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 Posted: Thu, 1st Dec 2005 11:48 Post subject: are .nfo's ever updated? |
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Hi,
New here and just a quick question...
Are the NFO's on here ever updated, or are they just loaded on and that's it?
The reason I ask is that ive just d/l'd the Billy Connolly NFO and it doesnt really have any info on it I can use.. Will info on that particular NFO ever change?
Cheers
Rich
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Dec 2005 12:32 Post subject: |
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no, nfo's are only text files, nothing to update really because each pre comes with it's own nfo, except for dirfixes sometimes.
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Dec 2005 14:56 Post subject: |
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The only edits made are for the removal or serial keys, the NFO's stay as they where produced by the release group.
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Dec 2005 21:51 Post subject: |
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| nouseforaname wrote: | sometimes groups can't be bothered to put any actual details into their nfos ...  |
thats fuckin annoying eh? still, as long as they include a serial and archive size, u dont really need any more info (unless its a movie, then PAL or NTSC specification helps) |
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Dec 2005 22:05 Post subject: |
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yeah, I was talking more about movies. Stuff like # of passes, bitrate, exactly what was ripped out (if it was dvd9-->5) ... that kind of shit is important. Especially if there is more than one release (multiple regions, internals, propers, etc.).
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Dec 2005 22:08 Post subject: |
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| nouseforaname wrote: | | yeah, I was talking more about movies. Stuff like # of passes, bitrate, exactly what was ripped out (if it was dvd9-->5) ... that kind of shit is important. Especially if there is more than one release (multiple regions, internals, propers, etc.). |
I dunno, I dont look to much at the bitrate...although it is important, and region is very imporant...but I dont think Ive ever downloaded a movie that didnt have that info in the nfo. |
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nouseforaname
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Dec 2005 22:12 Post subject: |
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yeah, regions are always labelled .. I'm just talking about picking the best release based on bitrate of main movie is hard when there ends up being like an R3 release, then an R1, then an internal release with more extras included, then a dvd9 release. bitrate and # of passes are important to choose. And not to mention MPTDVD used to try and sneak dvdshrink releases by people ...
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Dec 2005 22:15 Post subject: |
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| nouseforaname wrote: | | yeah, regions are always labelled .. I'm just talking about picking the best release based on bitrate of main movie is hard when there ends up being like an R3 release, then an R1, then an internal release with more extras included, then a dvd9 release. bitrate and # of passes are important to choose. And not to mention MPTDVD used to try and sneak dvdshrink releases by people ... |
Number of passes? Like how many times the infomation is read per min/sec by the cpu/dvd player? |
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Dec 2005 22:19 Post subject: |
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| nouseforaname wrote: | # of CCE passes 
ie how many times the encoder went over the video to allocate the compression better.
more passes = better encode (for CCE, which is the scene standard encoder, you can do 2-9 passes) |
ah gotcha now
Do u know what the standard amount is? Im gunna keep my eye out for that info from now on  |
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Dec 2005 22:32 Post subject: |
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| nouseforaname wrote: | | at least 5 passes seems to be the minimum, although 9 is not uncommon especially on anything over 1 1/2 - 2 hours. The scene standard minimum bitrate on a dvdr is 3000 kbps, although many can be much higher and look a lot better -- it's easy to notice these differences on a good tv. I've brought something I though looked good over to someone's house with a big screen and all of a sudden the video looks like shit |
So the quality decreases on a big screen?
Ive never noticed it...as long as its a dvd source. I usually hook my tv up to my cpu to watch movies, maybe that makes a difference? |
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Dec 2005 22:45 Post subject: |
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| nouseforaname wrote: | | SycoShaman wrote: | | nouseforaname wrote: | | at least 5 passes seems to be the minimum, although 9 is not uncommon especially on anything over 1 1/2 - 2 hours. The scene standard minimum bitrate on a dvdr is 3000 kbps, although many can be much higher and look a lot better -- it's easy to notice these differences on a good tv. I've brought something I though looked good over to someone's house with a big screen and all of a sudden the video looks like shit |
So the quality decreases on a big screen?
