Regressive Leftists, everything is racist, diversity is great, PC culture is great, Islam is not rotten to it's core, all religions are equally bad, cops are trained to escalate and take no chances, ... you get the picture.
Anyways, one host is comedian Jimmy Dore from The Jimmy Dore Show and he recently attacked me for no obvious reason. Called me a "rape apologist".
(I marked what I believe must be the comments in question in red)
Funny thing is, it wasn't even related to no TYT video, it was over at Kyle Kulinski's Secular Talk channel (which is part of the TYT network tho).
I basically only commented how demented and lost Bill Cosby seemed in of one interview he did.
Essentially, the interviewer asked him one question A and Cosby diverted into B, C, D and whatnot, it wasn't even funny.
Anyway, I made very few comments afterwards replying to some peoples responses and then suddenly,
more then half a year later, BOOM, Jimmy Dore comes from nothing, calls me a rape apologist and leaves.
Fucking emotional trainwrecks those young turds, I'm telling ya.
The can't discuss or tell their opinions based on facts or reason, everything is "emotionalized" and "polarized", either you're on our team or you're the enemy. Sad.
At no point did I defend rape, I only stated how easy it was to jump on an already published story and how it's not necessarily a meassure of credibility to have 50 women with all the same basic story when it comes to showbiz and a celebrity / public figure.
I explicitly defended scepticism, if anything. Also, note that those comments of mine were waaaaaaaaay before Cosby admitted the drugging for sex.
We're talking about how that Jimmy Dore comedian (no, literally he's a comedian) came after the fact (after Cosby's admission) in best Nelson from the Simpsons manner to point his finger at me and go "Ha Ha", told ya.
My comments were from mid May 2015, Cosby came out on July 6th 2015. Well after the fact!
WTF? What childish nonsense...
Fuck you, Jimmy Dore. You're not even funny.
Sauce:
"There will be no end to the troubles of humanity, until philosophers become kings, or kings become philosophers.", Plato.
"Hyperbole will destroy us all.", Matt Dillahunty.
"The hyperbole, the demonization of the other opinion and the unwillingness to even read the opposing opinion destroys the so important political discussions necessary for the well functioning of society.", Couleur
Honestly, it seems like a lot of people in America still act like they are children in school with silly bickering. I wouldn't let a bad/unfunny political comedian (i think?) bother you. There are a lot of unintelligent people in the world, and there are a lot of Adult children in America.
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but you like them so much and now they attack you.
tyt are one of the most retarded people on the webz. fucking hate them especially the fat one.
"look at me everyone look at me"
Congrats on managing to get attention from some C class celeb.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
I don't have much of an opinion on Jimmy (except for that I don't agree with him often), but I wouldn't call tyt bad in general. They cover a wide range of stuff and yeah, on a very shallow level, but they have partner channels that cover some of the stuff more in depth and if you want even more details you'll just have to search for another network. It's funny that Ben Mankiewicz is doing mainly sports topics but I basically agree with everything he says over Cenk and Jimmy's opinion. John is also great. Ana is the same as Cenk imho.
For the ones not knowing Jimmy (from left to right: Ben Mankiewicz, Jimmy Dore, Cenk Uygur & John Iadarola)
That is not a coincidence, I spent 15 minutes searching for exact this video
BTW I said jump to 7:00 and it looks as if Ben is hyper aggressive.. Normally he isn't like that, but when Jimmy talks such bullshit even Ben gets super angry
But it's obvious that the police is trained to escalate, just not literally. But their training is so bad, that they will always fall back into their behaviour where it'll be just "it's either me or him and I am the police so it WILL be him". That's what they are talking about. Jimmy is just talking bullshit and Ben understood the issue but didn't like Jimmy's wording a bit, which I can fully understand. And Cenk was just trying to de-escalate by mumbling something something dark side.
But it's obvious that the police is trained to escalate, just not literally.
As Ben said: semantics, language matters.
With the same argument you could "say", that Cops are trained to be racist and kill black people over-proportionally.
If you look at the stats, the numbers don't lie.
But that doesn't tell you jack shit about intention and official policy / training.
PumpAction wrote:
But their training is so bad, that they will always fall back into their behaviour where it'll be just "it's either me or him and I am the police so it WILL be him". That's what they are talking about.
No. That's what Ben is talking about.
The other are talking about is "this + X". And that dogmatic little "plus X" rat tail is exactly the center of controversy in their discussion. Let's not fool ourselves here.
They are doing their jobs already as journalist talking about it, criticizing the police as it already is, but that is no justification to "add some personal salt" to the soup, you know.
That was what Ben meant when he said "by doing that they we are undermining the same procedures that are necessary to bring about the longed for change" (paraphrasing here, don't remember the exact quote).
By saying shit like "Cops are trained to escalate", they are demonizing the cops, when it would have been more accurate and truthful to just criticize them based on what we can plainly, openly and undeniably see is their current behavior.
PumpAction wrote:
Jimmy is just talking bullshit and Ben understood the issue but didn't like Jimmy's wording a bit, which I can fully understand. And Cenk was just trying to de-escalate by mumbling something something dark side.
As always... but that "wording" gave the content / issue a whole new qualitative curb that they couldn't possible demonstrate as true. It was "wording", but that wording was relevant.
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