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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Dec 2015 00:20    Post subject:
Its a space sim game, there is no land, sky, etc, performance should be 3x better then this crap ATM!
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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Dec 2015 01:07    Post subject:
Seafort wrote:
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qqq wrote:


How would they control the beast on their pathetic 10 button pads ? The game has like 60 keys mapped to different functions on the keyboard. Surely Roberts knows assassins will come after him if this turns out to be true.


Gamepad controls are already in the game, with modifier buttons to allow for more controls.

There is nothing in the game right now that could not be ported to consoles - I imagine the ships might need 'streamlining' - but Roberts would have no issue with this if it meant another $100mil.


The consoles can only just run Fallout 4 and Just Cause 3 and you think they'll be able to run Star Citizen at around 30 fps? Not a chance in hell.

Gamepad support is one thing, making the game run on those laptop specc'd boxes is an entirely different matter Smile


Any game can be 'streamlined' enough to work on a PS4 at least - just look at stuff like Eve: Valkyre, and Battlefront - no depth, but the graphics are undeniably pretty. That's all SC is, pretty. It might have a game in there somewhere, eventually, but it's just a whole lot of pretty. And pretty can be downgraded, as we all know.


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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Dec 2015 01:28    Post subject:
Kaltern wrote:
But then I thought I'd try something. I dialed up the monitor to triple-screen - and get identical framerates. If this was a performance thing, then I should be looking at something like 10-20fps max, given the res is 5760*1080. But no, it's still at 30-45fps.


Actually all that means is that your CPU can't render faster then 30-45fps, your GPU is not working at its maximum.

So either your CPU is completely maxed, or whatever its doing its only able to use one core, something they will hopefully fix.
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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Dec 2015 06:54    Post subject:
bart5986 wrote:
Kaltern wrote:
But then I thought I'd try something. I dialed up the monitor to triple-screen - and get identical framerates. If this was a performance thing, then I should be looking at something like 10-20fps max, given the res is 5760*1080. But no, it's still at 30-45fps.


Actually all that means is that your CPU can't render faster then 30-45fps, your GPU is not working at its maximum.

So either your CPU is completely maxed, or whatever its doing its only able to use one core, something they will hopefully fix.


They are working on the engine for dx12 support (not just enabling the api, that would be pointless). But it won't be done until sometime next year. I forget the specifics but something about better support for multithreaded workloads and so on.

That should hopefully help.


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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Dec 2015 11:26    Post subject:
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So either your CPU is completely maxed, or whatever its doing its only able to use one core, something they will hopefully fix.


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something they will hopefully fix


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hopefully fix


I read this exact same thing on the RSI forums - either you posted it, or you read it and just copied it to make yourself sound knowledgeable.

Are you for real, or do you just deliberately pick topics that you know you can talk shite in order to cause maximum irritation? Do you think this is fine? Why would you design a game originally to just use 1 core, when there are NO single core CPU's on the market even slightly capable of playing this game.

Some games might be designed around 2-4 cores of course, but not a single core. Not on a 'dedicated' PC Game, where there are no console limitations. And if you're telling me that an i7 4790k running at 4.5Ghz is 'too slow'... well, that's insane given it's probably one of the fastest commonly owned CPU's right now.

The only other logical explanation would be the game is running in some sort of debug mode, which is plausible. If this was the case though, tell the testers - don't keep it secret or mask it as a 'bug' - it's illogical. And most things that are illogical are usually not true.

Or are you going to come out with something like 'the game was designed around Skylake, it uses a special "hidden" instruction to make RSI games go faster'?


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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Dec 2015 12:50    Post subject:
So around one million registered users have contributed around 100 million in funding?

Pretty impressive actually (Though there's probably other non-registered contributors too.) though will the game itself live up to the hype?

Will be interesting to see the game in it's final form though it's probably a few years off at least until that happens.
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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Dec 2015 13:11    Post subject:
The whole development of the game itself has been thoroughly entertaining for me these past 3 years. I am convinced it will continue to do so for years to come.
The game in it's current form is great fun even though it is very much alpha and lacks many features that still need to be implemented.
Rest assured with a 100 million under its belt and a few more years development time the game will be glorious. Cool


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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Dec 2015 13:26    Post subject:
Kaltern wrote:
bart5986 wrote:
So either your CPU is completely maxed, or whatever its doing its only able to use one core, something they will hopefully fix.


Quote:
something they will hopefully fix


Quote:
hopefully fix


I read this exact same thing on the RSI forums - either you posted it, or you read it and just copied it to make yourself sound knowledgeable.

Are you for real, or do you just deliberately pick topics that you know you can talk shite in order to cause maximum irritation? Do you think this is fine? Why would you design a game originally to just use 1 core, when there are NO single core CPU's on the market even slightly capable of playing this game.

Some games might be designed around 2-4 cores of course, but not a single core. Not on a 'dedicated' PC Game, where there are no console limitations. And if you're telling me that an i7 4790k running at 4.5Ghz is 'too slow'... well, that's insane given it's probably one of the fastest commonly owned CPU's right now.

The only other logical explanation would be the game is running in some sort of debug mode, which is plausible. If this was the case though, tell the testers - don't keep it secret or mask it as a 'bug' - it's illogical. And most things that are illogical are usually not true.

Or are you going to come out with something like 'the game was designed around Skylake, it uses a special "hidden" instruction to make RSI games go faster'?


Are you serious?

I don't read or post on the RSI forums LOL

Star Citizen's limitations are from CryEngine.

The game already uses multiple cores such as for physics, but not in all aspects of the game, which i'm guessing is the issue
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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Dec 2015 15:48    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
So around one million registered users have contributed around 100 million in funding?

