|
|
| Page 2 of 3 |
sTo0z
[Moderator] Babysitter
Posts: 7449
Location: USA
|
 Posted: Thu, 19th Jan 2017 00:04 Post subject: |
|
 |
| Horrordee wrote: | So what is ultimately the best way to hack a WiiU?
This whole downloading directly from Nintendo sounds... dumb... won't they log your IP? |
Phew! So many points to make in such a tiny statement.
The download directly from Nintendo thing is the same as the 3DS pretty much. You're just downloading files, Nintendo has NO WAY to know what you're doing with them, or if it's not a legitimate request.
On WiiU hacking:
Currently, there is a method to install most games, affectionately labeled the "Brazilian method". Basically what happens here is, each game has a ticket that says whether or not your WiiU should boot a title. But Nintendo dun goof'd. They gave PHYSICAL DISKS ticket files.
So now, with a little magic, we can use a disc ticket to install a game the real, legit way to official USB. The WiiU has no way to know it's wrong, because it's a disc ticket, same across all discs.
What about eShop? DLC? Well, this gets a little more complicated. These are installed with a "fake" ticket, but through the magic of current hacks, signature checks are patched out, meaning you can run content installed with fake tickets.
Disk ticket games can just be run anytime, no mess. Just turn your WiiU on and boot your game. If you want to run "fake" ticket content, you have to do your "sig patches".
Ok, so how do we INSTALL or do "sig patches"??? Glad you asked.
The old method is as The_Zeel described. You can launch a certain website that can trigger an exploit and launch "Homebrew Launcher" for you. From HBL you can then run certain programs, like "wupinstaller", which installs games with their tickets (as explained above).
If you wanted to "sig patch" and/or run any homebrew, you'd have to visit the website on EVERY BOOT to re-enable.
This is where HaxChi comes in. HaxChi is basically the browser exploit that can be injected into certain VC titles. It takes over the VC title and can never be run as a game, ever again (unless you delete and re-install).
HaxChi basically sits as a title on your home menu, when you want to run HBL or do a quick and simple "sig patching", all you have to do is launch HaxChi, no browser needed. HaxChi is basically for ease and being self-contained. You no longer need to visit a website to do anything.
However, as above, if you want to run homebrew or enable "sig patches", you have to run HaxChi on every boot of your WiiU to re-enable.
Now, this is where CBHC (Cold Boot HaxChi) comes in. CBHC is a way to tell a WiiU to run a certain title on boot. In this case, we're telling it run our hacked VC title (our HaxChi) when the system boots. This will auto-enable "sig patches" when your WiiU boots up, so you don't have to run it everytime.
This very simply saves you a minute of effort, it's JUST for convenience. With "sig patches", you can run any title, any DLC, etc, don't have to worry about anything.
So, the shortened life cycle of "WiiU hacks" becomes:
* Download content from Nintendo servers
* Put content on SD Card
* Load Homebrew Launcher with method of choice
* Launch wupinstaller from HBL
* Install content (either disc ticket or fake ticket)
* Back in home menu, launch your content
* If it's a disc type ticket install, just launch
* If it's a fake ticket install, you need "sig patches"
* To enable sig patches, either custom FW or HaxChi needed
Any questions? 
 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Horrordee
Soderator
Posts: 8868
Location: England
|
| Posted: Thu, 19th Jan 2017 20:33 Post subject: |
|
|
Thanks for such a comprehensive reply dude! That's good to know for sure, and mainly makes sense.
My only question relates to the first part. I still don't get how you can download the full copy of a game from Nintendo servers without them being able to cotton on. Do they provide the games effectively encrypted, and therefore don't care/assume your machine will decrypt and unlock if you're allowed?
Space for rent. Contact me for rates!
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Thu, 19th Jan 2017 20:59 Post subject: |
|
|
one option is:
http://wiiubrew.net/wii-u-usb-helper/
btw st00z,
with the brazilian method I can play the installed games online and update them, right?
In that case I could unblock nintendo servers on my router again, the downside could be that in the future nintendo releases a new firmware update and patches the exploits, in which case I should still be able to play those installed games but not install any more.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Fri, 20th Jan 2017 00:21 Post subject: |
|
|
That's right The_Zeel.
Technically maybe they can block this trick and already installed games can be revoked...
@Horrordee : games on nintendo servers are all encrypted with a key. but you can gather the key when buying a game legitly : you can dump it from both a legit disc or legit eShop game.
