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 Posted: Tue, 26th May 2015 02:34 Post subject: Life... |
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Interesting how one day differs from the next.
Went shopping @ my local supermarket this afternoon. Upon walking down the pastas and sauces aisle, this guy slits his throat with a razor blade. Obviously had enough of life or whatever? Young, I'd say about 24.
My wife and I passed several times the entrance to the aisle after, and it was covered up, but you could see the guys head still, not moving, people tending to him etc., he was dead.
At the checkout, we go to pay for our shopping, and there sits a lonely young girl in tears (she works there), distraught, pale, and tells the sad story to a few passers by, of which we overhear.
This guy entered the store, approached the checkout of the girl above, asked her to write down information relating to his next of kin, numbers etc, then proceeded to do what he was gonna do. The girl, realising what was on his mind (I guess) ran after him, only to find it was too late.
Our shopping came to £76.43, no carrier bag charges, as we brought our own.
We left.
So, Society continues at its usual pace, and there are some who need more than a guiding hand, but who gives a fuck? I'm alright Jack!
Awful!
RIP whoever you were.
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| Posted: Tue, 26th May 2015 06:26 Post subject: |
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Dude i just woke up and i noticed that im still in the Dominican Republic... damnit.
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| Posted: Tue, 26th May 2015 07:32 Post subject: |
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Good. Natural selection... But why do it in such a public place. Did he had to be a dick even before death and scare people?
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| Posted: Tue, 26th May 2015 08:02 Post subject: |
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| KillerCrocker wrote: | | Good. Natural selection... But why do it in such a public place. Did he had to be a dick even before death and scare people? |
Did you have to be a dick even before death? Though with that attitude people'd rather remember you as dick after your are dead too. |
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| Posted: Tue, 26th May 2015 10:52 Post subject: |
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KillerCrocker, there's nothing wrong with thinking "jesus, what an idiot, why did he do that..." if you forget that wanting to kill yourself is not a normal thing. You assume that he had a normal thought process, which is a very common problem in psychology: we assume other people think like us. Depression, suicuidal thoughts are a disease.
You don't choose to be depressed, you cure that with meds, just like any other disease.
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| Posted: Tue, 26th May 2015 11:40 Post subject: |
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Trust me, people who have never felt the cold touch of depression have fuck all idea what they're talking about - even people close to me, admit they don't really understand why I would say and do things things I did when I was going through it.
Anyone who kills themselves in such a way as was mentioned in the OP were in serious need of help - and I would bet that many people who knew him just shrugged it off as having a 'bad day'.
Yes it was a bit selfish to do what he did. But consider this; if he had spent time trying to get people to notice his problems, and noone seemed to care or notice, then he really couldn't give a shit - he is going to do something that WILL be noticed, and he did it without the 'I'm gonna kill myself! See, I am, no don't try and stop me, cos I really will do it' etc etc you get from a lot of attention seekers - he just went in and did it.
A lot of humans simply don't appear to have been born with the compassion, or commonly known as the 'give a fuck' gene - and THEY are the people who should be subject to natural selection. IMO.
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| Posted: Tue, 26th May 2015 12:22 Post subject: |
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| nouseforaname wrote: | I tried to pick up weed in the park today and wasn't successful. This just made my day worse  |
You're a gardener? Should have used the proper tools then 
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| Posted: Tue, 26th May 2015 15:09 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 26th May 2015 16:49 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 26th May 2015 17:11 Post subject: |
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| KillerCrocker wrote: | What is so dick about thinking this way?
What the fuck do I care for some dude who decided to kill himself. From what i understand he was not killed but commited suicide. And i did not knew him...
And person who does that is an idiot... Or even if he was not an idiot and dick in life, why should I care at all? Its his own decision so why be so sad all of sudden?
I am cynical and ignorant for things that dont concern me. Hump made me so cynical 
I would feel something id he was at least a relative to one of users here. It would make it more realistic bit this situation? I can only feel sad for shop lady whom this fucking suicide dick decided to ruin for a month or so. Great job. If You want to kill Yourself, good. But dont go for it as public stunt.
Edit: also, death dont mean much to me as I am no longer religious and i think of it as brain shutting down... Why I dont want to die is for my gf. I love her and being with her is the meaning of life. Also i wouldnt want to die because she would suffer... And well, i like to live and play games and work and so on  I am not a monster just because I dont care for suicide guys or I am not religious |
Why are you able to feel empathy for the checkout assistant, who you don't know and is not related to anyone here, but not the person who felt life was so terrible that they had to do something so drastic and kill themselves. 
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| Posted: Tue, 26th May 2015 17:19 Post subject: |
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Because she was possibly hot.
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| bloodian wrote: |
You don't choose to be depressed, you cure that with meds, just like any other disease. |
Well, not really.. SSRI's usually have a lot of side effects and like all drugs they work well in the beginning, after a while you must up the dosage to get the same effect, and when you do that there might be more side effects. Serotonin and melatonin are linked, so usually you get very tired using SSRI's.
I use St. John's Wort and sometimes 5-HTP for mild depression, it's a bit of a gamble if it works or not, usually it works, but with some mild side effects. I doubt these would do much for a heavy depression though.
When i was younger i had Prozac and i also tried 4 or 5 others. Imo, too many side effects with those..
