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| Posted: Sat, 4th Jun 2016 10:48 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 4th Jun 2016 11:30 Post subject: |
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How about you don't buy anything until the situation clears a bit and until you actually need faster CPU?
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| Posted: Sat, 4th Jun 2016 11:45 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 5th Jun 2016 18:04 Post subject: |
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| paxsali wrote: | | couleur wrote: | | I'm getting a Skylake i3 Nuc though for video streaming and emulators. |
I had this idea forever, but dem nucs are just too expensive, IMHO.
By my life, I will build one of these before I die!
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They are expensive, but I cannot, for the life of me, find a cheaper alternative.
The only one is Intel Braswell NUCs but they are even more limited.
I am hopeful, the Skylake core i3-6100U in that NUC can run PCSX2 at acceptable speeds.
Plus, these things have infra-red, SD-Card etc.
Initially I was going for a Raspberry Pi 3 with openelec, but that thing doesnt support Netflix.
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| Posted: Sun, 5th Jun 2016 18:22 Post subject: |
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I built a skylake system for someone the other day, took me 4 hours to figure out that Intel fucked with the USB shit and had to patch usb drivers into my windows installation just to get it to work.
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| Posted: Sun, 5th Jun 2016 18:35 Post subject: |
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only if u use outdated windows versions and usb3 ports to install it
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| Posted: Sun, 5th Jun 2016 20:37 Post subject: |
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yeah, you could have just plugged the stick into a USB 2 port. win7 doesn't have native USB 3.0 support.
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http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/high_end_skylake_processors_to_get_yet_another_socket.html
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Intel is a big fan of swapping out CPU socket as often as they can, it seems that with the successor to Broadwell-E, the Skylake-X and Kaby Lake-X (yes the X is new) we'll move to Socket 2066. new information surfaced, read it after the break.
The platform for all this is called Basin Falls platform and includes new processors and a chipset refresh with a new socket . Socket R4, as the official code name reads is getting 2,066 pins and provides a home to two new Skylake-X and Kaby Lake-X series.
Skylake-X will include six , eight and ten core CPUs with a TDP around 140 watts and thus follow Broadwell-E . Under the name Kaby Lake-X there are also will be quad-cores for socket 2066, with fewer PCI Express lanes and only two memory channels. Also for Kaby Lake-X Turbo Boost 3.0 is not supported. There will also be a new chipset which includes ten integrated USB 3.0 ports and eight SATA600 ports. It is still unclear whether USB 3.1 will also be part of the chipset. We do know that there are up to 24 PCI Express 3.0 lanes , and a built-in Intel LAN controller are present. According to the leaked slides, the new processors come to market in the second half of 2017.
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Do you even need 2066 pins? Although I guess now that the role is reversed and the pins are on the motherboard (Fatherboard ?  ) and not the CPU (Which is flat.) there's less chance of fumbling and bending the hell out of them.
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Jul 2016 10:59 Post subject: |
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Pins and holes again, intel? Those tools of the patriarchy?
Thought you guys were better than that 
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Jul 2016 12:48 Post subject: |
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I have an 5820k, with base clocks and its doing very nice in games. Yeah fallout tends to go 30-40 fps but it will go with other CPUs as well.
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Jul 2016 18:59 Post subject: |
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Pretty odd, i dont get any drops, but im on 1080p 60hz..
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Jul 2016 20:49 Post subject: |
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remember men, both core clock and RAM speed matter in fallout 4. so if you got some entry level ddr 3/4 and a stock CPU, yeah, there will be scenes in fallout 4 where your GPU won't be fed fast enough.
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http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=408871
http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/6_core_intel_processors_going_mainstream_in_2018_with_coffee_lake.html
Coffee Lake in 2018
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As AMDs processors close in with some Zen slowly yet steadily we see some movement at Intel as well. For ages now 4-core processors have been the norm in the mainstream desktop segment, it seems that 6-core Intel processors are finally becoming mainstream in 2018.
In it's yearly Form 10-K document about Intel's financials the company now really makes note of a three-step cycle. So after a new procedure (die shrink), there will be a new architecture followed by an upgrade of that architecture. This way Intel can release a new processor each year. However it now seems there will even be a 4th step.
