What is the point of this if Skylake is already 14nm? Intel failed in their delivery, so just delay until ready. Who in their right mind would upgrade to Kaby Lake from Skylake?
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What is the point of this if Skylake is already 14nm? Intel failed in their delivery, so just delay until ready. Who in their right mind would upgrade to Kaby Lake from Skylake?
I would say the point is to squeeze more out of consumers, seems intel is following the trend every company is doing these days.. Trying to mislead consumers with fancy words about things those people have no clue of but think it's the next big thing so they can sell it at full price without investing too much of their own
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Nice, 10% improvement over skylake, sounds like great time for people "upgrade" once again.
Kaby Lake Core i7-7700K is 7-8% faster than the Core i7-6700K. The issue with this is that the 7700K is running 7-8% higher clock rates as well compared to the 6700K.
Anyone with a modern i7 (4xxx-series and upwards I guess) have no need to pay premium for a CPU that is at best a few percent faster in certain circumstances.
Where's the optical CPU's we were promised 15 years ago? Where are the bio-computers?
I think we've hit stalemate. When Zen arrives and IF it proves to have a sensible design that opens up for new development (fast dynamic modular systems) we may see AMD and Intel go at it for a while. If Zen fails we ALL fail and will get stuck with a couple of percent increase each year, often requiring new motherboards, new RAM and while we're at it adding a new expensive GPU, latest in SSD-tech.
I am tired of it and I can't afford that shit anymore. I have enough issues with a borked tube-amp, broken PA-speakers and other stuff.
Looks like Toms Hardware (Linked to above.) broke some NDA and posted their results a bit early.
(Obviously G3D just had to quote the results as well in reporting that, sweet traffic revenue. )
Looks like Toms Hardware (Linked to above.) broke some NDA and posted their results a bit early.
(Obviously G3D just had to quote the results as well in reporting that, sweet traffic revenue. )
Very disappointing results when comparing Kaby and Sky Lake.
If AMDs Zen will be crap (which should get shown in the middle of december at some show), then i will just get a nice and sexy i7 6700k at a low price when Kaby cums out.
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I'm quite excited for the new motherboards, apparently they will support the upcoming Intel 3dXpoint storage devices. It'll be interesting comparing those to NVMe drives, I'm quite hyped for that insane (yet in times of SSDs unnoticable) performance jump.
While Kaby Lake is released early next month another processors series is already luring in its corner, the enthusiast platform Skylake-X and perhaps Kaby Lake-X series.
According to DigiTimes these puppies will get launched in Q3 2017, lining up with gamescom. The CPUs will require you to AGAIN purchase a new motherboard as they will AGAIN use a new socket, LGA2066 . The platform has support for DDR4 memory and reportedly would be called X299.
The platform for all this is called Basin Falls platform and includes new processors and is merely a chipset refresh with a new socket . Socket R4 (LGA2066) as the official code name reads is getting 2,066 pins and provides a home to two new Skylake-X and Kaby Lake-X series.
Skylake-X will include six , eight and ten core CPUs with a TDP around 140 watts and thus follow Broadwell-E . Under the name Kaby Lake-X there are also will be quad-cores for socket 2066, with fewer PCI Express lanes and only two memory channels. Also for Kaby Lake-X Turbo Boost 3.0 is not supported. There will also be a new chipset which includes ten integrated USB 3.0 ports and eight SATA600 ports. It is still unclear whether USB 3.1 will also be part of the chipset. We do know that there are up to 24 PCI Express 3.0 lanes , and a built-in Intel LAN controller are present.
At CES 2017, Intel is expected to unveil processors including Core i7-7700K/7700, Core i5-7600K/7600/7500, Core i3-7320/7300/7100, Pentium G4620/4500/4560 and Celeron G3950/3930 as well as its low-power models including the Core i7-7700T. Intel's Z270 and H270 chipsets will also make their debut at the show.
x299 motherboard with a "2066" socket type.
(Possibly followed by a Kaby Lake X version?)
cause the development has reached its end, that was predictable a few years ago already. you cant push clockspeeds unlimited, the future it effectiveness in multicore usage
There have been cases of delidding reducing temps by 20c, but this is pretty big.
Some people are confused about his testings, originally they believed he had tested with 2 different coolers. They thought that first he tested with an old cooler, then delidded, then added a new cooler, at which point he got the 30c reduction.
For clarification and to avoid confusion, the guy gave more info. He says that first he tested with the old cooler and reached 96c, then he bought a new cooler and still hit 96c, that's when he delidded and went down to around 66c.
I really hope Intel isn't actually being this shitty.
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