The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
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Casus




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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Nov 2016 10:25    Post subject:
TW3 was already incredibly streamlined. People just chose to ignore how mainstream the game was because the story and presentation was excellent.

I'm not sure it would be that big a deal if some other big suit took it over.
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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Nov 2016 10:43    Post subject:
Casus wrote:
TW3 was already incredibly streamlined. People just chose to ignore how mainstream the game was because the story and presentation was excellent.

I'm not sure it would be that big a deal if some other big suit took it over.


That pretending will be so much harder if someone like EA takes over, guess that is what they are freaking out about.
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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Nov 2016 11:45    Post subject:
Casus wrote:
TW3 was already incredibly streamlined. People just chose to ignore how mainstream the game was because the story and presentation was excellent.

I'm not sure it would be that big a deal if some other big suit took it over.


"Incredibly streamlined" compared to what? Just in case you're confused for some esoteric reason, Witcher isn't cRPG, never was, not even the first game in the series was (not that there's anything wrong with it), and I think there's a general agreement that TW3 is the best in the series. So stop implying that it can't get much much worse (as usual trying to appear smarter than you really are) if a company like EA takes possession of it and does a Dragon Age on it, just to name one of many awful things that could happen to it, going by numerous past events.
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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Nov 2016 11:50    Post subject:
4treyu wrote:
Casus wrote:
TW3 was already incredibly streamlined. People just chose to ignore how mainstream the game was because the story and presentation was excellent.

I'm not sure it would be that big a deal if some other big suit took it over.


"Incredibly streamlined" compared to what? Just in case you're confused for some reason, Witcher isn't cRPG, never was, not even the first game in the series was (not that there's anything wrong with it), and I think there's a general agreement that TW3 is the best in the series. So stop implying that it can't get much much worse (as usual trying to appear smarter than you really are) if a company like EA takes possession of it and does a Dragon Age on it, just to name one of many awful things that could happen to it, going by numerous past events.


Let's try not to be upset when people disagree.

I'm not saying TW3 is a bad game - or that it's not the best in the series. I'm saying it's very streamlined compared to other CRPG classics. Yes, it's a CRPG, obviously. I would call it an Action RPG, personally, but it's most defintely an RPG - as most people would agree with.

Streamlined meaning there's little to no challenge involved - except a little combat challenge on Death March. I mean, everything you're supposed to do is spelled out for you by markers, logs and "Witcher Senses". You don't have to think about anything at all. Even the "detective" quests are entirely oriented around your Witcher senses.

Doesn't mean it's bad - it just means it's already a mainstream game.

I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings and that you suffer from some kind of inferiority complex that must make other people arrogant because they don't agree with you.


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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Nov 2016 11:51    Post subject:
Someone talks bad about a game, and the usual fanatic fanboy appears.
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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Nov 2016 12:41    Post subject:
Casus wrote:
TW3 was already incredibly streamlined. People just chose to ignore how mainstream the game was because the story and presentation was excellent.

I'm not sure it would be that big a deal if some other big suit took it over.

Yeah, people are stupid, you are smart since you see through their deceit.
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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Nov 2016 12:44    Post subject:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
Someone talks bad about a game, and the usual fanatic fanboys appear.
Laughing


A real classic Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Nov 2016 12:48    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
Casus wrote:
TW3 was already incredibly streamlined. People just chose to ignore how mainstream the game was because the story and presentation was excellent.

I'm not sure it would be that big a deal if some other big suit took it over.

Yeah, people are stupid, you are smart since you see through their deceit.


So you are saying that people are not ignoring the streamlining and problems of this game? I'm sure the combat system, the challenge level, itemization, hand hold exploration, filler content, UI, etc. are all top notch elements worth praising.
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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Nov 2016 12:53    Post subject:
So what's going on in this thre-



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Casus




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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Nov 2016 13:18    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
Casus wrote:
TW3 was already incredibly streamlined. People just chose to ignore how mainstream the game was because the story and presentation was excellent.

I'm not sure it would be that big a deal if some other big suit took it over.

Yeah, people are stupid, you are smart since you see through their deceit.


I don't know if people are stupid because they're in denial, but if you insist Smile

Also, I don't know if it's deceitful of CDPR to cater to the mainstream audience. Why would it be?


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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Nov 2016 13:19    Post subject:
Nodrim wrote:
Mister_s wrote:
Casus wrote:
TW3 was already incredibly streamlined. People just chose to ignore how mainstream the game was because the story and presentation was excellent.

I'm not sure it would be that big a deal if some other big suit took it over.

Yeah, people are stupid, you are smart since you see through their deceit.


So you are saying that people are not ignoring the streamlining and problems of this game? I'm sure the combat system, the challenge level, itemization, hand hold exploration, filler content, UI, etc. are all top notch elements worth praising.


Don't be such an arrogant smart-ass!!!!!

How dare you point out the obvious, do you have a god complex or something?!?!?
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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Nov 2016 16:06    Post subject:
Come on now. Almost two pages of this crap? Rolling Eyes

People have different opinions.


