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 Posted: Sun, 15th Jan 2006 03:32 Post subject: [OTHER] 1st Gen PS3 Games Much More Impressive Than XBOX 360 |
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Tommy Tallarico who review games for G4 and who also has been involved in over 200 game projects in his 15 years in the game biz has made some interesting comments about the PS3 games that are currently in development. After seeing some of the games in action he was clearly impressed with what he saw, stating that the first generation of PS3 games is much more impressive than what we have seen on the Xbox 360 so far
["Unfortunately I am under strict NDA and cannot mention any titles. The gameplay graphics look a little better than minor... but it more of the way the worlds and environments are being created and built. For example... in Project Gotham racing if you stop on the side of the road and look at a tree... it is basically just two texture maps pasted together in a cross pattern (like games have done for the past 10 years)... but some of the stuff I'm seeing on the PS3 has every element of a tree including branches, leaves, etc... and it all gets affected by the wind as your car passes by... as well as the lighting. Not saying the 360 CAN'T do that... I'm just saying that from what I've seen.... I'm a lot more impressed with the 1st generation PS3 titles compared to the 1st gen 360 titles. "]
uhhh thats gotta hurt M$ fanboys... the tree part made my rofl 
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Jan 2006 03:41 Post subject: |
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source: IGN for the haters
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Jan 2006 04:52 Post subject: |
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the ps3 bashing was going on for long enough in the last few months, with developers bitching about it and saying how in the end the cell processor wouldnt make much difference etc.
i m not saying the ps3 will definitely kick x360s ass, i d just like some more balance.
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Jan 2006 05:04 Post subject: |
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This is quite interesting though and certainly holds more ground than other articles which are basicly just alot of babbling.
This guy have actually seen some games in motion, and made a judgement based on what he have seen and not what he THINKS the hardware is capable of.
Maybe he's full of shit. I dont think he is but you never know.
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Jan 2006 05:13 Post subject: |
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but that kinda rings true, after all calculating various effects and physics in the environment to a high degree is what the cell processor is supposed to be capable of, while he s also saying that the graphics themselves (probably meant as in a model-to-model comparison instead of the big picture) are only a little better.
i d say he s not bullshitting but who knows.
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dizturbd
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Jan 2006 06:24 Post subject: |
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He's been paid by $ony, so they can sell their $800 beast. Gotta get some hype built or no one will fork out the cash.
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Jan 2006 11:45 Post subject: |
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funny , just been reading the opposite and how a 1st gen games will look no better due to time limitations to release at launch just like the xbox360 had, and that it'll take 1 year after launch to see the 1st true next gen games for PS3 where as MS will be on its 2nd generation of released games.
also read that'll it be possibly £100 or $100 more than the xbox360 at launch
http://money.cnn.com/2006/01/11/commentary/game_over/column_gaming/index.htm
anyway this is all to be expected and until released no-one really knows what it'll be like - But 1 thing we do know is Sony is very good at HYPE to sell a product, so don't believe everything you see and read from Sony and be patient and wait till we see actual game code being played by real people
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Saner
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Jan 2006 11:47 Post subject: |
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Buy the machine with the games you want.
Hype and graphics are only so much.
I still play PS1 games, hell I still play on my Snes and I have countless emu's on ym PC and xbox.
Gameplay is what makes games.
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I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ? |
Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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azzman
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Jan 2006 11:50 Post subject: |
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| mcmanic wrote: | funny , just been reading the opposite and how a 1st gen games will look no better due to time limitations to release at launch just like the xbox360 had, and that it'll take 1 year after launch to see the 1st true next gen games for PS3 where as MS will be on its 2nd generation of released games.
also read that'll it be possibly £100 or $100 more than the xbox360 at launch
http://money.cnn.com/2006/01/11/commentary/game_over/column_gaming/index.htm
anyway this is all to be expected and until released no-one really knows what it'll be like - But 1 thing we do know is Sony is very good at HYPE to sell a product, so don't believe everything you see and read from Sony and be patient and wait till we see actual game code being played by real people |
I agree , I wouldnt believe a thing about the PS3 untill i see a video of someone really playing it. Even though it wouldnt be beyond sony to fake that too LOL
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Jan 2006 15:26 Post subject: |
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quote that in the pc games section and you ll be booed offstage and called a n00b and cockfag 
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Jan 2006 15:45 Post subject: |
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| |nSaNe wrote: | Buy the machine with the games you want.
Hype and graphics are only so much.
I still play PS1 games, hell I still play on my Snes and I have countless emu's on ym PC and xbox.
Gameplay is what makes games. |
This is true for people like us here (not everyone here, but many). But for the most part launch games are actually very important. Awesome looking launch games will easily sell more products. Sad but true. And this makes this interesting, except for fanboys of course.
mcmanic, this guy have seen these games (if he speaks the truth of course). Other articles are basicly just thoughts from developers etc. But hey, I too am not convinced just by some "article". But I do think it holds much more ground than other articles. He didn't go over the top either and said things like "the ps3 has much better graphics", he just said that the launch games do look alittle better. Which isn't really that spectacular either since the xbox360 lacked in this department with it's many ports.
I personally couldn't care less, since I'm one of those that buy a console for it's games and not for it's visual capabilities.
Hell I even prefeared to play chaos theory on my ps2, even though I have a pc that could run it as it was meant to be played. That's how much graphics means to me.
I think the "sony payed him" is abit far fetched btw. Maybe microsoft payed you "dizturbd" to say what you did?
