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| Posted: Fri, 27th Mar 2015 19:13 Post subject: |
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I have really mixed feeling about the game.
Mainly, combat is clunky, and not consistent. Since I always play every game on hardest difficulty, I have no problem trying an encounter many times, yet since I rolled a controller cipher, the game was really uneven in the beginning. Encounters ended very fast, either me overpowering them, or them overpowering me, and it ends in seconds. Some fights you have to micro every frame, other fights autoattack takes care.
And whilst I appreciate having to switch your loadouts often to match the incoming damage type, it gets really tiresome after a while.
And the interface is godawful. Godawful bad. So bad, it should be burned to the ground.
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Like it, or not, this is a budget game. I bought it, I support Obsidian, they make unpolished diamonds, but this is garage-level effort even by their standards.
My final opinion on the game will rest on the lore, characters and story.
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Mar 2015 19:23 Post subject: |
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Finally! I killed him with my 3 men group. I placed a fireball trap in the throne room and then ran away(my tank was the last one so he took some initial hits and saved my weak mage and cipher from death) to fight them in a corridor. Mage was casting slicken (OP!) and some other spells, wariror was on steroids and tanking, cipher was charming the king and dealing damage.
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Mar 2015 19:30 Post subject: |
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I agree it feels budgety, especially compared to Original Sin. I think I just hate Unity, I had the same feeling while playing Wasteland. I assume developing for it is easy and/or cost effective, because technically I can;t find anything good.
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Mar 2015 19:31 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | | I agree it feels budgety, especially compared to Original Sin. |
Yeah.. even compared to wasteland.. Where did 4 millions go? On whores and blackjack? 
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Mar 2015 19:32 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Mar 2015 19:35 Post subject: |
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Unity is so huge crap, I can not beleive ppl use it, it can even run 2D game on new system like it should
btw which Unity here is used 4 or 5th version?
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Mar 2015 19:40 Post subject: |
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@reb0rn
Unity 4
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Mar 2015 19:53 Post subject: |
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| reb0rn wrote: | Unity is so huge crap, I can not beleive ppl use it, it can even run 2D game on new system like it should
btw which Unity here is used 4 or 5th version? |
Ori and the Blind Forest is a Unity game and it's wonderful+runs great.
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Mar 2015 19:57 Post subject: |
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Store interface is practically unusable after I have sold a shitload of items..
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Mar 2015 20:18 Post subject: |
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Is there a way to lock the camera so that when you're moving around, the camera follows the group instead of manually scrolling the screen with the mouse? There is an option to turn edge-scrolling off, but it's kind of useless if you can't lock the camera. Also, camera movement is done with arrow keys, not WASD which is kind of weird. I had no problems with controls in Wasteland 2 or Divinity: Original Sin, but this feels really bad.
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Mar 2015 20:28 Post subject: |
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In these games, the absolute worst thing is leveling. You're absolutely taken aback when you see all the choices you have and that single fucking point available!
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Mar 2015 20:31 Post subject: |
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You can change keys under controls in the menu.
So far, the only part of the interface I have a problem with is selling/buying in stores. It's really clunky and needlessly complicated. Otherwise, the game actually feels pretty polished to me - much more than WL2 did, for example.
I'm loving the shit out of the game so far.
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Mar 2015 20:35 Post subject: |
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It's fun so far. Still, feels little budget at times. Don't like the default controls. Not a big fan of the combat - I prefer turn based much more than the RTwP. I like the style and the art and the feel of the older RPGs. But I'm glad I didn't pay $45 for it though. I'll wait until the price drops down to backer levels and I'll buy it then.
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Mar 2015 20:36 Post subject: |
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@Meseder
Imagine a polished POE on DOS engine..  DOS had so many settings and useful options and it's interface was so good...
PS I'm watching old POE videos and oh boy.. they did downgrade the game a lot graphics\animation wise I guess it ran like shit lol
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Mar 2015 20:51 Post subject: |
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@PredOborG
unity 
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Mar 2015 20:55 Post subject: |
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Unity is godawful shit engine, I stay away from all games made in Unity, and truly hope Unity dies a fast but very painful death. But this is an exception, because Obsidian, but right now, I'm not sure I'll be finishing the game at all. Depends on how much I can take the shit they call an interface in this game.
