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Morphineus
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| Vikerness wrote: | | Prefetian wrote: | | So are you saying that they are wrong and you didn't retrieve your sold account? |
At least someone bothered to ask before vomiting all over the thread with his moral heroism |
"If the word "magically" means what I think it means you are a fucking scammer. I hate people who sell their stuff and steal it back, and then even boast about it on the internet. If it meant something else I apologize."
Guess your reading comprehension needs an upgrade. It has: an 'if', his view if it were true and an apologize if it wasn't true. |
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Sep 2013 17:03 Post subject: |
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Well, until that guy answers it can go either way...
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Sep 2013 17:06 Post subject: |
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| Prefetian wrote: | | Well, until that guy answers it can go either way... |
Let's start a betting pool!  |
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sausje
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Sep 2013 17:17 Post subject: |
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Well i did the same with my battle.net account.
BUT only because i knew that it was only used for the D3 beta back then, just catching dust from that moment on.
When i found that out, it was less harsh on my conscience making the decision to take it back via support.
What i did was wrong, i had massive regrets having to sell my WoW (and SC2) account with the D3 beta for someone that was just interested in using the account to rent it out towards other people. I needed money back then, badly, and i wouldn't had done the same if that wasn't the case.
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Sep 2013 17:20 Post subject: |
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Sausje 
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Sep 2013 19:55 Post subject: |
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| MORPHINEUS wrote: | | It has: an 'if', his view if it were true and an apologize if it wasn't true. |
That wasnt my point Dexter, this was:People trying to mimick a conscience while brawling others for not doing the same.. its hilarious
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russ80
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Sep 2013 22:04 Post subject: |
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Why would you come on here to ask about D3 builds? You'd get a lot more results from the D3 forums. Most of us have more fun bashing Blizzard now. And have you guys seen the loot for console? Someone already has a 1600+ DPS 1h weapon lol. It just came out and people on YouTube have BiS items that maybe 1 in a billion have on PC. Man, what a slap in the face to PC gamers. I blame Bobby Kocklick myself. Most point the finger a Gay Jay Wilson, but he's likely just a pawn in this game of chess.
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russ80
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Sep 2013 22:48 Post subject: |
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| Vulgarr wrote: | | Why would you come on here to ask about D3 builds? You'd get a lot more results from the D3 forums. Most of us have more fun bashing Blizzard now. And have you guys seen the loot for console? Someone already has a 1600+ DPS 1h weapon lol. It just came out and people on YouTube have BiS items that maybe 1 in a billion have on PC. Man, what a slap in the face to PC gamers. I blame Bobby Kocklick myself. Most point the finger a Gay Jay Wilson, but he's likely just a pawn in this game of chess. |
You do realize the 2 versions are separate entities that will never interact with eachother right?
That's like saying... someone playing the pirated version hacked his char with max stats and 2000e+ items in every slot.
It's irrelevant.
Game on console was designed for a 10h~ playthrough like most console games. You get the loot = no reason to play anymore.
If that's what you want, then by all means go ahead and play it on the console.
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Sin317
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Sep 2013 22:50 Post subject: |
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And you can't trade or sell your items, so it matters even less.
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Sep 2013 23:26 Post subject: |
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| russ80 wrote: | | remyleblau wrote: | i wont bother with explaining it because i dont really care what u think, anyway that mentality is always funny - "fuck you you fucking scammer hope u die, but if you arent scammer then sorry" - rotfl 
i was asking about builds and obviously bunch of fags who basically live and breathe on this forum (you know who i`m talking about) came here because they just couldnt resist posting in every thread boosting their postcount like their life depends on it, even if they have nothing to say. oh wel, internetz.
even if i would scam someone - why the fuck do you care lol, if i`d care about every wow/sc2/d3/whatever scammer, gold bots etc etc i would be walking with grey hair already.
anyway, 1-2 people actually bothered to think for a second instead of jumping on the bandwagon, thats something  |
Oh look .. a douche. Enjoy your ban. |
One of the few things I can agree with Russ about. |
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Sep 2013 23:28 Post subject: |
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| Sin317 wrote: | | And you can't trade or sell your items, so it matters even less. |
You can still trade with your co-op partners, there's just no central AH for mass trading/selling/buying.