Ive never noticed it...as long as its a dvd source. I usually hook my tv up to my cpu to watch movies, maybe that makes a difference? |
It's only because the bigger the screen you watch something on, the easier it is to see it's flaws (pixellation, artifacts, etc). lower bitrate/less passes means more flaws. |
thanks for the info...now im gunna be lookin for this shit...standard is 5 eh? Nice
Thanks Nouse |
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Dec 2005 22:57 Post subject: |
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| SycoShaman wrote: | | thanks for the info...now im gunna be lookin for this shit...standard is 5 eh? Nice :)Thanks Nouse |
np ... actually, here are the scene releasing standards -- minimum is 5 or 6 passes depending on bitrate. Notice the part where is says all these specs must be in the nfo ... but I guess it's not like it's going to get nuked for crappy nfo file
| Quote: | THE 2005 DVDR RELEASING STANDARDS
General:
. Release size must be at 4.3-4.37 Gb unless source is DVD5.
. PAL after NTSC and NTSC after PAL is allowed.
Video:
. Re-encoding:
. CCE version 2.50+ or must be used in all circumstances where transcoding (re-encoding) of the video stream is required. REmpeg and TMPGenc are NOT allowed. New unknown or unreleased encoders are not strictly forbidden, however use at your own risk.
. Automated Programs that perform DVD9>DVD5 rips are FORBIDDEN, e.g. InstanCopy, DVDXCopy, DVDShrink etc.
. Minimum average bitrate allowed is 3000 kbit/s (2800 kbit/s for tv shows). If minimum average bitrate cannot be achieved, a valid explanation is required in the NFO.
. TV-DVDR does not need to be deinterlaced.
. Quality Settings:
. CCE:
. No CBR. Multipass is to be enforced.
. The initial 1st pass that encodes the .vaf file in CCE is NOT considered within the multipass set.
. The number of passes required for a movie is to be determined by the final avg bitrate. Under 4,000k/s 6+ passes required, over 4,000k/s 5 passes are required.
Source:
. Releases of superior/remastered editions of previous released
DVDs are ALLOWED as they improve upon the initial release.
e.g. If a new mastered DVD contains a 5.1 stream compared
to an inferior stream in the previous release, the
release is considered valid.
. Mastered DVDs of: Director's Cut, Criterion, Unrated or any
editions with additional/extended scenes are not considered
dupes over existing mastered DVDs.
. The DVD to be ripped should also be the best available edition
on the market.
Authoring:
. NO ONE CLICK APPS ARE TO BE USED! e.g. InstanCopy, DVDXCopy,
DVDShrink etc. Anything else like Scenarist and Maestro are
acceptable so long as newly reauthored DVDR plays as original does.
. VTS Sectors must always be gotten.
Menus:
. Menus MUST be included. In extreme cases where the retail does
not contain a menu, it must be mentioned in the NFO.
. The menu must be in English and not foreign, unless they
are aimed for non-English endusers.
. Removing useless links within the menu is required. If you
remove something, disable or remove the button.
. If all else is stripped and still can't get a 3000k/s avg
bitrate, then the menu may be reencoded at a minimum of
3000k/s avg.
Extras:
. Extras are an added value but are not needed. Extras are
allowed to be transcoded @ ripper's discretion.
. A minimum of 5 passes for extras is required.
Packaging:
. All releases must either use .IMG or .ISO. Other formats
are NOT allowed.
. Releases must be broken up into rars of 50,000,000 bytes.
. Recovery Record MUST be used.
. Compression method must be store.
. SFVs and NFOs MUST be included.
. NFO must include the following:
. Groups name.
. Title.
. Region, NTSC or PAL.
. Number of Passes and Bitrate used when re-encoding
main movie.
. Number of Passes and Bitrate used when re-encoding
extras.
. Audio streams, and subtitles included.
. What has been stripped, extras, menu, etc.
. IMDB, or similar link.
. Number of archive files.
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Dec 2005 23:04 Post subject: |
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Yeah, nuking cuz of a shitty nfo is kinda dumb...as long as the video and audio are good ya know?
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Dec 2005 23:20 Post subject: |
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i think that the OP was a troll... :/
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| Posted: Sat, 3rd Dec 2005 00:55 Post subject: |
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well, it isnt that hard to update an nfo, it can be auto done very easily. especially with movies:
resolution and bitrate etc are in the header of the moviefile, so one could easily make a prog to read that and write it into an NFOfile. Same for the Imdb Stuff. Give title, read info.
But if you do it manually, you might get nfos like XOR or TV, or DAGGER
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