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Toxikbrain




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Aug 2016 18:10    Post subject: New computer, need some advice
Been a few years and I can finally spend some money Smile
So it's that time again, building a new computer.
What will it be used for? mainly playing World of Warcraft Laughing and some other games from time to time.
For now I have an old 24inch Monitor bit I am planning to change it later this year.

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K Boxed (it this overkill? perhaps a 6600K also just fine?)
MOBO: Clueless. But it doesnt have to be too expensive. Won't be overlocking anything apart from CPU perhaps if it's easy to do.
RAM: Clueless. 16GB? 32GB? What brand and speed?
GFX: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 GAMING X 8G (good 1070 choice?)
SSD: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB
Case: Any suggestions? Black. And just a simple case with proper airflow and not too much noise.
PSU: No idea really. Modular though.
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Aug 2016 18:38    Post subject:
paxsali wrote:
i7-6700K, 16Gb RAM 2666Mhz, GTX 1070, only one SSD? only 250Gb? Srsly?

PSU: XFX has a fanless/passive cooled 520W PSU if you like absolute silence, 520W will be enough, but you would need to upgrade PSU when you go SLI or upgrade GPU after all.


Yes 250GB should be plenty Smile I have 120GB for some years now and never had issues, always have plenty of space left.
Gonna look up that RAM, 16GB is enough? Havent been into that for years.
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Aug 2016 18:57    Post subject:
Do your research on the PSU carefully.
Not a good idea to have a ton of money riding on some crap PSU, look into some seasonic, antec and rosewill units first


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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Aug 2016 19:19    Post subject:
16GB of RAM is barely enough
when I play Doom I have to close Chrome else I reach max.. Sad


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and yes, mine is only average
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Aug 2016 19:22    Post subject:
I will check those PSU brands in the store I want to buy my stuff and make my choise Smile Thanks
Do like the idea of a modular PSU.

Any ideas on the Motherboard?
And 16GB it will be, but I think the typ is not that important? Kingston or Crucial should be fine?
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Aug 2016 19:34    Post subject:
Attention whores aside, most of the fanned quality PSU's from those 3 brands are relatively silent.
Check/post what's available on the store you're going to buy it from so we can have a better idea Very Happy


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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Aug 2016 19:38    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
Attention whores aside, most of the fanned quality PSU's from those 3 brands are relatively silent.
Check/post what's available on the store you're going to buy it from so we can have a better idea Very Happy


https://www.cdromland.nl/

If you can find your way on a dutch site Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Aug 2016 19:44    Post subject:
https://www.cdromland.nl/product/948/952176/PC-Voedingen/Seasonic-M12II-Evo-520W
https://www.cdromland.nl/product/948/952177/PC-Voedingen/Seasonic-M12II-Evo-620W

One of these would fit the bill just right, but 0 stuks
Not sure about the corsair ones on the same range, might use seasonic designs or not, if not they probably use CWT designs. Even if they have seasonic designs you might as well go for the real thing.


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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Aug 2016 20:12    Post subject:
Thanks to the replies I have come to this so far

Intel Core i5 6600K
MSI GeForce GTX 1070 GAMING X 8G
Kingston DDR4 HyperX Fury 2x8GB 2666
Samsung 850 EVO 250GB
Seasonic M12II Evo 520W

Did decide to go for the i5 6600K, saves me a lot of money.
All I need now is to decide which MOBO and PC Case Smile
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Aug 2016 05:04    Post subject:
StrEagle wrote:
16GB of RAM is barely enough
when I play Doom I have to close Chrome else I reach max.. Sad


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Toxikbrain




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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Aug 2016 09:32    Post subject:
Can anyone help me on which MOBO to choose?
There are so many Sad
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Aug 2016 14:32    Post subject:
take the cheapest z170 board which offers all connectors you need
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Aug 2016 18:20    Post subject:
Or compare features at same price point, then check for reviews for the one that interests you the most.