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| Posted: Tue, 26th May 2015 19:41 Post subject: |
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are there many more drugs like those, could you go through all of them to find one without or almost no side effects?
and what are the most common side effects?
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| Posted: Tue, 26th May 2015 20:15 Post subject: |
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| StrEagle wrote: | are there many more drugs like those, could you go through all of them to find one without or almost no side effects?
and what are the most common side effects? |
Yes, to go through a lot of these is a good idea, though very time consuming since it can take months before some side effects shows up..
The most common side effect i would think is tiredness. Personally i also often got very sentimental, a really annoying feeling imo, one of the main reasons i quit prozac.
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| Posted: Tue, 26th May 2015 20:55 Post subject: |
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Sad for every person connected
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| Posted: Wed, 27th May 2015 00:30 Post subject: |
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Yes tiredness is a big factor with some of these meds. I've been on Venlafaxine for years now, and can say that this particular drug has worked for me, although not without side effects as mentioned. You learn to live with the side effects, if its helping the main problem, although, as with any med, YMMV.
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| Posted: Wed, 27th May 2015 00:50 Post subject: |
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I believe that everyone has an innate right to end their own life if they so choose, so long as they do it in a respectful manner and don't endanger anyone else while doing so.
Hell, it beats shriveling up and dying of old age, and it sure as hell beats dying unexpectedly at the hands of another or some cruel twist of fate (be it car accident, murder etc...)
Having said all of that, this guy could have at least purchased the razor, walked out, and done it out back or some such, out of sight of possible children or other people.
Then again, I suppose that when you finally reach the point where you're ready to pull the proverbial trigger, not much else matters.
Fucked up situation, but at least he went out on his own terms.
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| Posted: Wed, 27th May 2015 01:39 Post subject: |
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| nouseforaname wrote: | | I tried to pick up weed in the park today and wasn't successful. This just made my day worse |
Sounds really shady and dangerous |
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| Posted: Wed, 27th May 2015 01:48 Post subject: |
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| vurt wrote: | | bloodian wrote: |
You don't choose to be depressed, you cure that with meds, just like any other disease. |
Well, not really.. SSRI's usually have a lot of side effects and like all drugs they work well in the beginning, after a while you must up the dosage to get the same effect, and when you do that there might be more side effects. Serotonin and melatonin are linked, so usually you get very tired using SSRI's.
I use St. John's Wort and sometimes 5-HTP for mild depression, it's a bit of a gamble if it works or not, usually it works, but with some mild side effects. I doubt these would do much for a heavy depression though.
When i was younger i had Prozac and i also tried 4 or 5 others. Imo, too many side effects with those.. |
Isn't mixing sjw and 5htp dangerous? I thought that increasing serotonin production is better than preventing it from "leaking", when there is in fact no serotonin to go to waste per se
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| Posted: Wed, 27th May 2015 04:38 Post subject: |
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| Sellob wrote: |
Isn't mixing sjw and 5htp dangerous? I thought that increasing serotonin production is better than preventing it from "leaking", when there is in fact no serotonin to go to waste per se |
Increasing / releasing works, but yes it can be dangerous (serotonine syndrome). I've googled this particular combo before, and from what i've read it should be safe. Though i would not recommend a large dose, just in case.
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| Posted: Wed, 27th May 2015 12:23 Post subject: |
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| scaramonga wrote: | | Yes tiredness is a big factor with some of these meds. I've been on Venlafaxine for years now, and can say that this particular drug has worked for me, although not without side effects as mentioned. You learn to live with the side effects, if its helping the main problem, although, as with any med, YMMV. |
This just sucks. Right now I'm taking antihistamines for hayfever and they make me tired all the time. And the allergy is not really gone, just barely controlled most of the time. It really annoys me even though it's just for a few weeks/couple of months, I can't imagine living with side effects...
Suicide on the other hand is easy to understand if it's done by impulse, I guess we all had those moments where everything seems lost... but it seems like the guy in this topic had it planned, and to me that's hard to figure out because no matter how shitty my life is at some point, after some time at least one little good thing always happens and I always find a glimpse of hope to go on.
edit: maybe this makes me sound like I know nothing about depression... well, that ain't true. I just realised at an early age that this life is all we got and that things change.
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| Posted: Wed, 27th May 2015 12:51 Post subject: |
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That glimpse of hope becomes harder and harder to find believe me.
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| Posted: Wed, 27th May 2015 18:52 Post subject: |
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| Kaltern wrote: | | That glimpse of hope becomes harder and harder to find believe me. |
Pretty much this. I'm starting to wonder if it is worth it to try 'medicine' against the depression, even when I'm feeling fine. Just something to serve as a buffer until the dark thoughts osciliate back to me.
I picked up weightlifting a year ago so that I at least remain somewhat active, having suffered from employment for almost three years now. A small glimpse of hope appeared when I recieved a job offer, although as a trainee. For 5 months I slaved at the place, proving myself, arriving on time all the time and pulling a lot of product onto the shelves, but alas, that was not enough. I didn't wasn't happy and hyper enough to work there, they said.
Every place that I apply to say that my worklife experience isn't sufficient enough, even if it is to land a job as simple as a janitors. Luckily the social services are there, but at the same time I feel my self-esteem withering away as I am not given a chance to contribute to society.
Pretty simple problems, but I had to vent.
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