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Przepraszam
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Sep 2013 23:46 Post subject: |
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Looks like patch 2.0 won't come out until next year.
| Quote: | | Additionally, just to make sure there isn't any confusion, we're not looking at releasing our itemization update for PC (a.k.a Loot 2.0) until the pre-expansion patch at the earliest. |
Since RoS won't come out until sometime during 2014, will be stuck with current piece of shit for at least few more months. So fucking pathetic.
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Sep 2013 23:48 Post subject: |
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| Przepraszam wrote: | | So fucking pathetic. |
That's all it has been since launch, I'm afraid; pathetic. Once bitten, twice shy, as they say... Blizzard won't get me again that's for damned sure. Ever again. I'll pirate the shit out of the PS3 version of D3 and then I'll pirate the expansion too.
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| Posted: Thu, 5th Sep 2013 01:50 Post subject: |
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| russ80 wrote: | | Vulgarr wrote: | | Why would you come on here to ask about D3 builds? You'd get a lot more results from the D3 forums. Most of us have more fun bashing Blizzard now. And have you guys seen the loot for console? Someone already has a 1600+ DPS 1h weapon lol. It just came out and people on YouTube have BiS items that maybe 1 in a billion have on PC. Man, what a slap in the face to PC gamers. I blame Bobby Kocklick myself. Most point the finger a Gay Jay Wilson, but he's likely just a pawn in this game of chess. |
You do realize the 2 versions are separate entities that will never interact with eachother right?
That's like saying... someone playing the pirated version hacked his char with max stats and 2000e+ items in every slot.
It's irrelevant.
Game on console was designed for a 10h~ playthrough like most console games. You get the loot = no reason to play anymore.
If that's what you want, then by all means go ahead and play it on the console. |
Oh. I completely understand how it works. I've been in the IT business for 15 years and gaming for 35. I'm just saying that look how good the loot is in the console version and it's just another slap in the face to PC gamers everywhere. Basically, the console is the game that we PC gamers should have gotten. We got a game where even a decent item is like 1,000 or more.. items like we are seeing on the console are like 1 in a friggin billion. The bottom line is they got a game that's designed to be fun, we PC players got a game that was designed to fatten Bobby Kocklicks pockets.
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MAD_MAX333
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| Posted: Thu, 5th Sep 2013 04:55 Post subject: |
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remyleblau perhapse you want to watch your tone and read the forum rules bud.
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russ80
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| Posted: Thu, 5th Sep 2013 05:43 Post subject: |
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| Vulgarr wrote: | | russ80 wrote: | | Vulgarr wrote: | | Why would you come on here to ask about D3 builds? You'd get a lot more results from the D3 forums. Most of us have more fun bashing Blizzard now. And have you guys seen the loot for console? Someone already has a 1600+ DPS 1h weapon lol. It just came out and people on YouTube have BiS items that maybe 1 in a billion have on PC. Man, what a slap in the face to PC gamers. I blame Bobby Kocklick myself. Most point the finger a Gay Jay Wilson, but he's likely just a pawn in this game of chess. |
You do realize the 2 versions are separate entities that will never interact with eachother right?
That's like saying... someone playing the pirated version hacked his char with max stats and 2000e+ items in every slot.
It's irrelevant.
Game on console was designed for a 10h~ playthrough like most console games. You get the loot = no reason to play anymore.
If that's what you want, then by all means go ahead and play it on the console. |
Oh. I completely understand how it works. I've been in the IT business for 15 years and gaming for 35. I'm just saying that look how good the loot is in the console version and it's just another slap in the face to PC gamers everywhere. Basically, the console is the game that we PC gamers should have gotten. We got a game where even a decent item is like 1,000 or more.. items like we are seeing on the console are like 1 in a friggin billion. The bottom line is they got a game that's designed to be fun, we PC players got a game that was designed to fatten Bobby Kocklicks pockets. |
What makes the console loot good again?
