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TheZor
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PostPosted: Tue, 25th Jul 2017 21:25    Post subject:
So HuBu, how is your plant doing ? I'm curious ! Smile Razz

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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Jul 2017 02:28    Post subject:
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So HuBu, how is your plant doing ? I'm curious ! Smile Razz


Well, not that great. Like you said, even with full southern exposition, belgian weather still is a farce.
So I borrowed the sun.
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Oh let the Midnight Special, shine a light on me!
Starting today, I'm gonna have them whitstand a 18/6, like it or not!
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And THAT gets me exited... NSFW
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@TheZor: Anyway, I give them fertilizer, good water, I get out of my way to give them the best sun possible from my appartment, but, well, when this happens on a regular basis:
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Translation:Belgium sucks as a country weather-wise, please, for your own safety, stay away.

I just can't leave them out when I go out, because sometime the wind just goes crazy, and if there is like a thunderstorm/hailstones madness (yeah, that happened mid-July Laughing), they will just get fucked.

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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Jul 2017 02:41    Post subject:
Anyway, even if they turn out male/barren/whatever, I'll keep on making them grow, trying to clone them, so I can learn as much as I can till/for next year's batch/full madness inside winter crop.

I love to take care of those bastards, even if they turn out to be gay muslims. I'll respect their right to turn to Mecca around 2 PM. (they slightly pull their leaves down in respect).

FUCK YEAH! Thinking of it, I'm growing hashashins!

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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Jul 2017 11:38    Post subject:
They look pretty healthy ! Smile You have to fertilize them sufficiently so they have enough ressources for the fearsome stretch any way.
The right one could be a male looking at its structure, but it's always a gamble trying to guess it out before the sexes actually appear Razz Good flowering to you !!

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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Aug 2017 16:42    Post subject:
Some more taken throughout late July/August

Sugar Melons


Tomatoes


Some Chillies (Pepperoni, Piri-Piri, Habaneros, Cayenne, Royal Gold)


Sugar Loaf Salad and Chinese Cabbage
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Aug 2017 18:04    Post subject:
Shocktrooper wrote:
Some more taken throughout late July/August

Sugar Melons


Tomatoes


Some Chillies (Pepperoni, Piri-Piri, Habaneros, Cayenne, Royal Gold)


Sugar Loaf Salad and Chinese Cabbage


Om nom nom. Grats for keeping it so alive!
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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Aug 2017 20:02    Post subject:
Your crop looks exceptionnaly great!
How? (I'm a curious guy, please, do humour me! )
Meaning:
-organic/synthetized fertilizers?
-What kind of soil is it? Peaty? Saline (I hope not)? Clay? Silty? Since you have such a rich yield from that earth, it's essential to me.
-How and what do you to make those crops thrive so much? What are the steps to follow, or the events/considerations one must be knowledgeable of?

I do not possess the ability to create a garden at my current place, but creating places, like I said, for city people to share roofs where they could care about their own gardens, and help keep other's healthy would be something I would like to create.

If you could share those ground-shattering facts, my earth-bound roots might pick up some of those mineral-based thoughts. (I was ranked 48 out of 49 in a poetry contest when younger, so please, do understand).

Anyway, cheers! You've done a insane and great-looking (and I guess tasting Razz ) amount of work.

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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Aug 2017 20:31    Post subject:
It's just regular central european soil, probably not much different from what is found in Belgium (there was lawn with grass before). I digged it up to get it soft and mixed with compost earth (from own compost heap) and horse poop, as I wrote before.
I used some blue fertilizer as well on cucumbers and paprika. Salad likes when there are small stones in the earth, and not too much fertilizer.
For seedlings I used pre packaged earth for rearing plants because it is softer.

I don't have any special skills or professional knowledge, it is only my second year with a garden. Maybe I'm just lucky, or specially gifted lol wut
I guess it is just a naturally good ecosystem where I live. Lots of bees and rainworms. My grandparents when they were still alive had a garden there for long time. The weather is also rather forthcoming this year.

