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 Posted: Wed, 4th Feb 2015 18:07 Post subject: 100 Mbit/s requirements |
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Men, what are the hardware requirements for 100 Mbit/s connection? what router / card do I have to buy to be able to use that connection?
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Feb 2015 18:13 Post subject: |
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doesnt ur isp have that info ready for you?
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Feb 2015 18:34 Post subject: |
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not really, i think they are bullshitting me, supposedly Im paying for 100/40 but all I can get is around 50/10 on the new 300mb router with net card intergrated on p8p67 mobo (which isnt THAT old i think)
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dr-nix
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Feb 2015 18:36 Post subject: |
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| ramalan wrote: | | Men, what are the hardware requirements for 100 Mbit/s connection? what router / card do I have to buy to be able to use that connection? |
To start off with, i recommend that you use a wired network connection. With that said i don't have any specific router/network card recommendation as such but just make sure your network card can do gbit (unless you've got an ancient pc your built in nic will work fine). Also make sure you have a router with gbit ports.
Also don't get the cheapest router you can find. It's worth the money to get a good router from the start. If not you'll just have to replace it anyway.
Edit: oh your using wireless?.. hmm that's not so awesome. Try upgrading to AC if you must use wireless.
Or try getting a better wireless router. The cheaper routers suck when it comes to wireless speeds and reliability (atleast in my experience). But if you are buying a new one today you might as well get an ac-router while you're at it.
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Feb 2015 18:46 Post subject: |
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I have 100Mbit myself and a very old D-Link router i had, which only had 100Mbit LAN ports, gave me nearly full speed all the time.
Like dr-nix wrote, get a good router (TP-Link are cheap and good), and not some noname shit.
Regarding your bad speed: Did you speedtest directly after your modem? If the speed is bad there too, tell that fault to your ISP.
And at least here in Germany the ISP for cable internet clearly state "up to 100Mbit". So it's not guaranteed to have it all the time
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Feb 2015 18:53 Post subject: |
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I have wired connection to my main pc, router is netgear WNR3500L V2:
IEEE 802.11b (11 Mbps)
IEEE 802.11g (54 Mbps)
IEEE 802.11n (300 Mbps)
1 gigabit ethernet port, Wireless-N t tech (whatever that is)
mobo net card is: Intel(R) 82579V Gigabit Network Connection
I think i`m more than capable of achieving full 100/40 on WIRED connection, guess I have to exchange few words with my ISP fuckers
Does duplex setting on a net card have anything to do with internet (not lan) speed?
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couleur
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Feb 2015 18:58 Post subject: |
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You never get the full speed out of that wireless connection. AC is the way to go if you want to get 100mbit and even then its not guaranteed. AC doesnt really work that good over longer distances.
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Feb 2015 19:00 Post subject: |
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i doubt you have 100 Mb guaranteed. you have up to 100Mb.
conect the wire direct to compuer, eliminate router from test.
any shit nic/computer can provide you 100 Mb.
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Feb 2015 19:18 Post subject: |
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well, you repeatable mention router and pc, so i asumed that you are wired to router, routed wired to isp.
make a test early in the morning (bandwidth should be free) with you pc wired directly to isp, without any router and see what you get.
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Feb 2015 19:26 Post subject: |
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No problem.
I tested it repeatedly wired cable-router-pc and cable directly to the pc, same results.
Tried to change my card options to 1gb duplex but it fails to connect to the internet after doing that, when I run test it outputs this:
Connection test passed.
Test details
This connection obtained an IP address
from a DHCP server.
Ping Gateway <MYIP>: Passed
Link speed: 100Mbps. The link partner
is not capable of higher speeds.
could it be the chokepoint or it doesnt matter at all?
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Feb 2015 20:06 Post subject: |
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as long is conecting to 100Mb, is not a chocke point. chocke point may be like this. (no ideea how actually your isp works).
you are conected to a switch, in a 100 Mb port. outgoing of that switch is conected to a fiber equipment capable of higher speeds. problem is that switch outgoing is also at 100 Mb speed, so if there are other clients connected, you will share that 100Mb. thats why i said to try to test it in the morning, maybe people are sleeping and see if you can reach full speed potential. or if the outgoing is 1gb, but are 16/32 clients conected, again you are under the 100Mb speed if all people download stuff.