In my case for the same price as other brands (other that asus and their usually overpriced BS that is...) I found that gigabyte had some advantages: dual bios, had crossfire AND SLI support as opposed to the other brands and a slightly better sound chip.
Apparently it also consumes a bit more power than the competition (from 8 to 20 Watts, oh noes Laughing) but I can live with that


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Aug 2016 18:27    Post subject:
If you want cheap and top notch PSU, get EVGA G2 series, 550W G2 will run your system even if you would OC it to the max without any problems. Has also 7 year warranty and is a fully modular, absolutely fantastic PSU lineup.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Aug 2016 20:11    Post subject:
I have the XFX 550w and its been dead silent till now, hope it continues that way Very Happy good psu

AS for the mobo, im happy with this asus, some other users from the hump have it also !

So i would definatly recommend these components.


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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Aug 2016 09:28    Post subject:
Well I ordered all my things yesterday, should be able to pick them up tomorrow

Intel Core i5 6600K (might still switch to i7 6700k tomorrow when I go and pick it up, but not too sure Laughing )
MSI GeForce GTX 1070 GAMING X 8G
Kingston DDR4 HyperX 2x8GB 2666
Samsung 750 EVO 250GB
Seasonic M12II Evo 520W
Asus Z170 PRO GAMING
Sharkoon BW9000
Cooler Master Hyper212 Evo (might replace it later this year)
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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Aug 2016 13:48    Post subject:
I would go with the 6700k, i know a lot of people will tell you that games nowadays dont really require it, but it has been tested, in games like gtav or the witcher 3, you will benefit greatly from a 6700k, especialy if your aiming at more than 60fps at ultra settings (wich i am not, and i still got a 6700k)

I was debating this myself with a couple of humpers a few weeks back when i was going from a 4460 to a 6700k and a 760 to a 1070 and i have come to the conclusion after many benchmarks and videos that although it is still not a standard, some games are fully utilizing all the cores when it comes to a i7, and more will proly be going to in the future, assuming we wont have many crap ports, and even than, u will proly drill throught them with ease with a 6700k, some i5 are really hiting that 90%/100% usage on some games atm, not many, but a few..

If you like me play all types of games, cpu intensive games can really push an i5 and can bottleneck you, especialy if you will go for a high hz monitor.. wich i dont have atm.


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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Aug 2016 14:04    Post subject:
hellishere wrote:
I would go with the 6700k, i know a lot of people will tell you that games nowadays dont really require it, but it has been tested, in games like gtav or the witcher 3, you will benefit greatly from a 6700k, especialy if your aiming at more than 60fps at ultra settings (wich i am not, and i still got a 6700k)

I was debating this myself with a couple of humpers a few weeks back when i was going from a 4460 to a 6700k and a 760 to a 1070 and i have come to the conclusion after many benchmarks and videos that although it is still not a standard, some games are fully utilizing all the cores when it comes to a i7, and more will proly be going to in the future, assuming we wont have many crap ports, and even than, u will proly drill throught them with ease with a 6700k, some i5 are really hiting that 90%/100% usage on some games atm, not many, but a few..

If you like me play all types of games, cpu intensive games can really push an i5 and can bottleneck you, especialy if you will go for a high hz monitor.. wich i dont have atm.


You conviced me Very Happy I just needed a push haha
It only costs me a bit more, I am getting amazing discount already.
Gonna buy all this stuff (including the i7 6700K instead of i5) for 750 euro so I could not resist and needed an total upgrade anyway.
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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Aug 2016 19:29    Post subject:
Toxikbrain wrote:
hellishere wrote:
I would go with the 6700k, i know a lot of people will tell you that games nowadays dont really require it, but it has been tested, in games like gtav or the witcher 3, you will benefit greatly from a 6700k, especialy if your aiming at more than 60fps at ultra settings (wich i am not, and i still got a 6700k)

I was debating this myself with a couple of humpers a few weeks back when i was going from a 4460 to a 6700k and a 760 to a 1070 and i have come to the conclusion after many benchmarks and videos that although it is still not a standard, some games are fully utilizing all the cores when it comes to a i7, and more will proly be going to in the future, assuming we wont have many crap ports, and even than, u will proly drill throught them with ease with a 6700k, some i5 are really hiting that 90%/100% usage on some games atm, not many, but a few..

If you like me play all types of games, cpu intensive games can really push an i5 and can bottleneck you, especialy if you will go for a high hz monitor.. wich i dont have atm.