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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Nov 2016 16:14    Post subject:
Laughing people arguing about video games Laughing

and nothing is gonna happen to cd, not that i would give a ff if something would happen Laughing


Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. Reaction
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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Nov 2016 18:15    Post subject:
Casus wrote:
Yes, it's a CRPG, obviously.


Suspicion confirmed Wink You're confused, obviously, and I'm not trying to get you out of that state cause I already know how it ends (or never ends Laughing), I'd really rather spend 300 turns loop-researching "Future Tech" in a game of Civ.

tonizito wrote:
So what's going on in this thre-



Man, the discussion surely got derailed fast since I made my single post. It was supposed to be about the possibility of a big company ruining the legacy (if not outright sending it to Oblivion) of CDP-R and not about the merits of TW3 itself.

Anyway, looking to get the discussion on the right track again, I invite people to keep discussing about the devastating effects of the possible hostile takeover (though better done in the other separate thread) Smile
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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Nov 2016 18:59    Post subject:
Oh my, TW3 not a roleplaying game... That's certainly an interesting opinion Wink

Sure, let's get back on track - now that you're finished crying over a differing opinion that was relevant to the topic.
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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Nov 2016 19:23    Post subject:
@4treyu A legacy? For 3 games and a card game? Pls tell me if this is an elaborate troll.
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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Nov 2016 19:52    Post subject:
@harry_theone
You still give that kiddo attention? Sad


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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Nov 2016 20:11    Post subject:
@Bob Barnsen He's in need of it, obviously Cool Face
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Nov 2016 09:28    Post subject:
Quote:
The Witcher 3's lead designer departs from CD Projekt Red



http://www.gamereactor.eu/news/479023/The+Witcher+3s+lead+designer+departs+from+CD+Projekt+Red/


A hostile takeover is inevitable and rats are leaving the sinking ship? Laughing mI seriously hope we won't get CrapWare 2.0.


PS Meanwhile Vivendi is on the offensive:

Quote:
Vivendi now owns nearly 25% of Ubisoft as it continues to snap up shares


Perhaps ubilol is not the only studio they want to get.


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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Nov 2016 09:36    Post subject:
So my thought of Vivendi Ubisoft eating up CDPR isn't that far fetched Laughing

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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Nov 2016 11:16    Post subject:
h0rnyfavn wrote:
Quote:
The Witcher 3's lead designer departs from CD Projekt Red



http://www.gamereactor.eu/news/479023/The+Witcher+3s+lead+designer+departs+from+CD+Projekt+Red/


A hostile takeover is inevitable and rats are leaving the sinking ship? Laughing mI seriously hope we won't get CrapWare 2.0.


PS Meanwhile Vivendi is on the offensive:

Quote:
Vivendi now owns nearly 25% of Ubisoft as it continues to snap up shares


Perhaps ubilol is not the only studio they want to get.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think he was TW3's lead designer. He designed Gwent and was lead on it's standalone iteration.
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Nov 2016 14:45    Post subject:
Aquma wrote:
h0rnyfavn wrote:
Quote:
The Witcher 3's lead designer departs from CD Projekt Red



http://www.gamereactor.eu/news/479023/The+Witcher+3s+lead+designer+departs+from+CD+Projekt+Red/


A hostile takeover is inevitable and rats are leaving the sinking ship? Laughing mI seriously hope we won't get CrapWare 2.0.


PS Meanwhile Vivendi is on the offensive:

Quote:
Vivendi now owns nearly 25% of Ubisoft as it continues to snap up shares


Perhaps ubilol is not the only studio they want to get.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think he was TW3's lead designer. He designed Gwent and was lead on it's standalone iteration.


http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-11-07-gwent-the-witcher-card-game-co-creator-damien-monnier-leaves-cd-projekt-red



Quote:
"Damien was part of the duo that designed the mini-game gamers know from Wild Hunt, and he did play an important role in making standalone Gwent happen. However, it's worth remembering that this game is being developed by a team that is more than a few dozen strong, with quite a lot of designers on board. We have a precise roadmap for Gwent and that has not changed at all.


Hardly the lead designer... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Nov 2016 15:34    Post subject:
Well, good riddance then Laughing


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there's no difference between the two versions Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Dec 2016 08:43    Post subject:
didnt read before i posted, i thought they were reffering if you have it already on steam Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Dec 2016 09:22    Post subject:
i still dont really understand the witcher goty thing... at least on pc.. isnt it purely the base game with all dlc included? And if you already have the game with the dlc, then... why would goty even be a thing? are there new achievements or something?

or is it PURELY because unlike on steam, with gog you have to manually install the separate dlc's and goty eliminates that?


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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Dec 2016 10:04    Post subject:
The Main menu says "GOTY edition" or something......what a vast difference.
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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Dec 2016 10:06    Post subject:
It's a re-release, nothing more. It's aimed at people who don't have the game yet. There's no difference on either PC or the consoles, but it's simply easier and sometimes cheaper to buy GOTY than base game + expansions.
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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Dec 2016 10:15    Post subject:
my point/question is in terms of giving it to those who already have the game + dlc... whats the point, is it purely that all dlc is self contained? otherwise its just a duplicate entry that would download and play exactly the same as the other copy they already have.


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