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Feb 2015 20:29 Post subject: |
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100Mbit
1. get a gigabit router (I use TP-Link)
2. if you're gonna play over it, put a UDP/FTP cable, do not use wireless
3. disable the onboard lan card - it can rarely reach 100mbit in my experience (mine was only able to do ~8.5MB/s)
4. get a PCIx1 lan card, I use INTEL Gigabit CT Ethernet, 10/100/1000Base-T
you will be rocking 100/100MBit up/down solid
if you have that lan card, the router is optional, I use it just to wi/fi my phone
edit: usually ISP's will only give you 100MBit connection
they use switches with 2 GBit ports and several MBit ones
clients are connected on the 100MBit ones, while the switches are connected as a highway on the GBit ones up to the Fiber modem
that way no client can swallow the whole connection to himself, and generally they will achieve 100MBit speeds
edit2: duplex means the connection can go 100up/100down (full) or 100 up+down (half)
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Feb 2015 21:11 Post subject: |
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The approach streagle has is the same I do with 100mbit lines.
If I'm maxed out I get something about 13,6MB here (yup slightly over 100mbit, guess they added some reserve  )
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Feb 2015 21:20 Post subject: |
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Thanks for explanation guys, I guess they are fucking with net speed if I cant even reach the 70-80% of the bandwith while directly connecting to the pc with ISP cable.
btw I have 2 net cards:
on board Intel(R) 82579V Gigabit Network Connection
old PCI card - Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet
Guess the on board Intel is better, that Realtek one is ancient cheap piece of hardware
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Feb 2015 21:33 Post subject: |
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Give mobo specs. I had that chip before and I could reac 100mbit easily via cable.
ALso, stuff someting up your ISPs arse just for giggles (even if nothing changes).
Secondly, check your cabling.
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Feb 2015 22:16 Post subject: |
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I'm using an onboard Intel NIC and it's easily surpassing 100Mbit, so unless you have a really shitty motherboard I don't see the need to use a dedicated NIC.
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Feb 2015 22:24 Post subject: |
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I have asus p8p67, rev3 pro or something. Nothing mind blowing but it should be good enough, easily. ISP is just fucking with me with those bullshit speeds, gotta deal with them.
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Feb 2015 22:40 Post subject: |
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By the way, when you're using speedtest.net, are you then pointing to the node closest to you (for example of you live in Berlin is the node somewhere close to that?).
And up to 100Mbit is also an ace term as here it could mean that you're paying for a 10Mbit line but because the 'node' or server was far away you'd be lucky to get 2Mbit (this has drastically changed here in Sweden but I thought I'd just mention it).
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Feb 2015 22:48 Post subject: |
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Here 100MBit means you will hit 100MBit in inter-country speeds. International - how much you manage to get.
| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Feb 2015 22:59 Post subject: |
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@StrEagle
If it's worded 'up to' then it could mean you can theoretically get that to those speeds, which was a nasty loophole ISP's were using some time back to sell you 10Mbit but your actual speed could be much lower depending on how far away you were from the server (this is coaxial between server and your premises).
Anywho, no idea where Ramalan is from but he should definetly check it out if they even use that 'up to' bullshit.
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| Posted: Thu, 5th Feb 2015 04:35 Post subject: |
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| ramalan wrote: | I have wired connection to my main pc, router is netgear WNR3500L V2:
IEEE 802.11b (11 Mbps)
IEEE 802.11g (54 Mbps)
IEEE 802.11n (300 Mbps)
1 gigabit ethernet port, Wireless-N t tech (whatever that is)
mobo net card is: Intel(R) 82579V Gigabit Network Connection
I think i`m more than capable of achieving full 100/40 on WIRED connection, guess I have to exchange few words with my ISP fuckers
Does duplex setting on a net card have anything to do with internet (not lan) speed? |
How do you measure your speed? Using OOKLA Speedtest isn't reliable unless you have a nearby Speedtest server with full speed access.
Get a network speed monitor and set a bunch of big-file downloads going simultaneously and see if you max out. Usenet is another place to test your max (Astraweb, Giganews)
I have a Netgear WNR3500 v2 router but run my PC wired. I've replaced the firmware with DDWRT (for my router), overclocked the internal BCM-CPU to 500MHz (not necessary though, I maxed out no matter what).
And as prefetian wrote, if it says "Up to..." they do not guarantee 100Mbps, that's just the absolute maximum and you share the bandwidth with other customers.
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| Posted: Thu, 5th Feb 2015 15:25 Post subject: |
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http://routerboard.com/RB951Ui-2HnD
if you want highly customizable, stable, fast router with superior MikroTik RouterOS.
this router might be a bit daunting at first especially for noobs who never had a proper router before, but after you spend a few hours setting it up, what you get in return is worth it tenfold.
you can see all the features here
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:TOC
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| Posted: Thu, 5th Feb 2015 16:44 Post subject: |
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personally i would buy RB951G-2HnD. but are to expensive for my taste for a home user.
i put my rpi behind my normal router, and i do my fancy things trough it.
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| Posted: Thu, 5th Feb 2015 18:20 Post subject: |
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well my 400MHz router can handle 98MBit.
Old WRT54G could pass on only 80ish.
Wired connection ofc.
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