You conviced me Very Happy I just needed a push haha
It only costs me a bit more, I am getting amazing discount already.
Gonna buy all this stuff (including the i7 6700K instead of i5) for 750 euro so I could not resist and needed an total upgrade anyway.


Glad i could be of help, i was in the same boat, i battled throught it and it wasnt easy Very Happy but its worth it, in a couple of years when the next witcher or gta (open world game) comes out, you will be using those cores fully, im pretty sure, and some i5's wont hold those 60 fps imo, but i could be wrong ! I hope im not though ! Very Happy

Congratz on the upgrade, it feels good to buy new hardware Very Happy


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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Sep 2016 16:52    Post subject:
Might as well post this here, no need for a new thread.

Here's what I had in mind for my first ever fully-from-scratch build (only had to replace a couple little things in older rigs before).

CPU
Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor
$227.99
Seemed like a decent pairing for the 1070. Plus it can be OCd if need be.


CPU Cooler
Noctua NH-L9i 33.8 CFM CPU Cooler
$38.88
Just something relatively cheap, until I need something beefier.


Motherboard
MSI B150I GAMING PRO AC Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard
$106.99
No idea if this is a good one or not. Has the slots I need, everything else is Poker Face . Size restrictions obviously narrowed my options.


Memory
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory
$79.88
No idea if memory speed is really that big a factor, and what I heard were wildly inconsistent, so I just went with the middle road on this component.

Storage
Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
$99.88
Boot drive and games that benefit from SSDs.

Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
$48.71
Mass storage.


Video Card
EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card
$409.99
Seemed like the one to go with, if I don't give a rat's ass about 4k, but can be persuaded to get a 1440p monitor later.


Case
Corsair 250D Mini ITX Tower Case
$84.99
Because room is an important factor in my living arrangement, and reviews of this one were quite favorable, and vids of it showed it to be relatively easy to get around in. Not very flashy, but still have a small window on the top, in case I ever get showy. Plus it comes with filters already included.


Power Supply
EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
$42.99
Here I was totally lost. Pcpartpicker gave me a 350-ish wattage on the whole thing, so 500W seemed like more than enough head room for it. I can only assume pcpartpicker was smart enough to check for size compatibility.



Should come out at around $1100, which means I'll have to wait a couple months more to have enough money to start ordering them, but I though I'd ask for a bit of help.

Any input is welcome. The only thing I don't want to compromise on are the price-range, the case size, the 16 GB RAM and the GTX 1070 (switching models is fine tho).
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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Sep 2016 17:02    Post subject:
Eeeeeeh get a better PSU.
That one is not as bad as most generic 500W crapzorz out there but you should always invest in a good quality brand PSU (not necessarily on one with higher wattage).

Search for antec, seasonic, enermax, silverstone or rosewill ones and get one of those, even if you have to spend a bit more. Remember, it's "just" one of the most important parts of your system after all


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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Sep 2016 17:08    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
Eeeeeeh get a better PSU.
That one is not as bad as most generic 500W crapzorz out there but you should always invest in a good quality brand PSU (not necessarily on one with higher wattage).

Search for antec, seasonic, enermax, silverstone or rosewill ones and get one of those, even if you have to spend a bit more. Remember, it's "just" one of the most important parts of your system after all

Cheers, how about this one?

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/DPCwrH/seasonic-power-supply-ssr550rm

Or this, which is almost half as expensive in certain places.

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/TgW9TW/seasonic-power-supply-m12ii520bronze
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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Sep 2016 17:13    Post subject:
Either one is just fine, the second is a bit more expensive since it's modular (a bit less hassle than a fully wired one) but the first is just as good

EDIT: No wait, saw that bass ackwards Laughing
Second model is more expensive since it's more effective, meaning that you'll end up having a slightly more powerful 550W PSU drawing less energy than the 520W one.
Might as well as go for the gold, it will pay itself after a while Very Happy


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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Sep 2016 18:03    Post subject:
Thanks, added the gold one to the list.

I think I'll start ordering them around January, prices might go down a bit after Xmas, and it's a nice present for myself. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Sep 2016 18:23    Post subject:
if you plan to buy it in 2-3 months -> come back then and ask again
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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Sep 2016 18:38    Post subject:
What's the point in getting an unlocked CPU with a non-Z motherboard?
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