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 Posted: Fri, 7th Mar 2014 09:16 Post subject: Telescammers |
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Does anyone else get these?
I've had maybe half a dozen now, they go like this: They act as ISP representatives and inform you that your PC is 'being hacked'... they will 'shut down the internet' to your house if you don't go to your PC and do what they say. They basically tell you to allow remote assistance before doing who knows what.
The first few times they called I told them to piss off. Then I told them to go ahead, disconnect my internet, they hung up. Just now another call and I had them going for around 5 minutes before telling them I had a Mac, at which point they said they'd send a technician around (they knew the address). They got my wife's mother one time but I intercepted it.
How are you supposed to get rid of these morons?
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Mar 2014 09:28 Post subject: |
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ask your telephone company to trace the number, then file a suit.
i dont know about the law in australia, but it could help to record them the next time they call/ if they call again.
in germany this would not be admissible in court, since the other person has to explicitly give their consent to being recorded, but maybe in australia there is no law like that.
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Saner
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Mar 2014 09:31 Post subject: |
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I just let them get all confused when I tell them I dont have a start button, after about 15 minutes they usually either work out that I dont rn Windows or they just give up and hang up.
See I lead an exciting life.
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I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ? |
Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Mar 2014 09:34 Post subject: |
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just give them remote access for a bit and open this: http://www.meatspin.cc/
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JBeckman
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Mar 2014 11:00 Post subject: |
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I get the occasional marketing call, usually asking about how I should choose that electricity or telephone company over the existing one but other than that I've not had any direct scam calls.
I do get a ton of emails from everything about Facebook, Blizzard, some African rich millionaire or Australian bank company but those just get deleted.
(If the mail is serious it would be either written in Swedish or it would be from a trusted address or a address I know, usually both.)
EDIT: I'm glad they stopped sending stuff like "vaigra" and other suspicious product advertisement though.
(Those were pretty common some years ago, now it's money instead of potency I guess scamming has trends too.)
I do feel a bit sorry for those with less understanding about this (Often elderly people.) but that trick has been going on for years from door to door salesmen to telephone calls and now e-mails.
(And probably social stuff like say Facebook or Google+ but I don't use that.)
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Mar 2014 11:27 Post subject: |
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Had this here in UK a fair bit, they were always indian, and at times got pretty hostile, one even went as far as saying my pc was causing great harm to others and could be me in a financial loss due to my pc being the machine robbing them of money.
I just get really abusive and lol and shit. Its kinda amusing to me but to some poor nub that don't know right from wrong in this stuff could get stung I guess ;D
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Neon
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Mar 2014 13:22 Post subject: |
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Tell them you're a lawyer and if they call one more time you're going to sue them.
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Mar 2014 13:49 Post subject: |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whistle
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Mar 2014 14:41 Post subject: |
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Last edited by Interinactive on Tue, 5th Oct 2021 02:25; edited 1 time in total
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Mar 2014 16:32 Post subject: |
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Bwahaahahahahahahaha xD
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ixigia
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Mar 2014 22:32 Post subject: |
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We use to receive at least one scummy phonescam per day here (father has a small agency and I help him), but none of them went this far with the idiocy 
Lots of them are just people trying to sell us the most improbable stuff, or clumsily wanting us to get tricked by silly ploys, with false banks, services, you name it  
I usually tell them to fuck themselves in the butt and the conversation ends there with both the parties being satisfied xD
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Mar 2014 22:40 Post subject: |
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In germany if you get an unwanted phone call and you tell them to not call you again, then they have to comply. Or else the fines start at 50.000€ if they call you a second time. Any citizen can call the Bundesnetzagentur (Federal Network Agency) and file a complaint, it should be that easy
And even if you are a customer of a company, they need your consent to call you for advertisement purposes, else they'll have to pay the fine too.
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Mar 2014 23:07 Post subject: |
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Sheesh, try to help a guy and get burned on a forum. Okay, I won't call you bastards again.
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ixigia
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Mar 2014 00:05 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | | Sheesh, try to help a guy and get burned on a forum. Okay, I won't call you bastards again. |
You know that you can call us anytime..we're your virtual ibnes. I would recognize your soothing soft manly voice and classy squeaky noises in a heart beat   |
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Mar 2014 00:20 Post subject: Re: Telescammers |
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| Interinactive wrote: | Does anyone else get these?
I've had maybe half a dozen now, they go like this: They act as ISP representatives and inform you that your PC is 'being hacked'... they will 'shut down the internet' to your house if you don't go to your PC and do what they say. They basically tell you to allow remote assistance before doing who knows what.