They could log and see you leech it from your PC (if the user agent doesn't match eShop) or even see if your Wii U has bought it, but honestly, I don't think they care about this... Too much of a hassle for them.
They are idiots not blocking you from downloading the games from their servers though, because they assume it's safe to encrypt them...
You can do that on PS3 too, leeching games off Sony directly then decrypt them from your PC.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Fri, 20th Jan 2017 00:52 Post subject: |
|
|
Pretty sure that even if Nintendo puts out an update, they won't have time to put in on discs before march 3rd, so I'm sure that Zelda will use 5.5.1 anyway... Too late for them.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
sTo0z
[Moderator] Babysitter
Posts: 7449
Location: USA
|
| Posted: Fri, 20th Jan 2017 14:31 Post subject: |
|
|
| The_Zeel wrote: | | I just checked and I don't need to unblock the nintendo servers to play online, I just download the game and it's newest update via Wii U USB Helper, then install it with wupinstaller and then I can play online without issues, while nintendo servers are still blocked, hence no danger of sudden firmware update |
Yah, latest HaxChi does set your system version to like 9.999 or something to try and block updates, but it's only a theory as it's been untested since Nintendo never updates. 
But also, how easy would it be anyways if Nintendo was paying attention at all, they could just scan for and update systems on version 9.999 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Grale
Banned
Posts: 3321
Location: Invert
|
| Posted: Sat, 21st Jan 2017 10:06 Post subject: |
|
|
I'm running games downloaded with Utikdownloadhelper and then installing via wupinstaller to a USB stick.
Do i need to purchase a DS game from the eshop to be able to use Haxchi?
Also will Haxchi enable me to play MarioKart for example with DLC?
MSI X570 Tomahawk |Corsair Vengeance LPX 32gb 3600mhz | Ryzen 5800X3D | EKWB Watercooling | Seasonic Focus GX 850 Gold PSU | 4090 Founders | Predator X34P UW curved monitor | Window Pro 10 x64
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
sTo0z
[Moderator] Babysitter
Posts: 7449
Location: USA
|
| Posted: Sat, 21st Jan 2017 13:56 Post subject: |
|
|
| Grale wrote: | I'm running games downloaded with Utikdownloadhelper and then installing via wupinstaller to a USB stick.
Do i need to purchase a DS game from the eshop to be able to use Haxchi?
Also will Haxchi enable me to play MarioKart for example with DLC? |
Yes, if you don't own any of the specified titles, you would need to purchase one. But they are like $6, to completely and cleanly get everything you need, can't recommend enough. This is what I did.
Yes, HaxChi will allow full games and any DLC.
So you would download your files through preferred method (game files and DLC), install with wupinstaller, then every WiiU boot, you must run HaxChi first, let it send you back to menu, then you're all set to play full games + any/all DLC.
If you dislike running HaxChi everytime you boot up, that's where CBHC comes in, but it's a little more risky. Up to you! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Grale
Banned
Posts: 3321
Location: Invert
|
| Posted: Sat, 21st Jan 2017 14:23 Post subject: |
|
|
| sTo0z wrote: | | Grale wrote: | I'm running games downloaded with Utikdownloadhelper and then installing via wupinstaller to a USB stick.
Do i need to purchase a DS game from the eshop to be able to use Haxchi?
Also will Haxchi enable me to play MarioKart for example with DLC? |
Yes, if you don't own any of the specified titles, you would need to purchase one. But they are like $6, to completely and cleanly get everything you need, can't recommend enough. This is what I did.
Yes, HaxChi will allow full games and any DLC.
So you would download your files through preferred method (game files and DLC), install with wupinstaller, then every WiiU boot, you must run HaxChi first, let it send you back to menu, then you're all set to play full games + any/all DLC.
If you dislike running HaxChi everytime you boot up, that's where CBHC comes in, but it's a little more risky. Up to you! |
Ok great news.
I purchased Brain Training for £6
Installed Haxchi. Sooo much easier with Haxchi! Took a while to get DLC working as i didn't realise you had to hold B down to enable sig patching.
So all DLC for games, updates ect working perfectly 
I like risky so i installed CBHC and set it to autoboot to System menu.... Home button to interrupt to install homebrew ect..
Fecking awesome! Now i just have to make sure my son does not delete Haxchi and block updates. 
