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Morphineus
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Dec 2014 15:14 Post subject: |
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An explosive situation 
I'd love to play it, but knowing the two of us... we'd end up bitching
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Dec 2014 16:28 Post subject: |
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| Tungsten wrote: | | i see a lot of people using this on laptops that aren't necessarily able to render at 60fps. i thought that was a requirement? |
noone actually answered me seriouely...
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Dec 2014 16:31 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Dec 2014 17:25 Post subject: |
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framerate doesn't really matter with dk1 that much, but if you drop below 75fps on dk2 it physically uncomfortable
you can run some basic games on a laptop, if you can reach that performance level
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Dec 2014 22:13 Post subject: |
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After owning both I think that dk1 was much better device all in all. Easier to use, works just as Asa second display. Easier to drive and so on.
besides. I really disliked the dot matrix on dk2. Much more freer the better fill of square pixels on dk1. Tho, blacks were fantastic on dk2.
I admit that I feel bad for selling dk1 and ok with selling dk2.
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Dec 2014 22:27 Post subject: |
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Man people suck in this game so much. It's all about communicating as much information as fast as you can and narrowing the situation down to the known cases.
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Dec 2014 22:58 Post subject: |
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Yea, DK1 SDK was WAY superior
DK2 added a shitload of complexity to the thing
developing is harder
using is more work
fiddling with drivers and shit
still, it's necessary
technically it's superior
screen is higher res
low persistence is awesome when it works
screendoor is not as prominent (but I still installed a diffuser)
but it's a huge step down from ease of use and the opposite direction from a consumer usable product
SDK updates have been reeeeally slow too
i honesty would have expected async timewarp by now
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| Posted: Mon, 8th Dec 2014 18:41 Post subject: |
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Samsung GearVR is now out for sale.
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/wearable-tech/SM-R320NPWSXAR
https://www.oculus.com/blog/gear-vr-innovator-edition-now-available/
Naturally Note 4 required.
I got to play with one a while ago and it was pretty much what I expected.
It's essentially a refined mobile version of what the DK1 tech was.
Rock solid 3 degree-of-freedom tracking (=rotation only).
Android mobile hardware naturally renders only simplistic scenes.
Black smear is still there just like in DK2 (could possibly be fixed with an update).
Control is terrible with the side of the head touchpad.. just unusable.
The separate samsung controller is too small to be comfortable and feels a bit awkward in your hand.
The screen runs at 60hz low persistence in contrast to DK2's 75hz.
Because of this, in some instances there's noticeable flicker, especially in very bright scenes, whereas I can't ever see any flicker with DK2.
The 1440p screen is pretty great - clearly superior to 1080p of the DK2, but the screendoor is still very visible.
It's also not using the screen as efficiently as DK2, but has a much better optical sweet spot, not having any out-of-focus issues DK1 and DK2 have.
It's a lot more comfortable to wear than either of the devkits.
My gigantic nose actually fits under it.
I can't see out through the nose hole now either.
The lens are also not uncomfortably protruding like in the devkits.
As a result the FOV is slightly smaller, but still immersive.
For some reason the distortion was all wrong in all the 4 devices and experiences I tried, but I feel this is probably an issue of using an outdated SDK. There's no way they would not notice that, with how important it is.
It's a small technical miracle that it works as well as it does.
It shows that Carmack spent a year hacking at this to optimize it.
The latency is lower than the windows version due to kernel and driver access.
And they've added asynchronous timewarp, which means headtracking still works even if you drop frames.
Oculus calls it framerate insurance.. normally dropping a single frame in DK2 feels really awful - the world jerks back like being hit in the head.
With async timewarp, it just looks like the world is running at a lower framerate, but you can still look around fine.
Note though that it doesn't have any positional tracking - so you WILL get nauseous after playing a while.
Luckily, use duration is limited by battery life and overheating.
Sixense Stem does support android and GearVR though, and they have demoed their jedi training demo on GearVR at events.
Personally I don't see much potential for mobile VR, but hey, it exists. 
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| Posted: Mon, 8th Dec 2014 19:19 Post subject: |
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Yea, it's waaaaaaaaay overpriced.
There isn't enough hardware to justify it.
It's just a plastic case with touchpad and the Oculus tracker.
Should be under $100.
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| Posted: Mon, 8th Dec 2014 19:32 Post subject: |
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This is exactly what I fear as well.
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| Posted: Mon, 8th Dec 2014 19:41 Post subject: |
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Naw, I don't see that happening with Oculus/Facebook.
They know the tech and industry isn't ready yet.
No gaming company is going to put money on a project for a product nobody can afford.
They believe they need to grow the infrastructure first, and it's the right approach. (stated consistently in interviews)
They're just exchanging favors with Samsung to get access to their screen tech, while Samsung sells their outdated scraps overpriced.
*checks Samsumg site*
Holy shit, you actually have to buy the shitty samsung controller separately, at $75.99. (with only $30 off if bundled)
It's funny since it actually has more hardware in it than gearvr does, but it should be bundled in by default.
The temple pad controller is really awkward.
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| Posted: Mon, 8th Dec 2014 19:59 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 8th Dec 2014 20:13 Post subject: |
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The set looks nice actually.
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Dec 2014 03:11 Post subject: |
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Oculus tracker and Oculus software.
They licence out their tech and samsung is the first.
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Kaltern
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Dec 2014 04:06 Post subject: |
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Thus piece of crap have its own sensors, have a touch panel on the side and is actually finished product.... and is sold by one of worst companies.... samsung
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Dec 2014 06:42 Post subject: |
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Worst companies!?!??!!?!
They make GREAT hardware, especially screens.....fucking love Samsung.
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Dec 2014 06:53 Post subject: |
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| KillerCrocker wrote: | | Thus piece of crap have its own sensors, have a touch panel on the side and is actually finished product.... and is sold by one of worst companies.... samsung |
You spelled fazebook wrong....
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Dec 2014 07:13 Post subject: |
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| jackasshole wrote: | Worst companies!?!??!!?!
They make GREAT hardware, especially screens.....fucking love Samsung. |
Samsung is really against consumer lately.... They have some rgeat hardware but their ignorance is just so annoying.
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Dec 2014 10:05 Post subject: |
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Sensor hardware in it is Oculus made.
Samsung is a really terrible and corrupt company if you ask any South Korean.
But they do tend to make decent hardware usually.
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Dec 2014 10:28 Post subject: |
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Kaltern
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Dec 2014 11:00 Post subject: |
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$250 for this piece of crap just means we can expect $650 for the Rift.