The first few times they called I told them to piss off. Then I told them to go ahead, disconnect my internet, they hung up. Just now another call and I had them going for around 5 minutes before telling them I had a Mac, at which point they said they'd send a technician around (they knew the address). They got my wife's mother one time but I intercepted it.
How are you supposed to get rid of these morons? |
Tell them that you're going to comply and then give them some random address and keep yelling at them not to turn off your internet because you need to look at your youtube cats. |
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| Posted: Mon, 24th Mar 2014 14:10 Post subject: |
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I've had them too. I tell them I don't have a computer in the house.
They got an older woman I now. She fell for it. They were calling her a stupid bitch in the end when she was questioning them. They got downright nasty when they realized they had a vulnerable person who knew something was up. They did get remote access but I don't think anything happened.
I wish I had some leet hacking skills so I could blow up their whole network, bunch of scammers.
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| Posted: Mon, 24th Mar 2014 14:58 Post subject: |
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| PumpAction wrote: | In germany if you get an unwanted phone call and you tell them to not call you again, then they have to comply. Or else the fines start at 50.000€ if they call you a second time. Any citizen can call the Bundesnetzagentur (Federal Network Agency) and file a complaint, it should be that easy
And even if you are a customer of a company, they need your consent to call you for advertisement purposes, else they'll have to pay the fine too. |
But you have video game censorship, and not sure about torrenting
| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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| Posted: Mon, 24th Mar 2014 15:57 Post subject: |
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Torrenting the wrong torrent = immediate financial butseks.
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Saner
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| Posted: Mon, 24th Mar 2014 16:06 Post subject: |
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how does the german idea work with out of country calls ?
In the UK we have TPS and if you are on that companies are not aloud to cold call you.
How we we still get countless calls from 'Tmobile' (for example) with a thick indian accent and from (one presumes) India. If you report them you are just told, "They out out of country and therefore out of our reach" (the fact they are selling contracts for a UK company seems to escape them)
So I am just curious how does Germany handle out of country calls ?
| ragnarus wrote: |
I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ? |
Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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| Posted: Mon, 24th Mar 2014 16:08 Post subject: |
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can't you barr all incoming international calls on your home phone?
are we talking about GSM or land line? do you still use land lines? I discontinued mine maybe ten years ago..
| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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Saner
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| Posted: Mon, 24th Mar 2014 16:11 Post subject: |
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yeah I have all withheld numbers blocked, so generally I dont get them unless they spoof they caller-ID or use VOIP, I can bar international calls completely as I have relatives abroad.
But I really hate the idea of paying for a landline and having to block incoming calls, it just grates.
But anyway I was just curious how Germany deals with the issue (if it is even an issue with English not being the native language I suppose)
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I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ? |
Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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| Posted: Mon, 24th Mar 2014 17:00 Post subject: |
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Your phone company has their own blacklist service, not just your home phone unit. And hiding the caller ID doesn't help then.
You can ban all calls from India.. unless your relatives are from there
| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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Saner
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| Posted: Mon, 24th Mar 2014 17:05 Post subject: |
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I was just curious how it is handled in Germany.
Jesus fucking christ, you know more about my phone provider than they do, and for what its worth no my phone provider won't do per country blocks.
| ragnarus wrote: |
I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ? |
Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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| Posted: Fri, 28th Mar 2014 10:13 Post subject: |
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| PumpAction wrote: | In germany if you get an unwanted phone call and you tell them to not call you again, then they have to comply. Or else the fines start at 50.000€ if they call you a second time. Any citizen can call the Bundesnetzagentur (Federal Network Agency) and file a complaint, it should be that easy
And even if you are a customer of a company, they need your consent to call you for advertisement purposes, else they'll have to pay the fine too. |
And how exactly is Germany gonna enforce a fine in India or DukhaDukha Land? |
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| Posted: Fri, 28th Mar 2014 10:31 Post subject: |
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Never got a call from outside of germany for telemarketing scam and am not sure how they'd handle this.
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| Posted: Sat, 29th Mar 2014 19:13 Post subject: |
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Those Indian retards called saying they work for Microsoft...
I answered the phone and just said "This is John at the FBI headquarters in Sweden, how may I help you" and I heard just a click on the other end... LOL
Next time the called I just said "This is John at Microsoft IT support how may we be of service" it confused the shit out of them...
But the retards still call...
They fucking want it badly and brutally hard up the ass...
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