I'm all for tactical games, I love them. I love DnD, played NWN and 2 to death.
But games evolve, and there is NO reason for a game in 2015 to be so pointlessly clunky, and have interfaces like this game has, which only increases your time spent in game on useless shit.
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Mar 2015 21:02 Post subject: |
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| Radicalus wrote: | Unity is godawful shit engine, I stay away from all games made in Unity, and truly hope Unity dies a fast but very painful death. But this is an exception, because Obsidian, but right now, I'm not sure I'll be finishing the game at all. Depends on how much I can take the shit they call an interface in this game.
I'm all for tactical games, I love them. I love DnD, played NWN and 2 to death.
But games evolve, and there is NO reason for a game in 2015 to be so pointlessly clunky, and have interfaces like this game has, which only increases your time spent in game on useless shit. |
Aside from the inventory and store windows, I don't really have any problem with the UI. Graphics wise I think the 2d art is amazing, character models I could take or leave.
Someone on RPGCodex is making an IE UI mod to restore the BG1 and 2 UI, maybe that'll improve things. |
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JackQ
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Mar 2015 21:03 Post subject: |
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Guys be patience a bit,it is still the first "most" similar to the original we are having.. The more succses the serires will be I am sure we will see some graphics improvment or even whole new engine for next games
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Your personal opinions != the rest of the forum
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Mar 2015 21:06 Post subject: |
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| JackQ wrote: | | Guys be patience a bit,it is still the first "most" similar to the original we are having.. The more succses the serires will be I am sure we will see some graphics improvment or eveny whole new engine for next games |
Yeah flaws aside, I'm having a lot of fun with this. Closest thing to BG3 we'll get in the immediate future. |
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Mar 2015 21:18 Post subject: |
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Jesus, some of you guys are what we call in Dutch "azijnpissers" ... you'd think it was the worst game in history reading some of these comments ...
Personally, I'll dip my toes into the water and play a little to get a feel but hold off playing until they've patched and balanced the game a bit more.
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HubU
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Mar 2015 21:25 Post subject: |
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They should have stuck to D&D...
It feels more like Titan Quest than BG, and I must say I'm disappointed. The game is there but I prefer playing Hotline Miami.
Nothing is clear and manageable, the UI is the fucking worse, and unity gives a cheap feel to everything.
Feels like some 3rd party cheap dungeon crawler. *Sigh* I'll guess I'll be over fucking 40 by the time some true BGII successor comes up.
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Mar 2015 21:36 Post subject: |
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| red_avatar wrote: | Jesus, some of you guys are what we call in Dutch "azijnpissers" ... you'd think it was the worst game in history reading some of these comments ...
Personally, I'll dip my toes into the water and play a little to get a feel but hold off playing until they've patched and balanced the game a bit more. |
Saying the inventory and shop system is retarded does not mean the game is shit. It just means the inventory and shop screen is shit. I for one can't believe this UI got out of beta.
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Mar 2015 21:51 Post subject: |
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This game has so many flaws that it is more painful than it is enjoyable yet every fanboy will still will run around in circles yelling that this is the best game in last decade... , if this wasnt old school rpg people wouldnt even iso demo this
Horrible interface, random difficulty levels, getting obliterated by random pack of boars in middle of the map is fun, controls that are as bad as interface combined with pathfinding and zero AI in companions make combat biggest mess ever
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Mar 2015 21:54 Post subject: |
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Coming from you it sounds legit.
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Mar 2015 21:58 Post subject: |
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I don't really get the hate outside of the UI. The writing/story seems everything expected from Obsidian so far, the 2d art is nice and the combat system generally seems fine.
The one controversial issue I know of is the engagement system, Anthony Davis is currently arguing it with a few people on RPG Codex, and it seems to be a pretty divisive issue. People are fairly 50/50 over whether the engagement system works.
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HubU
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Mar 2015 22:00 Post subject: |
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Should have been advertised as ActionRPG not CRPG.
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Mar 2015 22:02 Post subject: |
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| HubU wrote: | | Should have been advertised as ActionRPG not CRPG. |
What exactly is your definition of an ARPG? |
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