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Frant
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| Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2013 14:51 Post subject: |
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I tend to avoid Adata whether it's RAM, SSD's or anything by Adata.
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
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| Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2013 15:04 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2013 15:38 Post subject: |
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Please, Don't forget PLEXTOR m5s series !
Its one of most reliable, fastest ssd for its low price.
Couple of months ago I've did a very detailed search and got a Plextor 128gb m5s. Fantastic drive, to say at least.
avoid ocz, adata and other crap.
Samsung is good
crucial isnt bad but not fast as plextor and samsung
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iNs
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| Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2013 19:38 Post subject: |
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840evo is undeniably a better disk than the adata in this topic, so that would be definitely the one to go for.
@killercrocker, both plextor and crucial are based on marvell, a reliable controller indeed but those two dont really differ in performance, they're actually pretty similar
the difference between a crucial/plextor and evo series, beside the obvious - controllers, would be also the nands, which in case of the first ones is MLC 2bit and the latter TLC 3bit.
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Frant
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| Posted: Thu, 5th Dec 2013 23:20 Post subject: |
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| KillerCrocker wrote: | | avoid ocz, adata and other crap. |
If someone is sitting on a OCZ Vertex 4 120GB and want to get rid of for cheapo casho I'd go for a RAID0 setup.
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| Posted: Fri, 6th Dec 2013 00:12 Post subject: |
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sammy period, doesn't even matter which one
i've installed like 100 of them if not more, not a single one came back defective
the only product from samsung i like, rest is pretty much junko, especially their overpriced crappy touchwiz infested mobile devices
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iNs
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Stige
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| Posted: Fri, 6th Dec 2013 13:49 Post subject: |
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Samsung 840 EVO
No real question at all.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Jan 2014 01:45 Post subject: |
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I read that the 840 Pro should last a lot longer than 840 Evo (as well as the additional performance, but that's less important). Anyone has an opinion between these two?
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Werelds
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Jan 2014 02:04 Post subject: |
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In theory that is correct, yes. Because it uses TLC NAND instead of MLC. In reality though you'll still easily get 5+ years out of the NAND cycles even at extremely heavy usage. I suggest you read Anand's review and what some users on various forums (OC, OCC, XS) got out of their older SSDs; you'll see that all the SSD lifespan scares are hugely exaggerated. Something else will give up the ghost before the NAND will.
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Stige
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Jan 2014 02:21 Post subject: |
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| Werelds wrote: | | In theory that is correct, yes. Because it uses TLC NAND instead of MLC. In reality though you'll still easily get 5+ years out of the NAND cycles even at extremely heavy usage. I suggest you read Anand's review and what some users on various forums (OC, OCC, XS) got out of their older SSDs; you'll see that all the SSD lifespan scares are hugely exaggerated. Something else will give up the ghost before the NAND will. |
This man is correct.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sat, 4th Jan 2014 00:14 Post subject: |
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SSD is night and day compared to "shit" "old" 7200RPM Caviar Black. 
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Werelds
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| Posted: Sat, 4th Jan 2014 00:16 Post subject: |
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SSD is night and day to <insert any mechanical drive, 10000 RPM SCSI included, even in RAID-0> 
Which one did you get Leo?
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sat, 4th Jan 2014 00:25 Post subject: |
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840 Pro
The difference between the 840 Pro 256GB and 840 Evo 250GB was insignificant in the local store, so I said fuck it.
Man what a bitch it is to deal with dynamic GPT disks and their fucking volumes. Nothing free supports them. But after 2 days hard work, finally moved my old drive to the SSD and the only thing it seems that bothered Windows was the need for another activation.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sat, 4th Jan 2014 00:28 Post subject: |
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The most difficult process was to find a spot in the box where that damn little thing would not move. Finally, made a gangsta ghetto case using the plastic box it came with. If fits the HDD tray nicely.
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Sin317
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| Posted: Sat, 4th Jan 2014 00:59 Post subject: |
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not move ? lol. Mine is hanging in midair, because the cable holds it up. It's not like the thing is moving or anything hehe.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sat, 4th Jan 2014 02:14 Post subject: |
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True, but I wanted some security if I move the case and forget to take it out before. Now it's not moving at all and quite secure. 
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iNs
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| Posted: Sat, 4th Jan 2014 04:16 Post subject: |
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Sin317
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| Posted: Sun, 5th Jan 2014 06:35 Post subject: |
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never ever turn off page file. As useless as it may seem with the amount of ram we have today, windows and a lot of apps still use it. So set it to something like 1gb or something like that.
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| Posted: Sun, 5th Jan 2014 12:18 Post subject: |
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Everyone seems to have his own mind on this
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| Posted: Sun, 5th Jan 2014 12:24 Post subject: |
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| Frant wrote: | | I tend to avoid Adata whether it's RAM, SSD's or anything by Adata. |
I had 4GB DDR2 RAM by Adata once and it worked pretty well over the years. It was simply the cheapest at the time. But somehow I dont trust them either.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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Werelds
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| Posted: Sun, 5th Jan 2014 12:47 Post subject: |
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| KillerCrocker wrote: | | Everyone seems to have his own mind on this |
No, only the clueless people do.
People turn it off to save writes on the SSD, which is pointless since the pagefile won't shorten the SSD's lifespan by much at all.
Turning off the page file however is risky. In general it'll be safe, but IF you run into a situation where you would've needed it, you're fucked. There's absolutely no point in turning it off, other than adding a risk factor to your system.
As for your scores: I didn't even look at the image, but yes, they're fine. Stop benchmarking. Benchmarking even once shortens the lifespan of the damn thing more than a pagefile ever will. The actual scores are irrelevant, you won't notice the difference between 300 or 500 MB/s sequential reads. The only stat that could be remotely interesting are random reads, but even there with any SSD you run into bottlenecks in other places than the SSD. |
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| Posted: Sun, 5th Jan 2014 13:09 Post subject: |
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Yeah, it makes me laugh to see people turning the page file off to save on drive life and then see them post test after test. Those tests push around a huge amount of data on the drive.
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Werelds
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| Posted: Sun, 5th Jan 2014 13:16 Post subject: |
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The only situation where I'd potentially turn the page file off is on a small SSD (<=60GB) in a system with lots of RAM (>=16GB); although I'd more likely still just shrink the pagefile to its minimum instead (as I did on my HTPC).
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