I have TubeHax setup but do you think it is safer to disable WiiU internet connection completely?
MSI X570 Tomahawk |Corsair Vengeance LPX 32gb 3600mhz | Ryzen 5800X3D | EKWB Watercooling | Seasonic Focus GX 850 Gold PSU | 4090 Founders | Predator X34P UW curved monitor | Window Pro 10 x64
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
sTo0z
[Moderator] Babysitter
Posts: 7449
Location: USA
|
| Posted: Sat, 21st Jan 2017 14:56 Post subject: |
|
|
Awesome, well done.
Also make sure you never delete the VC title, never re-install it, and never format your system without removing CBHC first, you will brick and not be able to recover.
Also you should disable the suspend menu if you haven't already, I haven't heard of anything bad happening but if your young son is playing it could lead to something bad.
I always go the safest route and disconnect my system completely, TubeHax just doesn't seem reliable to me. But it's up to you! Hopefully between being at version 99.99 and TubeHax you should be safe but, since it's all largely untested, you never know. 
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Grale
Banned
Posts: 3321
Location: Invert
|
| Posted: Sat, 21st Jan 2017 15:25 Post subject: |
|
|
That's my only concern with CBHC, bricking. But my son is very good and usually listens to important instructions.
Yeah i disabled suspend and the other option in power menu.
I'm going to do as you suggest and completely remove WiFi settings just in case. There really is no need to let the console connect to the internet now.
Oh don't know if you are already using it but i find 'WiiU_USB_Helper' excellent for downloading and installing games. It has every title, update and DLC available.
MSI X570 Tomahawk |Corsair Vengeance LPX 32gb 3600mhz | Ryzen 5800X3D | EKWB Watercooling | Seasonic Focus GX 850 Gold PSU | 4090 Founders | Predator X34P UW curved monitor | Window Pro 10 x64
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Sat, 21st Jan 2017 18:33 Post subject: |
|
|
wii u usb helper is definitely the best one, it can verify the files before copying to usb so that you dont end up with bad files.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Sun, 22nd Jan 2017 17:46 Post subject: |
|
|
You guys are brave, I'm too scared to brick my Wii U even if I can obviously read.
I also don't care much about having CFW at boot since I barely use it anyway : after disc games are installed, you don't need to boot CFW to boot them.
Will just wait for zelda disc to leak and will install it with WUP Installer
I guess we are all waiting for this to happen (except headshot, he thinks it's worth buying all games )
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Mon, 23rd Jan 2017 00:27 Post subject: |
|
|
i dont use cfw, just the usual loadiine.ovh exploit with wupinstaller and sigpatcher so i can run eshop games and dlcs without owning a legit ticket.
all that cfw would add to my current setup is a few seconds saved after boot.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
sTo0z
[Moderator] Babysitter
Posts: 7449
Location: USA
|
| Posted: Mon, 23rd Jan 2017 04:52 Post subject: |
|
|
| cyclonefr wrote: | You guys are brave, I'm too scared to brick my Wii U even if I can obviously read.
I also don't care much about having CFW at boot since I barely use it anyway : after disc games are installed, you don't need to boot CFW to boot them.
Will just wait for zelda disc to leak and will install it with WUP Installer
I guess we are all waiting for this to happen (except headshot, he thinks it's worth buying all games ) |
Yah disc tickets are awesome, but I really wanted some DLC and a few eShop titles...
HaxChi super safe, it's CBHC that can get you into trouble, but even then you just have to not do anything stupid.
Good point on that Zelda leak though.. .games being able to be played early is a rare thing these days, would be nice to get that again.
Although, you know me, I'll probably hold out for the Switch version. I know, I know.. whatever.. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Mon, 23rd Jan 2017 10:01 Post subject: |
|
|
Yeah I know you are another headshot
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Mon, 23rd Jan 2017 10:45 Post subject: |
|
|
Since it seems like I won't be buying the Switch anytime soon, I find it very disappointing, I'm looking into a used Wii U. Do I have to check anything before I buy a Wii U, things like FW version and such? Even though I can't de-crypt stooz's long post on this page yet, I want to use HaxChi.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Mon, 23rd Jan 2017 10:53 Post subject: |
|
|
Nope. Latest firmware is exploitable so you can always update it if it wasn't updated.
That is until Nintendo releases a new update (it's been 1 year now lol)....