And |nSaNe, shame on you. You say that gameplay is what counts, yet you didn't list the NES!!! 
NES owns, even these days.
Last edited by pallebrun on Sun, 15th Jan 2006 17:12; edited 2 times in total
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Jan 2006 16:34 Post subject: |
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| mcmanic wrote: | funny , just been reading the opposite and how a 1st gen games will look no better due to time limitations to release at launch just like the xbox360 had, and that it'll take 1 year after launch to see the 1st true next gen games for PS3 where as MS will be on its 2nd generation of released games.
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source?
I just read that osama went for cup of thee in the white house  |
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Jan 2006 17:11 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Jan 2006 18:40 Post subject: |
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Tommy Tallarico? Who the fuck listens to that retard anyway? That guy is such a douche bag, he gave Charlie and the Chocolate Factory a 9/10...wtf. It shows how much he knows about games...or anything. I would take a monkey's opinion over that guys.
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Jan 2006 21:26 Post subject: |
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G4 is NOTORIOUSLY anti-MS since the first days of the xbox1. So the whole article falls flat on its face, and is hardly worth a mention.
It's easy to talk BS about stuff that doesnt exist when the competition is already concrete reality and at the mercy of all these Tommy Tamborinos of the world.
Btw wind of passing objects affecting trees sounds like John Carmack talking about how Doom3 has particle effects where a rocket or monster passing through a steam cloud leaves a hole in it and spinning steam in its wake. BS until proven otherwise.
So far only games like Hitman have had leaves and foliage that has physics and move when you pass through them, and that game is OLD. It's not about what can be done its about what these talentless, sightless developers feel like doing that particular day.
007 has all the gadgets. Batman has a utility belt! 007 drives a fancy car. Batman has the Batmobile! 007 gets all the ladies. Batman has ROBIN!!!
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Jan 2006 22:48 Post subject: |
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You wish.
I say Phantom FTW!
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Jan 2006 23:53 Post subject: |
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Lets wait until we actually get some gameplay footage, rather then some cockfags opinion.
The better Xbox360 games come out in march so that'll be a better point of comparison.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
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| Posted: Mon, 16th Jan 2006 00:51 Post subject: |
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Newer consoles are generally better than older ones.. therefore the following is very likely to be true :- PS3>Xbox360
I looked up "gormless" in the dictionary, it said "without gorm" .... so i looked up "gorm" but it wasn't there ????
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| Posted: Mon, 16th Jan 2006 00:57 Post subject: |
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| jonels wrote: | | Newer consoles are generally better than older ones.. therefore the following is very likely to be true :- PS3>Xbox360 |
yea it has been like that in the previous 2 gens,
so prolly now too, although the revolutions will come as last and it wont be near x360 and ps3 prolly. |
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| Posted: Mon, 16th Jan 2006 01:09 Post subject: |
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Well the main thing is that either of these next-gen consoles will stop the need to use the PC as a *high-end* gaming rig, saving mucho wonga per annum. I don't fancy upgrading to PCI-X with SLI and the expense this will entail. With a lovely modchip (pretty please!) for the 360 & running it from my 21" monitor (until HDTVs get cheap) & 5.1 DTS I'll be in gaming paradise
Lets see from Komplett.co.uk:-
Abit NI8-SLI, nForce4 SLI Intel Edition, Socket-775,6xSATAII,DDR2,PCI-Ex16 @ £114.00
Gainward GeForce 7800GTX 256MB GDDR3, PCI-X, XP GS"ViVo,470MHz @ 2x£368.00
Intel Pentium Extreme Edition 840 3.2GHz Socket LGA775, 2MB, EM64T @ £650.00
Corsair TWIN2X 6400 DDR2, 1024MB CL5 Kit w/two matched Dimm's @ 2x£129.00
GRAND TOTAL inc VAT & SH £1764.50
Errrghhhh ?!?! Thank goodness for consolez, ahhhh .... 
You wanted a Miracle, I give you the F. B. Eye !!
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| Posted: Mon, 16th Jan 2006 01:32 Post subject: |
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i prefer console games as well, the console doesnt change, it cant be upgraded.
hence the games are always optimized to run on it and they run the best posible for everyone,
while with a pc you get left behind fairly soon even after buying a killer machine.
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| Posted: Mon, 16th Jan 2006 02:04 Post subject: |
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| D_A_Kuja wrote: | | jonels wrote: | | Newer consoles are generally better than older ones.. therefore the following is very likely to be true :- PS3>Xbox360 |
yea it has been like that in the previous 2 gens,
so prolly now too, although the revolutions will come as last and it wont be near x360 and ps3 prolly. |
Was the original Xbox better then the PS2 then?
Thats just not true at all. It depends on the developers and support the console gets which dictates how successful it is.
If by 'better' you mean technically superior, well that may be the case. But that certainly doesn't dictate success.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
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| Posted: Mon, 16th Jan 2006 02:38 Post subject: |
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this whole conversation is mainly about the hardware, not which console is gonna be more successful.
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| Posted: Mon, 16th Jan 2006 03:06 Post subject: |
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| D_A_Kuja wrote: | | this whole conversation is mainly about the hardware, not which console is gonna be more successful. |
No it's not, did you even read the first post?
The guy was saying how he believed the PS3 developers are taking greater advantage of the hardware.
Saying 'PS3>Xbox360', seems to be referring to superiority in a general sense.
Also, the gamecube was not technically superior to the xbox either.
The approximate 6 month difference in release dates for the 360 and PS3 will probably mean that technically they'll be very similar.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
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