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xtralong




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Apr 2015 23:01    Post subject:
SSD Kingston V300 240GB SATA III for 99€

or

SSD Crucial BX100 250GB for 109€

(first ssd ever)


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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Apr 2015 23:46    Post subject:
easy choice, Crucial BX100 without a doubt. Kingston V300 series is really old now for a SSD, 2 years if I'm not mistaken.
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xtralong




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Apr 2015 23:49    Post subject:
thx!

ordered from amazon.es = 95€ Wink

edit. found this one Samsung 840 Evo 250 fro 105€!!


do i cancel the crucial for this one?


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thudo




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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Apr 2015 04:04    Post subject:
Samsung 850 Pro 256GB @ $220 CDN still leads the charts as the fastest SSD but man these new PCI-E "bootable" SSDs make the fastest SATA3-held SSDs look like poo. Sad Price is coming down for them though so someday I could see booting Windows10 in negative time (time warp speed!). Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Apr 2015 05:33    Post subject:
xtralong wrote:
thx!

ordered from amazon.es = 95€ Wink

edit. found this one Samsung 840 Evo 250 fro 105€!!


do i cancel the crucial for this one?


Yes CANCEL!!

Windows will load .00016ms quicker with the EVO Wink

Nah, EVO's have probs ATM, stick with what you ordered.
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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Apr 2015 08:10    Post subject:
no, samsung 840 EVO has slow down issue. avoid like plague.
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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Apr 2015 12:05    Post subject:
Yeah, where the fuck is that fix samsung?! Mad
I ran the old tool again and the disk performance recovered, but in a few months it will drop again...


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i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Apr 2015 12:42    Post subject:
no fix yet. i've seen some ppl contact Samsung and support said forget about the fix, while other ppl got response that fix is coming at some time. so it's uncertain at this point.

meanwhile if your 840 EVO is really slow you can use DiskFresh to refresh data on it.
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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Apr 2015 12:49    Post subject:
So I got a new disk from the supplier (not samsung), had it now for some time and applied the previous 'fix'.
I tried copying one of the older files to a new place on the drive and it doesn't go over 90MB/s, copied the file I just created a copy of and now it suddenly jumps up to 300+MB/s.
Going to contact the supplier again to see if I can get my money back so that I can either buy a PRO or a different brand. Surprised


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xtralong




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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Apr 2015 13:32    Post subject:
Thank you guys!! Smile


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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Apr 2015 17:09    Post subject:
Why the fuck can't Samsung fix that shit with a firmware update? I'm too tired at the moment to properly do the research to understand the problem.
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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Apr 2015 18:32    Post subject:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
Why the fuck can't Samsung fix that shit with a firmware update? I'm too tired at the moment to properly do the research to understand the problem.


Because they want you to go out and buy the 850 EVO.
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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Apr 2015 22:29    Post subject:
yes, that's brilliant, you got it all figured out. I and everyone else who owns the affected 840 EVO drive only thinks about going out and buying the 850 EVO. lol wut
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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Apr 2015 22:35    Post subject:
I could see a man like you do that. Cool Face


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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Apr 2015 22:37    Post subject:
no, you couldn't.
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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Apr 2015 23:04    Post subject:
rgb#000 wrote:
yes, that's brilliant, you got it all figured out.


I know. My brilliance astounds even me sometimes, jealous are we?

Morphineus wrote:
I could see a man like you do that. Cool Face


Naw, they're not made by nVidia Troll Dad
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Hfric




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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Apr 2015 23:10    Post subject:
so it is a defragmentation problem ? and after few months you have to run a program to defragment it to gain speed ... sounds like a typical mechanical HDD thing ... but with a SSD twist


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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Apr 2015 23:12    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Morphineus wrote:
I could see a man like you do that. Cool Face


Naw, they're not made by nVidia Troll Dad
But intel makes some of them so


boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Apr 2015 23:13    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
Morphineus wrote:
I could see a man like you do that. Cool Face


Naw, they're not made by nVidia Troll Dad
But intel makes some of them so


Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Apr 2015 23:16    Post subject:
Hfric wrote:
so it is a defragmentation problem ? and after few months you have to run a program to defragment it to gain speed ... sounds like a typical mechanical HDD thing ... but with a SSD twist

nah, it's nothing like HDD. for people who asked and are interested in slow down issue here is a very good article about it.
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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Apr 2015 14:55    Post subject:
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/intel-750-nvme-1-2-tb-pcie-ssd-review,2.html

Review of the Intel 750 SSD.
(Pretty pricy but speeds seem to be good though it is using PCI-E.)
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thudo




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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Apr 2015 20:37    Post subject:
Think my next super-build will have a bootable PCI-E SSD as SATA4 is nowhere and 3 is soooo 2008-ish Embarassed . Windows 10 demands to load in the past! Mr. Green


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DV2




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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Apr 2015 01:12    Post subject:
I don't get something

I've got GTA V in an HDD (off from the SSD ofcourse) but whenever i try to extract the files to the E: the game makes temporal files IN THE SSD !!!!!...And that makes it impossible to extract the game at all

What can i do??

EDIT: neeevermind, it seems the WinRAR temp folder was designed for the SSD,so i changed it and tadaaaaa...


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zmed




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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Apr 2015 01:50    Post subject:
Here's the deal: I cannot get an internal SSD, but I see there are external ones. I was wondering if these are actually any good for gaming. My rig have a USB 3.0 port, but only one. If I get a 250GB one from somewhere, can I expect some decent boost from it, or the fact that it's going through a USB is a serious bottleneck for it?

If it's worth it, which one would you fellas suggest I get? 100-250GB is perfectly enough, and as long as it's reliable, I don't need some special brand stuff.
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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Apr 2015 09:34    Post subject:
USB3 is a big bottleneck for SSDs, more so than SATA2 even.
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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Apr 2015 10:06    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
Yeah, where the fuck is that fix samsung?! Mad
I ran the old tool again and the disk performance recovered, but in a few months it will drop again...


They dont care cause their new line is running
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xtralong




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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Apr 2015 22:44    Post subject:
benchmark for my Corsair BX100 256gb:




guess its ok.


edit. 8.1 Pro


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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Apr 2015 18:58    Post subject:
xtralong wrote:
benchmark for my Corsair BX100 256gb:




guess its ok.


edit. 8.1 Pro


It says crucial and not Corsair Laughing
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xtralong




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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Apr 2015 19:17    Post subject:
same thing! i was thinking in the ram manufacturer! Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Apr 2015 15:24    Post subject:
Samsung SSD Magician 4.6 and 840 EVO EXT0DB6Q Firmware is out.

hopefully this time they really fixed it for good. before and after benchmarks here:
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Storage/Samsung-Magician-46-and-840-EVO-EXT0DB6Q-Firmware-Review-Finally-Fixed/After-and-Opt

download link (mirror because samsung site has some stupid download limit per day for the next few days)
http://www.techspot.com/downloads/5345-samsung-ssd-magician.html
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