Are these temps what you'd expect? (4770k + 212 CM)
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russ80




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PostPosted: Tue, 27th May 2014 06:07    Post subject: Are these temps what you'd expect? (4770k + 212 CM)
So finished assembling my pc last night with the new 4770k and cooler master 212. Tried a bit of W_D this morning to see how high the temps would go and saw like 70 max on all cores after half an hour.

Mind you, i haven't OC'd yet so wondering if this is what i should be getting. And if i do OC how far do you think i should push those temps?

I haven't run prime95 or anything btw.

My gpu also seems to cool off slower when exiting a game (but might be related to the new driver as well? seen some making it run hotter than usual).

Edit: hm doesn't seem to go above 65 right now. Maybe the paste was getting melted? Very Happy (typo)


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PostPosted: Tue, 27th May 2014 06:41    Post subject:
Yes its normal, its haswell and not exactly the top of the line cooler. And yes the Nvidia magic drivers will make CPU also run hotter.
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PostPosted: Tue, 27th May 2014 06:46    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
Yes its normal, its haswell and not exactly the top of the line cooler


Cool, thanks.

Breezer_ wrote:
And yes the Nvidia magic drivers will make CPU also run hotter.


Huh?

Maybe you misunderstood me. I meant maybe my gpu is running hotter due to different airflow in my case now with that cpu cooler, or maybe it's just the new NVIDIA beta drivers.
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PostPosted: Tue, 27th May 2014 06:53    Post subject:
4th Gen (Haswell) high-end CPU's are notoriously hot due to Intel fudging up the TIM-bond between silicon and lid making it difficult to cool no matter what since the CPU silicon doesn't have good contact with the lid (hence the reason many many overclockers delidding their CPU's, reapplying TIM and either put a cooler straight on the silicon (ultimate heat transfer but also ultimate risk of crushing/killing CPU) or reattach the lid (second best solution). I've seen the horrible results from some i7 4770K's with cracks, crushed etc. either due to heatsink-pressure on the CPU being too high or because the silicon expands from the heat and crushes itself.

Apparently the new upcoming Haswell-E K-series have fixed this issue.

A tip would be to get a Corsair H100i (watercooler) or similar. I don't know how the 212 Evo compares to high-end closed-loop watercoolers with good static pressure fans though. But as I said before, a lot of CPU-heat won't reach the cooling lid and thus you're cooling the lid a lot but not so much the CPU (without delidding and fixing the TIM-issue).


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russ80




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PostPosted: Tue, 27th May 2014 09:29    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
4th Gen (Haswell) high-end CPU's are notoriously hot due to Intel fudging up the TIM-bond between silicon and lid making it difficult to cool no matter what since the CPU silicon doesn't have good contact with the lid (hence the reason many many overclockers delidding their CPU's, reapplying TIM and either put a cooler straight on the silicon (ultimate heat transfer but also ultimate risk of crushing/killing CPU) or reattach the lid (second best solution). I've seen the horrible results from some i7 4770K's with cracks, crushed etc. either due to heatsink-pressure on the CPU being too high or because the silicon expands from the heat and crushes itself.

Apparently the new upcoming Haswell-E K-series have fixed this issue.

A tip would be to get a Corsair H100i (watercooler) or similar. I don't know how the 212 Evo compares to high-end closed-loop watercoolers with good static pressure fans though. But as I said before, a lot of CPU-heat won't reach the cooling lid and thus you're cooling the lid a lot but not so much the CPU (without delidding and fixing the TIM-issue).


Thanks for taking the time to type all that. However i knew the issues the haswell series has i was simply wondering if those temps are ok-ish for the "cheapish" cooler i installed on it.

Also how far i could push it if i were to OC in the future Razz
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PostPosted: Tue, 27th May 2014 09:39    Post subject:
I thought that intel are a bit more sensitive to high heat, compared to AMDs. 70°C during some gaming sounds a bit high for a CPU, especially if you plan to OC later? :/


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russ80




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PostPosted: Tue, 27th May 2014 09:56    Post subject:
Well from what i'm reading it doesn't seem to be that high, might not be able to OC that far tho. If 4790k comes out in max 1 month i can just replace it for that instead .. but was running out of patience for a cpu upgrade so i just went for it Razz

If not, i might just get a Corsair Hydro H100i in the future when i actually need the OC.


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