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ixigia
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There's indeed work to do when it comes to optimization, but damn, the creator really nailed the essence of an old-yet-modern Tomb Raider 
The production values and overall visuals/lighting of the remade level are surprisingly pleasant, the (imported) animations and control system are fluid, didn't encounter any wonky collisions/bugs, everything just clicked. No Batman visions, no silly huds, there's the classic "manual" platforming as well where you have to press Ctrl to hold onto ledges.  With all the automatic titles of late, dying two times in a row to perform a relatively simple jump was a nice throwback, a sensation that was lost in time and space.
I don't know if the project will ever be finished, but this fellow has done and is doing a remarkable job, he really would deserve to complete his dream (ours too!), since Square Enix doesn't seem to be capable of releasing something that doesn't stink of cinematic tripe.
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| Posted: Fri, 1st Sep 2017 01:25 Post subject: |
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This is marvelous to see, shame gamers don't like this kind of gameplay though. Survival, exploration and skill based movement gone forever.. now we only third person shooters.
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Fri, 1st Sep 2017 02:20 Post subject: |
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I think a big bunch of gamers just don't know any better. I don't expect the majority of them to endure those old graphics from the originals but a graphical update, sure.
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| Posted: Fri, 1st Sep 2017 03:38 Post subject: |
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Wow great job on this!! Love it! How long til' full release?
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| Posted: Fri, 1st Sep 2017 05:07 Post subject: |
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| zellar wrote: | | Wow great job on this!! Love it! How long til' full release? |
Never.
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| Posted: Fri, 1st Sep 2017 10:36 Post subject: |
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Holy shit guys, this looks and plays absolutely bloody fantastic! The whole thing looks amazing, they really took advantage of the Unreal Engine 4 here.
And yeah it also really stresses the GPU, maybe you could counter it if you enable V-Sync, or you could also limit your fps to a desired number.
Since this is an UE4 game, all the config file tweaks work here too.
If you want to limit your fps:
1. Start the game once after you installed it, and quit.
2. Go to [UserName]\AppData\Local\TombRaiderDOX\Saved\Config\WindowsNoEditor\
3. Open "GameUserSettings.ini" with your preferred text editor.
4. It should be empty, add these two lines:
[/Script/Engine.GameUserSettings]
FrameRateLimit=60.000000
5. Save, close the file, and make sure you set it to read-only, as the game rewrites it. Done.
I set mine to 60 since I have a 60Hz monitor so that would make perfect sense, but you can enter any desired number there.
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Sep 2017 12:30 Post subject: |
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Even with vsync @60fps @1080p, on high/ultra i get 75 and 80 degrees. its insane...
Was playing siege the other day maxed out at 1080p and i dont go above 68 degrees.. so its not the gpu.. i hope
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| Posted: Sun, 3rd Sep 2017 15:37 Post subject: |
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I remember playing the shit out of Tomb Raider 2 demo on pc gamer disc when it was released. Holy crap I am old. That game is like 20 years now
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Sep 2017 13:43 Post subject: |
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Wow...completely off my radar. And this looks more TR than any of the last two (but again, this is a TR2 remake). I miss the old TR gameplay...
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| Posted: Sun, 11th Mar 2018 08:20 Post subject: |
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Meanwhile
| Quote: | Realtech VR has announced that it will release remastered versions of Tomb Raider 1, 2 and 3 on Steam. These remasters will be based on the mobile versions, will support OpenVR, will feature a new 3D engine, and will be free to all owners of these games. Got all that? Realtech has made remasters that require the DOS version of each game on steam.
Realtech is known for making demos and mobile ports, so this seems both in their wheelhouse but also very new territory for that team. |
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2018/03/10/tomb-raider-games-are-getting-free-remasters-on-steam/
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| Posted: Sun, 11th Mar 2018 09:22 Post subject: |
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The years of Re-Releases and Remasters.
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JackQ
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| Posted: Sun, 11th Mar 2018 09:38 Post subject: |
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Makes we wonder if Ironically Emulation on PC encourged this?
Compnies won't admit it, But I am starting to think, the fact that there is damend for HD remakes and the fact that they saw people willing to pay for hardwares to run old school games to force 4k and 60 fps made compnies jumping the ride and we are seeing more and more remakes/remasters...
The adevnute of this, that some of the the remasters inculudes either new engine or heavily modification for the current one, something that either very hard or can't be done at all via emulaton.
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| Posted: Mon, 12th Mar 2018 10:29 Post subject: |
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"Based on mobile version" lol
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| Posted: Mon, 12th Mar 2018 10:59 Post subject: |
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Still looks exactly the same to me i would be all over it if it was similar to the crash n sane trilogy (or at least tomb raider anniversary level of enhancement), but this looks just as low poly as the old games with some new textures slapped over it, i might as well fire up an emulator and play it there.
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| Posted: Mon, 12th Mar 2018 15:51 Post subject: |
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| Civ01 wrote: | | "Based on mobile version" lol |
The mobile versions are superior (except the gameplay on a touch screen).