Pretty impressive actually (Though there's probably other non-registered contributors too.) though will the game itself live up to the hype?

Will be interesting to see the game in it's final form though it's probably a few decades off at least until that happens.
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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Dec 2015 17:08    Post subject:
bart5986 wrote:
Kaltern wrote:
bart5986 wrote:
So either your CPU is completely maxed, or whatever its doing its only able to use one core, something they will hopefully fix.


Quote:
something they will hopefully fix


Quote:
hopefully fix


I read this exact same thing on the RSI forums - either you posted it, or you read it and just copied it to make yourself sound knowledgeable.

Are you for real, or do you just deliberately pick topics that you know you can talk shite in order to cause maximum irritation? Do you think this is fine? Why would you design a game originally to just use 1 core, when there are NO single core CPU's on the market even slightly capable of playing this game.

Some games might be designed around 2-4 cores of course, but not a single core. Not on a 'dedicated' PC Game, where there are no console limitations. And if you're telling me that an i7 4790k running at 4.5Ghz is 'too slow'... well, that's insane given it's probably one of the fastest commonly owned CPU's right now.

The only other logical explanation would be the game is running in some sort of debug mode, which is plausible. If this was the case though, tell the testers - don't keep it secret or mask it as a 'bug' - it's illogical. And most things that are illogical are usually not true.

Or are you going to come out with something like 'the game was designed around Skylake, it uses a special "hidden" instruction to make RSI games go faster'?


Are you serious?

I don't read or post on the RSI forums LOL

Star Citizen's limitations are from CryEngine.

The game already uses multiple cores such as for physics, but not in all aspects of the game, which i'm guessing is the issue


CryEngine was a very poor choice for the game, granted, but I can play any Crysis version on my current machine with no real difficulty, lower some settings and I can get 60fps no bother.

Since I posted my previous stuff, I have since read that it might be the underlying network code that is slowing things down (I don't really see WHY that would, but I'm not a network software engineer, and as such I won't presume to know enough to comment), but then the AC side of the game is running quite well. So I still think that the game is either: A) Poorly coded, B) deliberately slowed down, or C) hasa some sort of heavy verbose logging going on somewhere.

'Hopefully Fix' is not something that is much use to anyone, especially 4 years down the line.


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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Dec 2015 18:29    Post subject:
Tried the Alpha briefly, performance sucked ass on a GTX 960, flight was not enjoyable in the slightest as a result but the Aurora feels better than when I tried it when AC was initially released.

Guess I need to revisit this in another year when I upgrade my hardware and development is further in. I still think there's potential here for a good game tho but their scope I feel is...out of hand.
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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Dec 2015 19:39    Post subject:
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Tried the Alpha briefly, performance sucked ass on a GTX 960, flight was not enjoyable in the slightest as a result but the Aurora feels better than when I tried it when AC was initially released.

Guess I need to revisit this in another year when I upgrade my hardware and development is further in. I still think there's potential here for a good game tho but their scope I feel is...out of hand.


If it does not run half decent o a gfx card like that it is pathetic how much these games are tailored to new gfx cards these days.
Should run half decent at least.


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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Dec 2015 02:41    Post subject:
Kaltern wrote:
CryEngine was a very poor choice for the game, granted, but I can play any Crysis version on my current machine with no real difficulty, lower some settings and I can get 60fps no bother.

Since I posted my previous stuff, I have since read that it might be the underlying network code that is slowing things down (I don't really see WHY that would, but I'm not a network software engineer, and as such I won't presume to know enough to comment), but then the AC side of the game is running quite well. So I still think that the game is either: A) Poorly coded, B) deliberately slowed down, or C) hasa some sort of heavy verbose logging going on somewhere.

'Hopefully Fix' is not something that is much use to anyone, especially 4 years down the line.


I imagine a lot of it comes down to CPU limitations. If they actually ever go to DX12 I would say thats a guaranteed fix.

Also you can't exactly say CryEngine was a poor choice, there isn't exactly a list of engines that can do a real space game.

Elite Dangerous made their own engine and its full of issues and limitations.

You also can't take just any engine because they won't support the size of what Star Citizen is, they would have to split it up and put loading screens in like Elite Dangerous.
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Dec 2015 10:31    Post subject:
reb0rn wrote:
Its a space sim game, there is no land, sky, etc, performance should be 3x better then this crap ATM!


Must be the... um... water tesselation that draws power. Yep, that's it! It's a CryEngine game, after all... Laughing


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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Dec 2015 03:41    Post subject:
Game itself fully released in 2028.
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Dec 2015 03:50    Post subject:
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Game itself fully released in 2028.



Considering we are nearly at Elite dangerous levels of completion... I give it 6-12 months before we have a full scale game to play in.
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Dec 2015 04:03    Post subject:
bart5986 wrote:
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Game itself fully released in 2028.



Considering we are nearly at Elite dangerous levels of completion... I give it 6-12 months before we have a full scale game to play in.


Too short for bug fixing, optimization and getting the rest of the content in.
So no, it will take a bit longer...


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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Dec 2015 04:20    Post subject:
Morphineus wrote:
bart5986 wrote:
Stormwolf wrote:
Game itself fully released in 2028.



Considering we are nearly at Elite dangerous levels of completion... I give it 6-12 months before we have a full scale game to play in.


Too short for bug fixing, optimization and getting the rest of the content in.
So no, it will take a bit longer...
What optimization? Laughing


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The one he said they were going to do... He can't have it all in that timeframe! Laughing


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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Dec 2015 22:57    Post subject:
Ok, interesting. A planet of rocks.
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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Dec 2015 00:08    Post subject:
Lets see them try that with a full city.


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I did have a small erection Very Happy
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I did have a small erection Very Happy


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Maybe start a kickstarter to raise that boner LOL


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