Then you can only updates from disc to 5.5.1.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
sTo0z
[Moderator] Babysitter
Posts: 7449
Location: USA
|
| Posted: Mon, 23rd Jan 2017 14:26 Post subject: |
|
|
If it leaks early enough on WiiU then I'll be tempted...
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Mon, 23rd Jan 2017 16:14 Post subject: |
|
|
From what I heard, the switch version isn't constant 30 fps...
At least the beta builds.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Wed, 15th Feb 2017 21:30 Post subject: |
|
|
They both look pretty bad; I'll get it for Wii U and then play it on CEMU @ 4K when it's playable.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Horrordee
Soderator
Posts: 8868
Location: England
|
| Posted: Wed, 1st Mar 2017 14:25 Post subject: |
|
|
So I am confused. Is this still the best way of hacking Wii U?
Because the pinned forum post on GBATemp suggests I have to own one of a number of physical games:
https://gbatemp.net/threads/the-definitive-vwii-hacking-guide.425852
What I want to do is find the most simple, ideally free, way of hacking my Wii U and then playing Mario Maker and Zelda!
Space for rent. Contact me for rates!
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Wed, 1st Mar 2017 15:01 Post subject: |
|
|
| Horrordee wrote: |
So I am confused. Is this still the best way of hacking Wii U?
Because the pinned forum post on GBATemp suggests I have to own one of a number of physical games:
https://gbatemp.net/threads/the-definitive-vwii-hacking-guide.425852
What I want to do is find the most simple, ideally free, way of hacking my Wii U and then playing Mario Maker and Zelda! |
You're confusing Wii with Wii U. The Wii can be hacked using an exploit which is what your link explains - I hacked it myself and while it takes some time (a couple of hours) it works very well - especially since the Wii is no longer receiving updates. The Wii U I haven't really bothered hacking - I will, once it stops receiving updates - so I can't help you there.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Wed, 1st Mar 2017 16:11 Post subject: |
|
|
| Horrordee wrote: |
So I am confused. Is this still the best way of hacking Wii U? |
This thread is long but explains a lot of what can/should be done:
https://gbatemp.net/threads/mattkimuras-wii-u-hacking-guide.462121/
To keep things very simple, here's what you should focus on:
- Download the starter pack and unpack it on your SD card as mentioned.
- Extra: download https://github.com/Yardape8000/wupinstaller/releases/tag/y1.3 and extract the folder "wupinstaller" in SDcard:/wiiu/apps. You'll see both a folder "wup_installer_gx2" and "wupinstaller" in the same spot if you did it right.
- Once you have the Zelda files, create a folder named "Install" on your SDcard. Inside it, create a folder for the base Zelda game, and another one for the update. Example: SDcard:/Install/Zelda and Install/Zeldaupdate. Put the title.tik file in install/zelda
Now the part where you install. Make sure you have enough free space on your Wii U.
- Put the sd card in your Wii U, open your internet browser on the console and visit wiiubru.com/mocha (make a bookmark). Click the button it shows. Maybe it bugs out and freezes on a white screen, that means hold the console button power down until the console resets, keep trying until you get a black/command screen. Press A, it'll bring you back to the home screen. If you saw that black screen with text and went back to the home screen, you'll know Mocha worked.
- Once Mocha worked, go to loadiine.ovh/550/HBLK (make a bookmark again). Pick the wupinstaller.
- In the wupinstaller, you'll see options on how to choose between installing Zelda or zeldaupdate and where to install. Choose Zelda first, install on your system (I believe thats the A button), and wait a while. Once that is complete, pick the zeldaupdate, install on system, and wait a little more.
Once that's done? You can play! Follow the same mocha and wupinstaller steps whenever you want to install more games. visit mocha every time you launch your console to be able to play Zelda, otherwise you'll simply get an error.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Horrordee
Soderator
Posts: 8868
Location: England
|
| Posted: Thu, 2nd Mar 2017 18:32 Post subject: |
|
|
Hit a roadblock.
My Zelda download contains a .key and a .wud ... the .wud is 25gb and not supported on FAT32...
What do I do?
Space for rent. Contact me for rates!
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Thu, 2nd Mar 2017 18:38 Post subject: |
|
|
Unpack the .wud with uwizard i believe
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
| Page 2 of 3 |
All times are GMT + 1 Hour |
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
|
Powered by phpBB 2.0.8 © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group
|
|
 |
|