Consoles - got loot 1.5 which won't be coming to pc (just a part of loot 2.0) that allows legendaries to roll at max level, and they get higher numbers/better drop rates
PC - will get 2.0 which will make legendaries roll at max level, won't be getting the insane numbers the console version is, lower drop rates than console but also the new improved legendaries that are supposed to be build changers, and make you move away from stacking dps everywhere.
Also many other features that are coming in 2.0 (free patch before ROS) like nephalem trials/loot runs/paragon 2.0 etc.
I really don't see how you can think the console version "Got better loot" unless you're easily impressed by bigger numbers and don't take everything else into perspective.
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| Posted: Thu, 5th Sep 2013 06:17 Post subject: |
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| russ80 wrote: | | Vulgarr wrote: | | russ80 wrote: |
You do realize the 2 versions are separate entities that will never interact with eachother right?
That's like saying... someone playing the pirated version hacked his char with max stats and 2000e+ items in every slot.
It's irrelevant.
Game on console was designed for a 10h~ playthrough like most console games. You get the loot = no reason to play anymore.
If that's what you want, then by all means go ahead and play it on the console. |
Oh. I completely understand how it works. I've been in the IT business for 15 years and gaming for 35. I'm just saying that look how good the loot is in the console version and it's just another slap in the face to PC gamers everywhere. Basically, the console is the game that we PC gamers should have gotten. We got a game where even a decent item is like 1,000 or more.. items like we are seeing on the console are like 1 in a friggin billion. The bottom line is they got a game that's designed to be fun, we PC players got a game that was designed to fatten Bobby Kocklicks pockets. |
What makes the console loot good again?
Consoles - got loot 1.5 which won't be coming to pc (just a part of loot 2.0) that allows legendaries to roll at max level, and they get higher numbers/better drop rates
PC - will get 2.0 which will make legendaries roll at max level, won't be getting the insane numbers the console version is, lower drop rates than console but also the new improved legendaries that are supposed to be build changers, and make you move away from stacking dps everywhere.
Also many other features that are coming in 2.0 (free patch before ROS) like nephalem trials/loot runs/paragon 2.0 etc.
I really don't see how you can think the console version "Got better loot" unless you're easily impressed by bigger numbers and don't take everything else into perspective. |
Look. We could debate this forever. I guess what I'm trying to say is that, IMO, Blizzard created D3 for the PC as nothing but a money grab. I agree with you about the loot being over the top on console. I mean, if I had BiS items the first week, then what would be the point of playing right? But the bottom line is that they find loot that is useful and quality. I think in the 250 hours I spent, I found one item that was worth maybe 10 mil. D3 on the PC was all about playing the auction house. On console, it's about playing the game. Now granted, there is little sense of "accomplishment" I guess, as you basically get all the best gear with little to no effort.
But the PC and the RMAH was just a way to rake in microtransactions. If you don't agree with that, then you aren't paying attention to how Activision works. I will admit that Loot 2.0 and the other features, such as Nephalim Trials, Loot Runs and whatever else "end game" shit they have sounds intriguing and all, but this content should have already been out. Instead, they say fuck the PC gamers, put them on the back burner, while they make the console version, give them everything that PC gamers pretty much wanted, in particular, the whole "self found" talk that you see all over the D3 forums.
The bottom line is that PC gamers made Blizzard who they are, and still to this day, thanks to the billions they've made off of WoW, yet we are second class citizens at best to them. I just find it quite insulting and pathetic that they have such poor leadership.
I just feel sorry for the suckers that have spent thousands of hours, or the dumb asses that spend thousands of dollars to get these virtual items, all in the name of running the same 4 fucking acts, over and over and over, for what? There is no end game, there hasn't been an end game and a true end game is still months and months away. Add in the new lvl 70 level cap (which is basically a "soft reset" if you will), which is good for the game and will draw players back, but it still doesn't change the fact that PC gamers got shit on, plain and simple. All this lvl 60 gear will now be obsolete. Maybe it's live and learn and do better next time, but the whole game was delayed so they could get their precious Battle.net infrastructure completed in a way that best allowed them to work microtransactions and make as much money as they could. The whole online only being the way the "game was designed" is nothing but bogus lies. It was just DRM.
