty way to defend in a video game.
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harry_theone
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Oct 2017 15:05 Post subject: |
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Which "new" defending? Tactical Defending has been there since FIFA 13, hardly new. And who are these "many people"? Unlike you I said where I got my consensus from.
Your way of fun =/ general way of fun
Of course it is easy, you do literally nothing other than pressing the buttons a few times in order to let the CPU fetch the ball for you, super easy, super arcade and the same way PES does it. Literally for the below-the-average player who can't spend a minimum amount of time.
EA included it because offline players need it and can't deal with the new system (like you), not because it's a superior form of "defence". I get that you're very upset about this but that's how it is and it's not going to change because you feel it's "better".
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SirCez
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Oct 2017 15:12 Post subject: |
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| harry_theone wrote: | Your way of fun =/ general way of fun
Of course it is easy, you do literally nothing other than pressing the buttons a few times in order to let the CPU fetch the ball for you, super easy, super arcade and the same way PES does it. Literally for the below-the-average player who can't spend a minimum amount of time.
EA included it because offline players need it and can't deal with the new system (like you), not because it's a superior form of "defence". I get that you're very upset about this but that's how it is and it's not going to change because you feel it's "better".
Which "new" defending? It's been there since FIFA 13. |
No, EA included the legacy deefnding because they knew they would get lot of complaints, and EA added the new defending because they couldn't find anything else to change in the gameplay. It;'s literary the same old game year after year.
I guess you were one of those people couldn't play attacking football because the defending team kept crushing your players. Also, it's not as simple as holding two buttons down, this shows how much you knew (or didn't know) how to play with the legacy defending.
Edit: Exactly, the tactical defending was introduced in FIfa 13 and lot of people complained. Most of my friends stopped playing, few kept playing because they couldn't play PES with fake names etc.
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Oct 2017 15:26 Post subject: |
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So...the question: how are the controls with the keyboard/mouse combo? Or do i really need to get a gamepad to play it properly?
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harry_theone
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Oct 2017 15:27 Post subject: |
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@blackdochia A gamepad is very recommended, keyboard and mouse works, as far as I know, quite okay though. Your mouse cursor is pretty much where the selected player goes.
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SirCez
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Oct 2017 16:26 Post subject: |
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| harry_theone wrote: | lmao
I play Legacy Defending against the AI on Legendary and I win by 3 goals easily, I KNOW exactly how to do it, spare me with your wisdom then. My combined hours of FIFA would crush your little world of smartassing pretty soon. Are you for real? You're talking to me about the relevance of Legacy Defending that was introduced in FIFA 13, in a FIFA 18 thread?  STOP PLAYING then and stop being a whiney bitch to me because you can't deal with it.
Yeah I can't play attacking football, surely constantly getting Gold 2 in the Weekend League, Elite 2 in the Squad Battles is merely because the opponents are so weak?! Gtfo lol, Legacy Defending is the two (awesome) button defending, you "alone" saying it isn't is being completely ignorant now.
Good god, some people are just very fact resistant  |
FFS, you're chatting crap, why the hell does FIfa still have legacy defending if people didn't ask for it? Exactly my point, because there are people who does not find the tactical defending FUN. It's got nothing to do with people finding it hard or easy, people play games to have fun. It's a fact, lot of people didn't like tactical defending and you.just.can't.accept.it lol.
Also, because you spend all your time playing a video game does not make you badass or smarter than anyone else. I have the capacity to see if something works for me or not, so you can carry on playing Fifa until the day you die, it still won't change my mind about tactical defending, I still think it's a shitty gameplay mechanic.
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harry_theone
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Oct 2017 17:23 Post subject: |
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@blackdochia Haha yeah it's quite better for it, as for fighting games, other than Tekken I don't have any, still rocking the Xbox One controller ever since.
| SirCez wrote: | | harry_theone wrote: | lmao
I play Legacy Defending against the AI on Legendary and I win by 3 goals easily, I KNOW exactly how to do it, spare me with your wisdom then. My combined hours of FIFA would crush your little world of smartassing pretty soon. Are you for real? You're talking to me about the relevance of Legacy Defending that was introduced in FIFA 13, in a FIFA 18 thread? STOP PLAYING then and stop being a whiney bitch to me because you can't deal with it.
Yeah I can't play attacking football, surely constantly getting Gold 2 in the Weekend League, Elite 2 in the Squad Battles is merely because the opponents are so weak?! Gtfo lol, Legacy Defending is the two (awesome) button defending, you "alone" saying it isn't is being completely ignorant now.