Enough water&sunlight, keeping weeds more or less in check and watching for pests/diseases that's all I did. (fucking caterpillars started attacking my broccoli but I killed most of them with my bare hands and neem oil)

Cheers to you my hairy legged poet friend. How is your weed doing btw.?
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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Aug 2017 23:45    Post subject:
Thanks for the answers, really!
You said it was part good soil/conditions, part luck. But how much time do you devote to it?
Don't tell me you just threw some seeds around and waited Razz
Superb work, I hope your REALLY reap what you sow! Wink

Again, thanks for the answers, I'm gonna look into that, and see what could be reproduced here Smile

And my main woman is going strong as usual, thanks for asking Smile

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Growing as we speak. Maybe I should transer her into a bigger pot?
I don't know the first thing, I'm really on a daily observation/"analyse"-shit-I-see basis.
It looks like I'm on the right path, and any educated suggestion is welcome, of course.
If it looks like I fucked up in some way, of if there might be a way to just improve the whole process, again, please do pitch in!

Cheers Smile

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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Aug 2017 23:49    Post subject:
PS: she looks tiny in this picture. My girl is all fluff and haze.
I'll show her in all her glory tomorrow. :>

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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Aug 2017 00:02    Post subject:
I wrote all this last page dude. Most work is preparing the patches and rearing seedlings. Once they are planted it's mostly watering, supporting the plants and weed removal. Just letting nature take its course and prevent too much entropy buildup.

Your lady plant looks fine, needs more water though Razz So it's a girl? Congrats! Guy I know who grows this always removes the biggest leaves and those sticking out of the branches with two smaller ones next to them. Always ends up removing tons of leaves. But makes the plant get bigger and bushier apparently. I don't believe the indoor plants need bigger pots, only outdoors. And use some bloom boost fertilizer when it enters blooming phase to increase yields.
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Aug 2017 01:06    Post subject:
Shocktrooper wrote:
I wrote all this last page dude. Most work is preparing the patches and rearing seedlings. Once they are planted it's mostly watering, supporting the plants and weed removal. Just letting nature take its course and prevent too much entropy buildup.

Your lady plant looks fine, needs more water though Razz So it's a girl? Congrats! Guy I know who grows this always removes the biggest leaves and those sticking out of the branches with two smaller ones next to them. Always ends up removing tons of leaves. But makes the plant get bigger and bushier apparently. I don't believe the indoor plants need bigger pots, only outdoors. And use some bloom boost fertilizer when it enters blooming phase to increase yields.


Well, I heard about cuntting some leaves so to let other, more "load-bearing" ones grow.
It basically said to remove low-hanging branches, so as to foster the growth of the uppermost ones.
Any of these sites were promoting tools, this, that, and I just thought I was being put on a "sales wagon" (if that makes sense), and I just refered to my friend who gave me the seeds.

That guy's a true "down to earth" guy, in every sense of the word, so he didn't give me good advice. As much of a lawyer as he is, he just said: "water and sunshine, brah!"

He, of course, didn't spell it out like that Razz , but, last year, it seemed to work for him just fine.

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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Aug 2017 11:06    Post subject:
I didn't write about it earlier because it was just a hail mary but I also reared two Galia Melon plants.
They were Costa Rican seeds from a supermarket melon and I didn't expect them to bear fruit at all in moderate climate. But lo and behold one already produced two medium sized fruits and the climber one has two smaller ones (not sure they will make it though)



Also harvested the smallest sugar melon yet. It is the size of an apple! Tastes really good too



And now I have to get a ladder to harvest the beans. Some grew >4m high probably won't get em all
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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Aug 2017 11:55    Post subject:
I did my first Green Smoothie. Am i a gardener too now?