Basically following Kaby Lake to release there will be a fourth generation processor series fabbed on the 14nm production process called Coffee Lake. It is interesting as at that same time the mobile/laptop Cannon Lake processors have already moved to 10 nm. It does make sense as Intel over a year ago announced to abandon its tick-tock model, which alternately introduced a new architecture and a new production process. Basically Intel will use whatever fab process works out the best for them practially and economically aimed at a certain target area. So there will be a fourth generation 14nm product series, in the form of Coffee Lake.
Coffee Lake CPUs will get two, four or six cores and will get a GT3e, an on-board GPU with dedicated video memory. The processors are rated at a 35 Watt to 45 Watt TDP range.
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Yeah they're slowly starting to speed up although it also spreads the CPU's out over a larger range of different models.
Used to be Tick -> Tock, new architecture and then optimizing/improving said architecture and then back to new architecture.
Now it's well it's gone entirely but a bit like Tick -> Tock, Tock, Tock -> Tick or as it's called "Process, Architecture, Optimization." and now with Coffee Lake there's a fourth step somewhere in there.
Going by the diagram from this article showing CPU models from Intel we had Broadwell in 2014 (And 2015 with I guess they mean Broadwell-E) as the 14nm "Process" and then Skylake in 2016 as the "Architecture" of 14nm and in 2017 we'll see Kaby Lake as the "Optimization" step of 14nm before Intel moves to 10nm with Cannonlake Icelake and Tigerlake for Process, Architecture, Optimization for 10nm over 2018 to 2020
And now Coffe lake wedges in-between 14nm and 10nm as a second optimization step to Intel's 14nm before they go to 10nm with Cannonlake.
EDIT: With who knows how many motherboard revisions in addition to this, I think Skylake is using H170 or what it was called but a H2xx is apparently in production and as posted a bit earlier new CPU models with different pin layout thus requiring new motherboards.
The *70 number also usually means mid to high end with *90 being the high end to enthusiast grade CPU models but there isn't a x190 motherboard leaving x99 and Broadwell-E as the enthusiast CPU or how to say.
(Not sure about Kaby Lake, Skylake is still only four core as I remember it and that might be the case with Kaby too if Coffee Lake is going to be the introduction of six-core CPU models in that performance range, no idea what awaits once Intel gets to 10nm as that's a bit further out.)
EDIT: Going by the upper colored diagram then for either late 2017 or early 2018 Cannonlake is going to initially be a lower end model at 10nm with 2 channel RAM and a "GT2" I guess that's the iGPU it's using?
(Y series as a lower-end but energy efficient CPU and then U as a bit faster but still energy efficient, 4 core?)
And then Coffee Lake at 14nm will be U which I'm not sure if that's numbered *60 or perhaps lower and H (IE H270) as the higher-end models.
(2 channel RAM and a GT3e IGPU for the U models and 2/4/6 channel RAM and also a GT3e iGPU for the H models.)
EDIT: Basically the numbering and letters Intel uses for their motherboard chipset types if that was unclear, Y as I think that might even be a micro model or for other mobile platforms and then U was the lower-end tier with H as the higher-end and finally X for enthusiast but there doesn't seem to be one for these CPU models, yet.
(Not sure about the numbering, I'd guess Y250 or something and then U260 and H270 since H is usually 70 with X going to the odd numbered X299 if that hasn't changed, and had it existed.)
Not sure if it's going to be the 200-series motherboards either, some might remain compatible with the 100 series for all I know and later ones could see yet another motherboard design seeing that Intel likes changing sockets/pins around for whatever that's good for. 
(In addition to adding newer specs to said motherboard which actually has a purpose. )
EDIT: Post has evolved into Wall of Text. 
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| Posted: Thu, 21st Jul 2016 14:33 Post subject: |
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Probably here:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=728693034
(although you can climb even higher on a nearby building)
Managed to get 60 fps in there with all on ultra (at sub-peasant 1440x900, mind you), save for shadow distance on medium. Somehow the game seems to hang that on the CPU, crashing it down when you stand on point x looking to point Y 
And yeah, I was using the enb tool and the game was making something like 12-14k draw calls on that spot, 3-8K on every other direction.
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But there are even worst places 
Crash site near vault 81 at certain times has an even bigger drop when you are south of it looking north at the flames.
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Thu, 21st Jul 2016 18:34 Post subject: |
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Yeah, I finally passed the corvega 60 fps exam too xD
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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