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Nodrim
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So much bullshit surrounding this game.
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| Posted: Thu, 17th Nov 2016 13:47 Post subject: |
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Well if the patch has a profound effect on performance, which I doubt personally, it makes sense to postpone a review. If the patch isn't coming months after release of course. The game should get a mention of technical problems and a 1 point deduction, even if the game is fixed though.
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| Posted: Thu, 17th Nov 2016 13:48 Post subject: |
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This game deserves same as Arkham Knight got at release for PC.
I bought this ffs on the good promise of the first game. Every studio has one shot at me, until they mess up. These guys messed up. Mouse movement tied to FPS - how in the fucking nine hells did QA not catch this? The fuck is this?
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| Posted: Thu, 17th Nov 2016 13:50 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | | Well if the patch has a profound effect on performance, which I doubt personally, it makes sense to postpone a review. If the patch isn't coming months after release of course. The game should get a mention of technical problems and a 1 point deduction, even if the game is fixed though. |
It doesn't make sense if you want an industry that cares about PC versions.
The problem isn't this one case, but the precedent it might set for others. If we start forgiving crappy ports because of a later patch, then it's just the first step towards acceptance of that sort of shit.
If you can't be bothered to spend that extra few days BEFORE release, you should simply live with the consequences.
If not, we'll just start moving the bar lower and lower.
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| Posted: Thu, 17th Nov 2016 13:57 Post subject: |
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Casus is completely right. If it's available to buy, then it should be marked accordingly right then.
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Nodrim
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| Posted: Thu, 17th Nov 2016 13:58 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | | Well if the patch has a profound effect on performance, which I doubt personally, it makes sense to postpone a review. |
No, it's not, the review should reflect the terrible release otherwise journalists are just encouraging this type of releases.
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| Posted: Thu, 17th Nov 2016 14:24 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 17th Nov 2016 16:33 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | | Well if the patch has a profound effect on performance, which I doubt personally, it makes sense to postpone a review. If the patch isn't coming months after release of course. The game should get a mention of technical problems and a 1 point deduction, even if the game is fixed though. |
Mainstream media shouldn't review games as works of art existing in a vacuum though. they are consumer products, so the consumer experience should be a big part of the review grade.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Thu, 17th Nov 2016 22:46 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | A 6.4GB patch for the PC version of Dishonored 2 is now available through Steam’s beta branch process |
Guess we have that idCrap5 based engine to thank for 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Thu, 17th Nov 2016 22:52 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | the game experienced PC performance problems on machines with specific configurations |
| Quote: | | the recommended driver is still 16.10.2 |
The latest AMD driver is 16.10.3
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Mouse improvements, including a fix for sensitivity being framerate dependent
Fixes an AMD cloth physics issue, which impacts framerates at various points in the game
Fixes an issue affecting CPU task priority - the game no longer switches CPU task priority |
Miracle hasn't happened yet.
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Update 1.2 development is underway and will address a broader range of issues including performance and is estimated to be available in the next week. |
They released this beta patch just to shut us up. We won't be silenced!
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| Posted: Thu, 17th Nov 2016 22:56 Post subject: |
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Nodrim
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| Posted: Thu, 17th Nov 2016 23:34 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 17th Nov 2016 23:37 Post subject: |
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| Nodrim wrote: | https://steamcommunity.com/games/403640/announcements/detail/650037138898335918
Basically this update does almost nothing. |
| Quote: | Our work on Dishonored 2 continues. Update 1.2 development is underway and will address a broader range of issues including performance and is estimated to be available in the next week.
Approximately how long will this game be in Early Access?
We plan to stay in early access till the end of the year. |
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ixigia
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| Posted: Thu, 17th Nov 2016 23:41 Post subject: |
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"Men we have a choice to make. We can build the game upon the greatly improved, performance-friendly itech 6, or we can spend many additional months trying to shoehorn our mechanics into a fundamentally broken engine with traditionally the largest number of negative feedback and limitations among Personal Console users."
"Say no more Harvey!"
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| Posted: Fri, 18th Nov 2016 00:01 Post subject: |
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Hi men, how long is this game? I think its short.
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JBeckman
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| Posted: Fri, 18th Nov 2016 06:10 Post subject: |
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Tried the beta patch and it's a big improvement in performance, framerate never drops below 60 in Karnaca in 1440p high settings with a 980Ti. Prior to the beta patch the framerate would occasionally drop into the 30's.
Don't get me wrong, this certainly isn't great yet but I have high hopes for the final update next week. And at least it's no longer a cinematic console experience and definitely playable now.
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| Posted: Fri, 18th Nov 2016 07:58 Post subject: |
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@ixigia | Quote: | | We can build the game upon the greatly improved, performance-friendly itech 6 |
Afaik they couldn't use idtech 6 back then coz it wasn't available
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| Posted: Fri, 18th Nov 2016 11:09 Post subject: |
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| pontus wrote: | Tried the beta patch and it's a big improvement in performance, framerate never drops below 60 in Karnaca in 1440p high settings with a 980Ti. Prior to the beta patch the framerate would occasionally drop into the 30's.
Don't get me wrong, this certainly isn't great yet but I have high hopes for the final update next week. And at least it's no longer a cinematic console experience and definitely playable now. |
That's good news! Hopefully, I'll be able to play it normally after next week patch.
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| Posted: Fri, 18th Nov 2016 13:31 Post subject: |
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I don't think my performance improved, but at least the mouse is now consistent.
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| Posted: Fri, 18th Nov 2016 13:48 Post subject: |
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Performance was improved for me, but not hugely so. I'd say 10-15% or something like that.
That means I'm finding it playable on Ultra with my 980 ti.
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| Posted: Fri, 18th Nov 2016 14:29 Post subject: |
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Is the mouse finally consistent though? Or is that just placebo?
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| Posted: Fri, 18th Nov 2016 14:31 Post subject: |
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| Radicalus wrote: | | Is the mouse finally consistent though? Or is that just placebo? |
At least the sensitivity no longer changes with FPS.
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| Posted: Fri, 18th Nov 2016 16:11 Post subject: |
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feels better due to less negative acceleration, but still fundamentally the same issues.
the difference between high and ultra for me is 45-60 vs 40-60. medium, low and very low all give me 55-60.
of course, if I disable vsync then it's much worse fps fluctuations, 55-120 on very low vs 40-80 on ultra.
it was the same before the patch. playable, but impossible to set up constant 60 fps in open spaces. always at least one area where you overlook the whole level from a roof or a vantage point, where fps struggles to reach 60 by one or 2 fps at least.
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| Posted: Fri, 18th Nov 2016 16:40 Post subject: |
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| ace2kx wrote: | | Hi men, how long is this game? I think its short. |
It would aprear it is 1.59hrs long and the ending is refund window.
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| Posted: Fri, 18th Nov 2016 16:44 Post subject: |
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for shits and giggles, I tried 640x480 on ultra preset.
got 52 fps in this spot.
a gtx970 at 1.5ghz cannot reach 60fps@640x480 max settings. 
this is the full sized screenshot.
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