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PostPosted: Sun, 10th Sep 2017 23:24    Post subject:
A few of the chillies, probably less than a tenth. I have counted 34 plants, about a dozen different types Cool



They'll be harvested well into October. Those that aren't eaten fresh will mostly be pickled or dried and pulverized.
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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Oct 2017 11:43    Post subject:
Shocktrooper, I'm sorry to hijack what is now your thread (INCREDIBLE RESULTS, BTW Drooling ),
but I'm not quite sure about what I'm dealing with here.
Both my plants are healty and showing flowers, yet, I have these guys showing up:
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Regular female, hermie? WTF? I didn't find anything conclusive online.
Any advise is welcome Smile
Cheers!

PS: Heard about the dreaded bananas, are those male sperm sacks trying to fuck (up) my buds?

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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Oct 2017 12:05    Post subject:
Not 100% sure but yeah looks like a hermie to me Crying or Very sad those fuckers ruin everything
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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Oct 2017 12:31    Post subject:
Thanks for the quick answer, man!
What should I do? Some folks say I should pluck the male pods out regularly so as to give the female parts a non-fecunded growing capabilities, some others are talking ratio...
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I don't care about the final potential yield, I want to maximize it.

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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Oct 2017 12:35    Post subject:
And yet, I'm not experienced enough to see what's male trash, and what's female glory.
I'm at a loss Confused

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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Oct 2017 13:05    Post subject:
This is a clear hermaphrodite like Shocktrooper was telling you, I'm sorry to say but you won't be getting anything strong or close to what you would expect since those male pods are appearing way too early into the flowering - it's fine to pluck them out in order to prevent heavy pollination if you got max 2 weeks left ( those are a different type of hermaphroditism which occur near the end of the flowering time, yours has both sexes from the start ), but this won't lead to anything good in terms of quality nor yield. You could let it go further and make edibles out of it, but you'll have to put a lot of plant material compared to a regular female plant.
You could store some of the pollen contained in those male pods if you want to breed varieties though ! Razz


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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Oct 2017 13:05    Post subject:
The little closed pods are male pollen sacks. Remove them carefully, make sure they don't pop open and spread their powder. The opened ones that look like small flowers belong to the female I think. You can still make hash or oil from the hermies, since I believe those require some seeds anyway.
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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Oct 2017 13:41    Post subject:
So did I surround the culprits in red? Are those the male parts?

Thank you both for your answers, helps me a lot!!!
Like I said, it's my first time doing this, and I know that while it might just be genetics, I also might have just "traumatized" these fine gals into hermy territory Sad

I'm not giving up on my trans babies any time soon. (God, I'm sounding like Bob).

Anyway, best lessons are learned the hard way, and I'm gearing up to do better in six/eight months.

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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Oct 2017 14:25    Post subject:
If that can bring you some comfort, the early hermaphrodism usually points towards the genetics and the seed itself rather than how you took care of it Razz If this were bagseeds, you were very likely to be getting an hermaphrodite - you shouldn't have found seeds in your bag in the first place, if their genetics were solid !
And yeah, you recognized them perfectly ! This is strong hermaphrodism so it's rather obvious that these are male pods with the little "bananas" inside them, but it can be a lot trickier with the late-stage type ( much smaller bananas will barely protude from the pollen-less calyxes ).

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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Oct 2017 14:48    Post subject:
Yeah, that's what I gathered Sad
I heard about the fact that I should remove the balls with a tricholabion (I'm fancy like that Razz ) when they appear, so as to minimize the impact they might have on my other lovely one (and I fear it's mutual).
Should I emasculate these trannies, or should I just be more open-minded toward this different life choice, and just "treat" the more obvious outbursts of outright green privilege when they become clear?

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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Oct 2017 17:32    Post subject:
You can pluck them out, ironically it's much easier to achieve when the hermaphrodism has shown this early !
The impact you want to avoid is for those male pods to release their pollen ( that usually happens when the pollen-filled bananas start really coming out of them ) and fertilize the female parts ( which would be pretty much ruined by it altogether ). Best of luck !

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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Oct 2017 22:34    Post subject:
I think the second plant is just straight up female. I quarantined the other outside (GTFO! Mad )
Let's see how this evolves Smile

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