Good god, some people are just very fact resistant |
FFS, you're chatting crap, why the hell does FIfa still have legacy defending if people didn't ask for it? Exactly my point, because there are people who does not find the tactical defending FUN. It's got nothing to do with people finding it hard or easy, people play games to have fun. It's a fact, lot of people didn't like tactical defending and you.just.can't.accept.it lol.
Also, because you spend all your time playing a video game does not make you badass or smarter than anyone else. I have the capacity to see if something works for me or not, so you can carry on playing Fifa until the day you die, it still won't change my mind about tactical defending, I still think it's a shitty gameplay mechanic. |
Holy crap are you fucking dense, you didn't read a fucking word I said, no wonder you keep coming back with things "you meant differently". You attack me saying I know nothing, despite knowing very well far more about this game series than you and then you come back with "it still has the old defending because people don't like the new one (which years old by now)" going on about fucking semantics out of the blue. And that you keep speaking about how "hard" the awesome button defending that is Legacy Defending is. But it isn't, if you want to play arcade, go play fucking PES or stay offline in FIFA.
Just gtfo lmao, got no time for such bullshit 
And playing this game a lot surely makes me a far better informed player than you, who perhaps plays a few games each week, I feel very sorry that I am not the usual type of person you can fuck up and pretend that you know more despite knowing nothing.
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SirCez
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Oct 2017 17:28 Post subject: |
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| harry_theone wrote: | @blackdochia Haha yeah it's quite better for it, as for fighting games, other than Tekken I don't have any, still rocking the Xbox One controller ever since.
| SirCez wrote: | | harry_theone wrote: | lmao
I play Legacy Defending against the AI on Legendary and I win by 3 goals easily, I KNOW exactly how to do it, spare me with your wisdom then. My combined hours of FIFA would crush your little world of smartassing pretty soon. Are you for real? You're talking to me about the relevance of Legacy Defending that was introduced in FIFA 13, in a FIFA 18 thread? STOP PLAYING then and stop being a whiney bitch to me because you can't deal with it.
Yeah I can't play attacking football, surely constantly getting Gold 2 in the Weekend League, Elite 2 in the Squad Battles is merely because the opponents are so weak?! Gtfo lol, Legacy Defending is the two (awesome) button defending, you "alone" saying it isn't is being completely ignorant now.
Good god, some people are just very fact resistant |
FFS, you're chatting crap, why the hell does FIfa still have legacy defending if people didn't ask for it? Exactly my point, because there are people who does not find the tactical defending FUN. It's got nothing to do with people finding it hard or easy, people play games to have fun. It's a fact, lot of people didn't like tactical defending and you.just.can't.accept.it lol.
Also, because you spend all your time playing a video game does not make you badass or smarter than anyone else. I have the capacity to see if something works for me or not, so you can carry on playing Fifa until the day you die, it still won't change my mind about tactical defending, I still think it's a shitty gameplay mechanic. |
Holy crap are you fucking dense, you didn't read a fucking word I said, no wonder you keep coming back with things "you meant differently".
Just gtfo lmao, got no time for such bullshit |
mehh...
Edit: Stop editing your post and adding more bullshit to it, also i don't give a damn who you are or what you say. Stop acting like you're going to do something. This is the internet, you can't do jack shit so stop bullshitting if you don't have any constructive thing to say. No one gives a shit how much you played fifa or any other game, gtfo and get a life haha what a douchebag, blocked!
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Oct 2017 17:42 Post subject: |
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Just to chime in on the defending: I think they did a very bad job on introducing the new'ish system. A youtube video explains it better and that's not what you want in videogames... that being said I still feel like most attention goes to the offensive side of football and I don't enjoy defending much... its better I guess it just doesn't tickle my ballsack.
Then again I don't take the game overly serious or online, so maybe its better for you guys that do.
That adaptive difficulty seemed to be on the spot. Can't remember that from 17.
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SirCez
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Oct 2017 18:40 Post subject: |
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| Morphineus wrote: | Just to chime in on the defending: I think they did a very bad job on introducing the new'ish system. A youtube video explains it better and that's not what you want in videogames... that being said I still feel like most attention goes to the offensive side of football and I don't enjoy defending much... its better I guess it just doesn't tickle my ballsack.
Then again I don't take the game overly serious or online, so maybe its better for you guys that do.
That adaptive difficulty seemed to be on the spot. Can't remember that from 17. |
Thank you very much. Some people are just too thick in the head to understand the difference between a video game being fun or easy/difficult.
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