Anyways, enough of the silly banter. It's pointless and I've no interest in going further in to it. You have stated the new features that are coming, which is correct, but I'm stating that this content should have been here long ago. I just think it's too bad that PC gamers were given the shaft and exploited using the RMAH and garbage loot roles to fatten the already overflowing execs and CEO's wallets.
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russ80
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| Posted: Thu, 5th Sep 2013 06:58 Post subject: |
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Like i said before, i don't really care about how the RMAH may have affected the game or not, considering how much money i've made off it.
And on top of that, i get to enjoy a great ARPG.
But yeah everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
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Sin317
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JackQ
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| Posted: Thu, 5th Sep 2013 08:11 Post subject: |
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seems like on consoles,the trading system is a bit clumsy
ironically,Action House it actually the better and safer option,and like russ80 said. the value of the items lots less signify,because of the all glitch abuse on items and gold
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| Posted: Thu, 5th Sep 2013 08:28 Post subject: |
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On console, it's about playing the game. Now granted, there is little sense of "accomplishment" I guess, as you basically get all the best gear with little to no effort.
so they pay like a pc gamer, but they dont have any feeling of accomplishments, all beign served on a silver plate because of insane loot, and hacked chars, they dont have any replay value, because whats the point of, basically they finish the game and trow it away.
i read something about people which are complaining that they cannot switch to mp10 on console at level 10, and answer like, just play a bit more and you will be able to.
i was thinking that is insane. even with bis, you can still have issues on pc at level 60 mp 10.
from my pov after what i read, console version is a shit version. and is a bit sad if this is what console crowd want.
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Sin317
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| Posted: Thu, 5th Sep 2013 09:33 Post subject: |
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i thought MP5 was highest you can select on console ?
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| Posted: Thu, 5th Sep 2013 09:42 Post subject: |
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yeh, master 5 on console, should be equal with mp10 for pc.
i may be mistaking about that, i played mp 10 on inferno mode mainly at level 60. (with another wd)
still, i think i played a bit on mp 10 on a normal playground just to see how it was, and was a kite fest with nearly unkillable mobs.
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| Posted: Thu, 5th Sep 2013 09:57 Post subject: |
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you got 8 difficulties on console. easy,medium,hard and master 1-5. it has its very own scaling /mobdensity i havent had the chance to try out master yet. medium feels like mp2, hard feels like mp3. and gonna have to get some better gear before hitting master
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| Posted: Thu, 5th Sep 2013 15:07 Post subject: |
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The problem with D3 is that there is no true end game. After running each act on 3 difficulties to get to 60, all you do is run the same 4 acts over and over to get gear. So you spend hundreds of hours, kill thousands and thousands of elites, just to get gear to keep doing the same thing all over. I mean, the levels weren't even truly random like in D2 or other ARPG's such as TL2. If the PC had better loot, maybe not god mode console BiS first day derp shit, but something along the lines of the Loot 2.0 they are coming up with, but had put more focus in to making interesting items, and random dungeons or an endless dungeon like TL had, they'd not have lost 11 out of 12 million or whatever number of players it is.
That's the problem I have with not only D3, but many other new games. They are designed for the ADD/ADHD console kiddies who have about a 10 hour attention span before they move on to another game. Despite the obvious issues with cost, I think this is one reason I end up getting in to a lot of F2P games. Right now, the games I'm most interested are Marvel Heroes (much improved since release, David Brevick is awesome.. if only he'd been lead design on D3), Infinite Crisis and Hawken, all F2P. The thing about F2P is they HAVE to keep putting out new content or people won't play them. Looking forward to the future, there are a few games that I'm looking forward too, esp. Titanfall and GTA V, maybe Watch Dogs and a few others, but most just look to be the same old shit we've been playing for years.
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from my part, they destroyed marvel heroes with the last experience "tweak" i may play after 1.2 or not. i shall see. anyway, at least in mh, itemization is great.
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