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| Posted: Thu, 22nd Mar 2018 06:01 Post subject: |
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Tomb Raider 1, 2, 3 remasters have been cancelled
| Quote: | Earlier this month, we informed you about the remastered versions of Tomb Raider 1, 2 and 3 that were going to be released on Steam. These remasters were being developed by Realtech VR and they were basically mods that would require the original DOS games on Steam in order to work. However, it appears that these remasters have been cancelled.
Square Enix has taken down all the videos from those remasters on YouTube, and Realtech VR has announced that it will no longer be working on them.
Crystal Dynamics has offered an official statement about the cancellation of these remasters.
| Quote: | | “While we always welcome passion and excitement for the Tomb Raider franchise, the remasters in question were initiated and advertised without seeking approval. As such, they were never officially sanctioned. Ensuring fans receive high quality gaming experiences is at the heart of our mission as a company, which requires all projects to go through proper channels. We are thrilled about the future of Tomb Raider, and cannot thank fans enough for their continued support and excitement for the brand.” |
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https://www.dsogaming.com/news/tomb-raider-1-2-3-remasters-have-been-cancelled/
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| Posted: Thu, 22nd Mar 2018 10:51 Post subject: |
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Wow, what a dick move by SE. Don't tell me that they shut it down because they named it a "remaster" instead of "mod". In theory it was just a mod (didn't include game files, not monetized). Since when do you need approval for advertising a mod that doesn't illegally use any of your original assets?
They must have some plans regarding the classic games, otherwise I just see this as a bullshit excuse.
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| Posted: Thu, 22nd Mar 2018 11:18 Post subject: |
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Is it tho? They wanted to release remasters of SE's game, without even asking for approval? I am sorry to say, but SE is in the right here and had no choice but to stop it.
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| Posted: Thu, 22nd Mar 2018 11:45 Post subject: |
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In one of their twitter posts last week they mentioned that they contacted SE and waited for their approval to move forward. I guess they contacted them a little late in the process as they were already advertising it by then.
But still we're entering a little grey area here. They basically wouldn't include any files and assets owned by SE, as the "mod" would've used the Steam version of the games which are already sold and owned by SE, this was just basically an extension, a mod for those games, like any other out there on the internet. And they had no intention to monetize it for their own gain.
But would this have been shut down if it were released on let's say a fan site completely under the radar named as a "mod" instead of a "remaster"?
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| Posted: Thu, 22nd Mar 2018 13:32 Post subject: |
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if this was essentially a free mod that would encourage people to buy the games on steam then i suppose it was shut down because of poor wording choice that triggered the se lawyers
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| Posted: Thu, 22nd Mar 2018 13:41 Post subject: |
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| AKofC wrote: | | if this was essentially a free mod that would encourage people to buy the games on steam then i suppose it was shut down because of poor wording choice that triggered the se lawyers |
Yeah, shutting something down that would only promote sales of your own product is just a dumb move otherwise. The only other reason I can think of, is that they might have feared it would harm the brand or confuse people into thinking it was official and since Tomb Raider is a huge brand (new movie releasing soon), they might not have wanted anything interfering.
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| Posted: Thu, 22nd Mar 2018 18:48 Post subject: |
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What people seem to have missed is that this was not a mod, but a new engine created using the original source code of the game, since these guys have it in their possession due to working in the past with CORE employees.
It's well within the rights of the current IP holders to say no to that, even if it doesn't harm their business.
And this is why this was so exciting, because attempts to reverse engineer the games and create a modern engine are taking ages and it's unknown if they will ever be completed.. http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=197508
Thread created in 2013, 5 years later, still going...
In comparison these dudes, with the source code in their possession, wrote their own engine in just some months.
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ixigia
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Mar 2018 04:34 Post subject: |
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The remastering drama is unfortunate, but at least all the classic Tomb Raider games are perfectly playable on modern systems with some minor fiddling, so in the end our entertainment is preserved  (since Square and their cinemabay™ bastardizing treatment clearly will never go away, it's the next gen era afterall).
TR1 (GOG) works fine both with the standard vintage DOSBox and without it (thanks to the Automated Fix which adds some nice needed improvements); same for 2,3 and 4 which just need Peixoto's patch for the widescreen et voilà, good old hardcore Tomb Raidin'.
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| Posted: Sat, 24th Mar 2018 08:40 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 26th Mar 2018 01:07 Post subject: |
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Seems like someone leaked on GitHub the Tomb Raider 2 and previously thought long-lost Tomb Raider 3 source codes, around the same time Reatech started saying on twitter that they have the TR3 source code, and before they announced they are ceasing their efforts.
What likely happened is someone grabbed it from them (maybe they had some repo of theirs mistakenly left as public) so they were forced to stop what they are doing so that SE doesn't start asking them questions regarding if what has been leaked belonged to them. That's my opinion at least.
The good news is that several fans have downloaded it, so with time don't be surprised if the WIP engine re-implementations get "surprisingly" feature complete.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/82nrxq/classic_tomb_raider_23_source_code_leak/
http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=219515
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